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jwb wrote:

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I don't see how the marrotes could have a good view if she was as far down as the blue ribbon. As I mentioned before the marrottes said they saw Maura backing her car -they saw her back lites etc.. there is a ditch in the area of the tree that would suck a car in. my theory is Maura first stopped at the Blue ribbon area nad then backed out of there toward the marrottes to get out of the ditch.
The ditch stops 30- 50 yrds up from the BL ribb Tree. I parked there to replace the poster and then noticed the ditch near the BL ribb tree.

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Shack wrote:

I know nothing at all about....

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...but, if SBD saw that the air bag go off...wouldn't that mean she couldn't restart the car?

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jwb wrote:

Happy Fathers day to all Dads! Enjoy!

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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jwb,
Some interesting points there.
So, going with your theory Mr & Mrs W-n across the WB must have been observing the red/orange glow inside Maura´s car while the Saturn was stuck at the approximate location of the blue ribbon tree.
Does the timing of the observation of the red/orange glow by Mr & Mrs W-n correspond with what would be feasible before the Saturn was likely reversed to a point closer to M-tte and SBD residences?
Also: If this is what actually happened - and I agree it´s a distinct possibility - why then didn´t Maura just turn the car around and continue on her way, presumably east on Rte 112?
If Maura was indeed able to reverse the car, it would at least seem likely that the car pretty likely was driveable and probably just not in reverse.
So, if we make that presumption, why didn´t Maura just continue driving in order to get out of her rather precarious position with LE arriving at any moment?
Was she somehow able to reverse the car but somehow incapacitated enough not to be able to turn the car around and go east on 112 or up BHR?
Or didn´t she for some reason had time enough to do so once she had backed up as far as the M-tte residence?
Opinions, please!

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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jwb,
Some interesting points there.
So, going with your theory Mr & Mrs W-n across the WB must have been observing the red/orange glow inside Maura´s car while the Saturn was stuck at the approximate location of the blue ribbon tree.
Does the timing of the observation of the red/orange glow by Mr & Mrs W-n correspond with what would be feasible before the Saturn was likely reversed to a point closer to M-tte and SBD residences?
Also: If this is what actually happened - and I agree it´s a distinct possibility - why then didn´t Maura just turn the car around and continue on her way, presumably east on Rte 112?
If Maura was indeed able to reverse the car, it would at least seem likely that the car pretty likely was driveable and probably just not in reverse.
So, if we make that presumption, why didn´t Maura just continue driving in order to get out of her rather precarious position with LE arriving at any moment?
Was she somehow able to reverse the car but somehow incapacitated enough not to be able to turn the car around and go east on 112 or up BHR?
Or didn´t she for some reason had time enough to do so once she had backed up as far as the M-tte residence?
Opinions, please!

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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jwb,
Some interesting points there.
So, going with your theory Mr & Mrs W-n across the WB must have been observing the red/orange glow inside Maura´s car while the Saturn was stuck at the approximate location of the blue ribbon tree.
Does the timing of the observation of the red/orange glow by Mr & Mrs W-n correspond with what would be feasible before the Saturn was likely reversed to a point closer to M-tte and SBD residences?
Also: If this is what actually happened - and I agree it´s a distinct possibility - why then didn´t Maura just turn the car around and continue on her way, presumably east on Rte 112?
If Maura was indeed able to reverse the car, it would at least seem likely that the car pretty likely was driveable and probably just not in reverse.
So, if we make that presumption, why didn´t Maura just continue driving in order to get out of her rather precarious position with LE arriving at any moment?
Was she somehow able to reverse the car but somehow incapacitated enough not to be able to turn the car around and go east on 112 or up BHR?
Or didn´t she for some reason had time enough to do so once she had backed up as far as the M-tte residence?
Opinions, please!

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mcsmom wrote:

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Maybe after the airbag deployment, or other front end damage prevented the gear selector from shifting into the drive position, since the car was found in neutral, this is a possibility IMO.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Didn't we cover this ad-nauseaum years ago? Thought I remembered something about this and I could swear that you were there? Or is this just a ploy so this subject doesn't fall of the edge of the Topix cliff?
Whoooosh, whooosh, whoooosh.
Bill

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mcsmom wrote:

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First 911 call by FW describes a vehicle in the ditch, right on sharp turn after the WB, was eastbound on Rt 112 but ended up in westbound ditch facing westbound.
FW has lived there for quite some time, so I find it hard to think she would have gotten her east- west directions wrong.
I wonder what made her so sure the car was eastbound initially. If she didn't witness the actual crash, and just happened to see a car ditched facing west in a west bound lane, one would think the car just slid off the road.
She furthermore only describes what she hears, an acceleration and a thud.
Something visual about the accident must have led her to say "was eastbound".
And close enough to the window that she was looking out from to describe a man smoking a cigarette.
If she continued to watch she would have witnessed the car backing up also, since she states she was watching until SBD arrived, and he describes the car in a different location.
SBD describes seeing the crash, so perhaps he witnessed the car backing up from the westbound lane to the eastbound lane, or part two of two locations.

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Shack wrote:

AND, just another thought..her car wasn't found on the Wild Ammonoosuc River side of road..was it..?

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Linconite wrote:

<quoted text>I thought he came upon the car right after it crashed and offered help.
Also did't Mr W. disagree with what his wife thought she saw?

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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SBD didn't see the crash.
And there was definite disagreement between the two of them on what they saw regarding, the "smoking man".
Bill