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Answers were revealed. Remember last week I was making a statement saying its good to have another side of an argument? After looking at Mr. Healey's comments that Frostman posted about what he thought happened he mentioned that there was a 90% chance that the AFRAME wasn't involved.
So you have the PI and many other posters posting the logic why the AFRAME had nothing to do with the case.
I'm disappointed that PIs and family wouldn't make a comment about this earlier. WHY DID RENNER HAVE TO POST IT? Imagine the owner of the house if he was trying to sell it how much money he could lose? Imagine the tenants that lived in the house that were implicated but were never cleared and people let others run the assumption: " It was human blood, but we don't know if the DNA was tested." That is a very sad thing to allow to happen.
Lighthouse I would think that if there was any findings of evidence pointing to a murder, kidnapping or any other crime the police and investigaters would have been all over that house and surrounding it in yellow tape. The neighborhood would have been talking about it as that is a nice quiet area.
To my knowledge none of that happened so I think I can safely say that the aframe had nothing to do with Maura Murray.
And yes I agree it was a very sad thing to let happen but blaming the innocent has been going on for years and I'm sure it will continue.
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who is skye in relation to MM?and who is Roo...Everyones being so darn cryptic..Jeesh.Anyone?
Skye was CM´s girlfriend at the time. Somebody claiming to be her cousin posted on topix for a while and was quite upset about any talk of her being possible connected to MM disappearance.

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NHSP had posession of anything from the Aframe.
I would guess that any, if any, findings would be with NH Cold Case Unit. It wouldn't be anything that would be shared with public.
Just my thoughts.
Shack. I'm not trying to jump on you but was a crime scene ever established there by the police? Was it taped off? Did LE search the AFRAME?

Why is this such a huge piece of B.S.? Citigirl told us that FM was never there. I showed articles that he was interviewed and he stated he was there. He was given the key.

This is what I was talking about the other day. Why should any reader accept a story of a man with a metal detector being asked to leave the crash site, when the information about the AFRAME was never given to the people in truth just pieces of what they wanted to share.

And again I'm not trying to be rude to you please don't take it as such. This quote is from Renner's blog from Mr. Healy can you tell me what you think this means:[ But, for the most part, the searches have yielded no clues. "We found a piece of rug with some blood in an old abandoned house but I'm 90% sure it had nothing to do with the case. We gave the location to police."]

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Answers were revealed. Remember last week I was making a statement saying its good to have another side of an argument? After looking at Mr. Healey's comments that Frostman posted about what he thought happened he mentioned that there was a 90% chance that the AFRAME wasn't involved.
So you have the PI and many other posters posting the logic why the AFRAME had nothing to do with the case.
I'm disappointed that PIs and family wouldn't make a comment about this earlier. WHY DID RENNER HAVE TO POST IT? Imagine the owner of the house if he was trying to sell it how much money he could lose? Imagine the tenants that lived in the house that were implicated but were never cleared and people let others run the assumption: " It was human blood, but we don't know if the DNA was tested." That is a very sad thing to allow to happen.
Yes a very sad thing to allow to happen.

The blog post Frostman quoted was interesting and provides some answers to this aframe thing (90% sure not related) but instead now Healy is suspecting someone else, who I infer from comments at Renner's may be the "prominent family" member mentioned in this forum.

Again, if there was evidence that this man committed a crime and buried someone in his driveway (as per local rumor posted in this forum) then I would think that would be probable cause for a search warrant. If there's no evidence then why did Healy seem so certain and cryptically refer to this man or some other in his interview with Renner knowing this will be in a book?

I'm hoping answers will be revealed in general on this disappearance, not specific to the aframe as that is clear to be not related in my opinion.

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Skye was CM´s girlfriend at the time. Somebody claiming to be her cousin posted on topix for a while and was quite upset about any talk of her being possible connected to MM disappearance.
Ahhh you have taken my advice I see. It must be noon in Sweeden and you have located the old man. Tell him "the pillar who shines bright thanks him, and he should rest now, for the case needs to be solved soon and we will need his answers."

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Yes a very sad thing to allow to happen.
The blog post Frostman quoted was interesting and provides some answers to this aframe thing (90% sure not related) but instead now Healy is suspecting someone else, who I infer from comments at Renner's may be the "prominent family" member mentioned in this forum.
Again, if there was evidence that this man committed a crime and buried someone in his driveway (as per local rumor posted in this forum) then I would think that would be probable cause for a search warrant. If there's no evidence then why did Healy seem so certain and cryptically refer to this man or some other in his interview with Renner knowing this will be in a book?
I'm hoping answers will be revealed in general on this disappearance, not specific to the aframe as that is clear to be not related in my opinion.
jldross I have never seen concrete poured in February or any cold months here in NH. Do you remember where you saw that info?

