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i'm not trying to steer anyone, anywhere. i am commenting on what i've observed and read on these topix threads.
to answer your last question, NO ONE KNOWS the whereabouts of MM. it's that simple.
that you may pretend to know, as you do, is not supported by facts.
personal attacks were originated by The Ducks under The Big top at The Circus. blame them.
consistency of name and location lend credibility and integrity to the conversation.
any other question?
Not when you have no control over where topix says you are from, I cannot control the fact that it says I am in CT, and I am in VT. It has no way in my profile to change that. I never pretended to know where MM is or anything even remotely close to that, all I have been stating is that quite a few people in Woodsville are pointing the finger at a specific individua, and when there is more than just a few doing so I tend to believe it. Like I said previously to you I hope I'm wrong because my kids know him and are friends with his son. And yes both you and WTF (Bill) have done nothing but attack people on here on a regular basis I might add. Just because it says you're from Gloucester, MA doesn't mean you are anymore credible than anyone else on here.

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that's hearsay, unless these individuals were eye witnesses or participants.
Yes I know this, as I stated in a previous post. I think I am just wording it wrong on my end.

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Come to confession Bill. Do I have to ask Jesus to reveal your IP number?
Oh Boy reveal my IP number loser!!! I really don't give a shit, and while your at it go take a flying F%#@!!!!
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Not when you have no control over where topix says you are from, I cannot control the fact that it says I am in CT, and I am in VT. It has no way in my profile to change that. I never pretended to know where MM is or anything even remotely close to that, all I have been stating is that quite a few people in Woodsville are pointing the finger at a specific individua, and when there is more than just a few doing so I tend to believe it. Like I said previously to you I hope I'm wrong because my kids know him and are friends with his son. And yes both you and WTF (Bill) have done nothing but attack people on here on a regular basis I might add. Just because it says you're from Gloucester, MA doesn't mean you are anymore credible than anyone else on here.
don't worry about it. location is the least of your problems in terms of credibility.
remember, i am a skeptic.
uhhh, you have 'pretended' to know MM is located in a concrete slab.
so, finger pointing and accusations by "more than just a few" against "a specific individual' is justified? absolutely not.
"do unto others...."
i seriously doubt your kids will be friends with his son for much longer, as you've clearly identified yourself by the personal information you've revealed.
yes, i am consistently from Gloucester, and my writing consistently reflects my point of view.

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Stephen wrote:
Come to confession Bill. Do I have to ask Jesus to reveal your IP number?
Jesus? HA!!! The bible is the largest non-fiction book ever written. I mean what the hell everything written in it is all hearsay!!!
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If you're heading there tomorrow maybe you could take a ride to Twin Mountain Troop F SP barracks on rt 302.
They will be interested in seeing your facts, names and statements that you got from the residents.
If it was me I'd turn all information in ASAP so I wouldn't be accused of with-holding potential evidence in an active case. JMO
In the timeless spirit of global oneness, when we here that a case is "active" what exactly does that mean....and please don't tell me that it means the case is stagnant. LOL. Seriously, what SPECIFICALLY, is taking place in terms of the basic ACTIVITY in an active case...ANY case? Does it mean that someone takes a glance back at the case if something new might pop up that might be related to a case that happened back when? Does it mean that at least one someone from law inforcement or private investigators go out there at least 3 times a week into the community and beat the bush to see if anything new turns up? I keep hearing that cases are "active" but what is the criteria for "active" in terms of active case. Thanks.
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..correction on last note: "not stagant" instead of stagnant.... Sorry about that...

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Snowy wrote:
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don't worry about it. location is the least of your problems in terms of credibility.
remember, i am a skeptic.
uhhh, you have 'pretended' to know MM is located in a concrete slab.
so, finger pointing and accusations by "more than just a few" against "a specific individual' is justified? absolutely not.
"do unto others...."
i seriously doubt your kids will be friends with his son for much longer, as you've clearly identified yourself by the personal information you've revealed.
yes, i am consistently from Gloucester, and my writing consistently reflects my point of view.
Oh my kids will continue to be friends with him as he too believes his own father could be involved. That is why he and his mother left that area in the first place.

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Snowy wrote:
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don't worry about it. location is the least of your problems in terms of credibility.
remember, i am a skeptic.
uhhh, you have 'pretended' to know MM is located in a concrete slab.
so, finger pointing and accusations by "more than just a few" against "a specific individual' is justified? absolutely not.
"do unto others...."
i seriously doubt your kids will be friends with his son for much longer, as you've clearly identified yourself by the personal information you've revealed.
yes, i am consistently from Gloucester, and my writing consistently reflects my point of view.
As far as credibility what credibility do you have? None is the way I see it, sorry just my pint of view as well!!! Just because your location does not change does not lend to credibility. I have more than you do as well, all you go by is what you read, at least I got out there and started asking questions and got some answers albeit hearsay but more than what you have accomplished in years sitting on your ass at a keyboard belittling people because their theories or information does not coincide with your own personal opinion. Everyone is entitled to think what they may but you shouldn't bash someone for having opinions or because their location changes. Someone maybe you also mentioned the fact that RF is now being bashed, who the hell is RF the initials of the person I am speaking about is not at all RF?
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As far as credibility what credibility do you have? None is the way I see it, sorry just my pint of view as well!!! Just because your location does not change does not lend to credibility. I have more than you do as well, all you go by is what you read, at least I got out there and started asking questions and got some answers albeit hearsay but more than what you have accomplished in years sitting on your ass at a keyboard belittling people because their theories or information does not coincide with your own personal opinion. Everyone is entitled to think what they may but you shouldn't bash someone for having opinions or because their location changes. Someone maybe you also mentioned the fact that RF is now being bashed, who the hell is RF the initials of the person I am speaking about is not at all RF?
i regret you are hopelessly ignorant by your choice of wores, and by your failing to present facts to justify the direct and implied accusations you are making against another.
similarly, the SBD was bashed, battered and belittled until the day of his death, and beyond.
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Bill 05478 wrote:
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Oh Boy reveal my IP number loser!!! I really don't give a shit, and while your at it go take a flying F%#@!!!!
Bill 05478... Here's a little advice. Keep your cool. The intent of some, but not all on this forum is to discourage participation. They do this through use of ridicule, combative dialogue, questioning one's credibility, discrediting any insight anyone one may have and attempting to determine one's location. This is not the purpose of this forum. Stick to what you have in terms of insight, perception, etc., regarding the disappearance and case of MM. Let the pack grunt and growl all they want and allow them to engage in blatant bullying and grandiosity as apparently this is their forte. Some people actually do read this site expressly for information because there is lack of same. It appears there exists a soup can of information from years ago and nothing found since. Imagination, creativity is lacking in a few people. Period. They do not wish to think outside the soup can. Their narcissism dictates they do not listen to any other ideas, theories especially when it appears incompatible with the "evidence" that exists in the soup can. This resistance may be the foundation as to why the MM case may never be solved, unfortunately. This is the sad part.

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i regret you are hopelessly ignorant by your choice of wores, and by your failing to present facts to justify the direct and implied accusations you are making against another.
similarly, the SBD was bashed, battered and belittled until the day of his death, and beyond.
I regret that you seem hopelessly blind to being open and discussing any new information that may come forward whether it be hearsay or truth on here, because it does not coincide with your own personal opinion. You'd rather attack people (not just myself) because their theories don't agree with yours once again. If what information I have is hearsay which I too believe it is, and after discussing with you yesterday have opened my mind to other options. Why can't you do the same? There is a short list of suspects in this case but this persons name has been on it since the early going. But as you know police cannot just go on hearsay, all they can do is hope the culprit slips up someway somehow. I will admit you do make some valid points and have opened my eyes to other possibilities. Could you please try to do the same? I feel for the SBD's family, but seeing how he was the last known person to see MM, he definitely would've been at that time the very least a person of interest. Anyone who drove down that road that night would be. Including RF and the person I speak of. This does not mean they are guilty by any stretch, but it did put them in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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rozShoem wrote:
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Bill 05478... Here's a little advice. Keep your cool. The intent of some, but not all on this forum is to discourage participation. They do this through use of ridicule, combative dialogue, questioning one's credibility, discrediting any insight anyone one may have and attempting to determine one's location. This is not the purpose of this forum. Stick to what you have in terms of insight, perception, etc., regarding the disappearance and case of MM. Let the pack grunt and growl all they want and allow them to engage in blatant bullying and grandiosity as apparently this is their forte. Some people actually do read this site expressly for information because there is lack of same. It appears there exists a soup can of information from years ago and nothing found since. Imagination, creativity is lacking in a few people. Period. They do not wish to think outside the soup can. Their narcissism dictates they do not listen to any other ideas, theories especially when it appears incompatible with the "evidence" that exists in the soup can. This resistance may be the foundation as to why the MM case may never be solved, unfortunately. This is the sad part.
I try to keep my cool the best I can. Instead of bickering on here wouldn't be in the best interest of MM and her family that we discuss our opinions openly without demoralizing them? There are so many scenarios and questions in this case and had it not been mishandled in the beginning we may not be here now.

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uhhh, you have 'pretended' to know MM is located in a concrete slab.
I never said MM was in a concrete slab, if you look at the threads one person came to this conclusion the same person who actually named the person of interest. How did she know his name specifically? Hmmm!!!

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So Maura is supposedly buried under some concret slab in Benton?