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Yes a very sad thing to allow to happen.
The blog post Frostman quoted was interesting and provides some answers to this aframe thing (90% sure not related) but instead now Healy is suspecting someone else, who I infer from comments at Renner's may be the "prominent family" member mentioned in this forum.
Again, if there was evidence that this man committed a crime and buried someone in his driveway (as per local rumor posted in this forum) then I would think that would be probable cause for a search warrant. If there's no evidence then why did Healy seem so certain and cryptically refer to this man or some other in his interview with Renner knowing this will be in a book?
I'm hoping answers will be revealed in general on this disappearance, not specific to the aframe as that is clear to be not related in my opinion.
Read the first part of the quote again: "But, for the most part, the searches have yielded no clues."

What clues than or evidence is he making any assumptions to say anyone is guilty of anything? If he has nothing, than he is using "nothing" as a clue. Meaning: prominent family must of done it, because of the huge cover up. That seems more like a guess.

JLDROSS if you lived in NH and you were surrounded by woods where you can dump the body miles away to never implicate you in a crime, why would you dump the body and bury it in your driveway? Can you really tell me the strategic advantage to this? this is NH not New Orleans?

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jldross I have never seen concrete poured in February or any cold months here in NH. Do you remember where you saw that info?
Brillant! Excellent contribution (in my opinion). I never thought of that.
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I was not at the Aframe..I was at the Lodge...while the professional searchers and investigators went to the Aframe. I don't know how to write it so it will be understood...or better still remembered.

As for the "metal detector guy"....you can believe it or not....it is true....

To me ...this isn't helpful as to how Maura's scent
disappeared a few feet from her car.

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Shack wrote:
I was not at the Aframe..I was at the Lodge...while the professional searchers and investigators went to the Aframe. I don't know how to write it so it will be understood...or better still remembered.
As for the "metal detector guy"....you can believe it or not....it is true....
To me ...this isn't helpful as to how Maura's scent
disappeared a few feet from her car.
No one said you were at the aframe.
I asked how you knew it was MENSTRUAL BLOOD found on the rug. Can you please answer that question?

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jldross I have never seen concrete poured in February or any cold months here in NH. Do you remember where you saw that info?
I saw the comment on topix from Jan. 2011 I think it was but I can't find the post now.

There's a comment also on websleuths that refers back to the topix comment:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Missing!! > Missing but not forgotten Discussion > NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 -#7

"06-11-2011, 12:39 PM
Thanks - this is a great forum and I'm glad to have found it.

As Kiln_Wood pointed out, the county attorney is the step-mother of the person in question. As to your other questions, honestly I don't know much more than you do. From what I read on the Topix discussion, this guy is thought to be rather disturbed, even "psychotic," by most or all who know him. The kind of person you get a bad gut feeling from just spotting randomly in public. I would guess his family has a hunch he could be responsible for MM's disappearance, but they don't know for sure. I do agree that it's unlikely that he did it, they know it, and there is some sort of massive cover-up to save their family reputation.

Anyway, even disregarding this guy's unseemly reputation, it raises flags that
his father's concrete company poured a new concrete floor, in the dead of winter, not long after MM disappeared -- and denied LE the right to search the property.

Assuming for a moment this guy is the perp: what's perturbing is the thought that he may have committed other crimes, who knows how many. There is, after all, an alarming number of women who went missing not all that far from where MM did. Brianna Maitland springs to mind. Just a thought.

It sounds like the new concrete floor was poured in a building owned by RS's father. Am I correct? I wonder if any of the employees were involved in the pouring? I also wonder if the floor actually needed to be replaced. The employees should be able to answer that question."

In this comment the concrete is a floor, but I saw in another comment that I can't locate now that it was a driveway.

If this is who Healy is suspecting then I would say logically there is no evidence to back up this rumor or there would be a search warrant granted and the floor dug up. If there is no evidence then I think it is irresponsible for a professional to refer to who he suspects knowing this will be printed in a book.
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No one said you were at the aframe.
I asked how you knew it was MENSTRUAL BLOOD found on the rug. Can you please answer that question?
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I was not at the Aframe..I was at the Lodge...while the professional searchers and investigators went to the Aframe. I don't know how to write it so it will be understood...or better still remembered.
As for the "metal detector guy"....you can believe it or not....it is true....
To me ...this isn't helpful as to how Maura's scent
disappeared a few feet from her car.
Shack - watched ID episode today where fm mentions "maura might have worn the glove"
Also do we know how successful this bloodhound and the handler were at finding any other previous missing persons or just their tracking ability altogether?

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Food for thought. Watching the ID show FM states:

"She was going to Bartlett she is familair with that town, that's where she knows. She's stayed in every place possible, she knows she can get a room there, and if she can't she knows other places. "

Watch you tube Maura murray part 2/5 2:32.

My question is if she can't get a room I'm thinking it is a hotel room, what are the other places she knows? That kind of seems weird. Maybe the camera edited another part of what he was saying?

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Shack wrote:
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Why is your answer not a surprise. Guess I'll chalk that up to another untrue rumor.

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jldross wrote:
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I saw the comment on topix from Jan. 2011 I think it was but I can't find the post now.
There's a comment also on websleuths that refers back to the topix comment:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Missing!! > Missing but not forgotten Discussion > NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 -#7
"06-11-2011, 12:39 PM
Thanks - this is a great forum and I'm glad to have found it.
As Kiln_Wood pointed out, the county attorney is the step-mother of the person in question. As to your other questions, honestly I don't know much more than you do. From what I read on the Topix discussion, this guy is thought to be rather disturbed, even "psychotic," by most or all who know him. The kind of person you get a bad gut feeling from just spotting randomly in public. I would guess his family has a hunch he could be responsible for MM's disappearance, but they don't know for sure. I do agree that it's unlikely that he did it, they know it, and there is some sort of massive cover-up to save their family reputation.
Anyway, even disregarding this guy's unseemly reputation, it raises flags that
his father's concrete company poured a new concrete floor, in the dead of winter, not long after MM disappeared -- and denied LE the right to search the property.
Assuming for a moment this guy is the perp: what's perturbing is the thought that he may have committed other crimes, who knows how many. There is, after all, an alarming number of women who went missing not all that far from where MM did. Brianna Maitland springs to mind. Just a thought.
It sounds like the new concrete floor was poured in a building owned by RS's father. Am I correct? I wonder if any of the employees were involved in the pouring? I also wonder if the floor actually needed to be replaced. The employees should be able to answer that question."
In this comment the concrete is a floor, but I saw in another comment that I can't locate now that it was a driveway.
If this is who Healy is suspecting then I would say logically there is no evidence to back up this rumor or there would be a search warrant granted and the floor dug up. If there is no evidence then I think it is irresponsible for a professional to refer to who he suspects knowing this will be printed in a book.
Thank you for the information. I'm with you,I don't think there's any evidence to back up the rumor. If there was evidence then there would have been a search warrant no matter who the family was.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:
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Read the first part of the quote again: "But, for the most part, the searches have yielded no clues."
What clues than or evidence is he making any assumptions to say anyone is guilty of anything? If he has nothing, than he is using "nothing" as a clue. Meaning: prominent family must of done it, because of the huge cover up. That seems more like a guess.
JLDROSS if you lived in NH and you were surrounded by woods where you can dump the body miles away to never implicate you in a crime, why would you dump the body and bury it in your driveway? Can you really tell me the strategic advantage to this? this is NH not New Orleans?
I think it's clear there is no physical evidence known by Healy or LE or they would have obtained a search warrant and/or arrested him.

Dumping a body in cement instead of in the woods, strategic advantage could be:

- not wanting to take chance to be seen dumping the body
- not wanting your DNA to be linked to the crime if the body is found and your DNA is on it
- not wanting her blood found in your truck or whatever vehicle you use to dump the body
- knowing the law enough to know that LE would need probable cause to dig up your driveway or floor and being clever enough not to let this happen by leaving no physical evidence behind
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Lighthouse 101 wrote:
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Shack - watched ID episode today where fm mentions "maura might have worn the glove"
Also do we know how successful this bloodhound and the handler were at finding any other previous missing persons or just their tracking ability altogether?
If you watched it..it was NOT a Bloodhound....it was a breed that starts with a "M".....can't remember...a type of shepherd.....
(too tired to look it up now) I wish they had really used a Bloodhound.

Perhaps...maybe...at another time..a Bloodhound was used and that info. wasn't put forth....
The glove...new...guessing even if she hadn't worn it, would have her scent just being with her belongings...I dunno..

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It was a Belgian Shepherd called a Malinois.

OK. I have been quietly reading here for almost 2 weeks while enjoying myself in NH.

What have we all learned? First, Shack, doesn't know shit. She tells you that in almost every post she starts. Second, any time someone asks a question of her, all you hear are crickets. Want to know why? She tells you all the time. She doesn't know anything.

If this isn't for entertainment, what else is it for?

How long did people go over and over and over that bullshit about the A frame? I wonder who dropped that turd over the fence?

I can't keep from laughing my ass off. I thought that I needed to participate to keep the buffoonery going. But clearly I don't. All I need do is read. This is great. Keep it going. Keep engaging Shack, you will find that she has all kinds of things to say, just don't ask for any specifics. You will either get I don't know anything or the sweet sound of crickets from her.

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Oh, so there is no confusion. So people don't think I am talking about the people here, this time. When I talk about all the time they went over and over and over the bullshit about the A-frame, I don't mean this time. I mean the three or four other times over the last eight years, that this was brought up.

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