I did not answer that with a yes or a no, in fact I told hannah to go ask her friend. Like I said everyone draws their own conclusions on here and if it does not agree with their opinion they don't want to hear it.
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Bill 05478 wrote:
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I regret that you seem hopelessly blind to being open and discussing any new information that may come forward whether it be hearsay or truth on here, because it does not coincide with your own personal opinion. You'd rather attack people (not just myself) because their theories don't agree with yours once again. If what information I have is hearsay which I too believe it is, and after discussing with you yesterday have opened my mind to other options. Why can't you do the same? There is a short list of suspects in this case but this persons name has been on it since the early going. But as you know police cannot just go on hearsay, all they can do is hope the culprit slips up someway somehow. I will admit you do make some valid points and have opened my eyes to other possibilities. Could you please try to do the same? I feel for the SBD's family, but seeing how he was the last known person to see MM, he definitely would've been at that time the very least a person of interest. Anyone who drove down that road that night would be. Including RF and the person I speak of. This does not mean they are guilty by any stretch, but it did put them in the wrong place at the wrong time.
thank you for your cogent post.
the last person to see someone alive, especially if a passerby, does not automatically become a person of interest. SBD was never, to my knowledge, officially deemed to be a person of interest. i am not convinced MM was, in fact, in NH at the time of her disappearance. there are too many gaps in information to be certain she was, although it can be presumed she was.
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rozShoem wrote:
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Bill 05478... Here's a little advice. Keep your cool. The intent of some, but not all on this forum is to discourage participation. They do this through use of ridicule, combative dialogue, questioning one's credibility, discrediting any insight anyone one may have and attempting to determine one's location. This is not the purpose of this forum. Stick to what you have in terms of insight, perception, etc., regarding the disappearance and case of MM. Let the pack grunt and growl all they want and allow them to engage in blatant bullying and grandiosity as apparently this is their forte. Some people actually do read this site expressly for information because there is lack of same. It appears there exists a soup can of information from years ago and nothing found since. Imagination, creativity is lacking in a few people. Period. They do not wish to think outside the soup can. Their narcissism dictates they do not listen to any other ideas, theories especially when it appears incompatible with the "evidence" that exists in the soup can. This resistance may be the foundation as to why the MM case may never be solved, unfortunately. This is the sad part.
well, Roz...here is an intelligent, well-written post, unlike many of your recent posts. hmmm, interesting. no more flights of fancy?
it's notable that a flurry of activity comes about when a new accusation is introduced, or when a re-accusation is made. typically, there will be a loud flapping of wings just before all the feathers will land in the same pile. observation is a wonderful gift.
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rozShoem wrote:
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Bill 05478... Here's a little advice. Keep your cool. The intent of some, but not all on this forum is to discourage participation. They do this through use of ridicule, combative dialogue, questioning one's credibility, discrediting any insight anyone one may have and attempting to determine one's location. This is not the purpose of this forum. Stick to what you have in terms of insight, perception, etc., regarding the disappearance and case of MM. Let the pack grunt and growl all they want and allow them to engage in blatant bullying and grandiosity as apparently this is their forte. Some people actually do read this site expressly for information because there is lack of same. It appears there exists a soup can of information from years ago and nothing found since. Imagination, creativity is lacking in a few people. Period. They do not wish to think outside the soup can. Their narcissism dictates they do not listen to any other ideas, theories especially when it appears incompatible with the "evidence" that exists in the soup can. This resistance may be the foundation as to why the MM case may never be solved, unfortunately. This is the sad part.
well, Roz...here is an intelligent, well-written post, unlike many of your recent posts. hmmm, interesting. no more flights of fancy and incoherence?
it's notable that a flurry of activity comes about when a new accusation is introduced, or when a re-accusation is made. typically, there will be a loud flapping of wings just before all the feathers will land in the same pile. keen observation is a wonderful gift.

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Snowy wrote:
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thank you for your cogent post.
the last person to see someone alive, especially if a passerby, does not automatically become a person of interest. SBD was never, to my knowledge, officially deemed to be a person of interest. i am not convinced MM was, in fact, in NH at the time of her disappearance. there are too many gaps in information to be certain she was, although it can be presumed she was.
SBD was a person of interest albeit brief. From some of things I have read I would not argue your point of where MM was at the time of her disappearance, as you say "there are too many gaps in information to be certain she was". I remember reading at some point that SBD told his family that the pictures of MM that they posted in the media were not the female that he spoke to that night, but later told police that it was in fact MM. Also the accident reconstruction crews had said that appeared that MM's car may have been placed there simply because they say the snow bank could not have caused the damage that was on here car.

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Snowy wrote:
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well, Roz...here is an intelligent, well-written post, unlike many of your recent posts. hmmm, interesting. no more flights of fancy and incoherence?
it's notable that a flurry of activity comes about when a new accusation is introduced, or when a re-accusation is made. typically, there will be a loud flapping of wings just before all the feathers will land in the same pile. keen observation is a wonderful gift.
I have a few questions for you Snowy.

Do you know what became of the knife that supposedly had a blood stain on it?

I know the person who turned it over had stated that he believed his brother had something to do with MM's disappearance, but died prior to police being able to question him.

Does anyone know his name?

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