Maura Murray

Simply Sarcasm wrote:

He was/is a professor, as well, at a law school. Regardless of his politics/case theorizing on this and other issues - he knows the law.
In regards to what he posted to Observer - I don't know that that was any more than a post intended to scare the original poster. Perhaps to make them realize that making claims about a potentially dead, definitely missing person, is a bad idea?

let me ask you this Simply: i f he is indeed a former defense attorney. What is the purpose of scaring Observer? Why then send info to Renner without certainty of who Observer was? that is why the conversation is going on.

Pretty difficult to explain IMO but i look forward to explanations.

Simply does have some good points- FL really is a non factor in maura being missing. I guess it it just something to talk about till facts come in.

JWB wrote:

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let me ask you this Simply: i f he is indeed a former defense attorney. What is the purpose of scaring Observer? Why then send info to Renner without certainty of who Observer was? that is why the conversation is going on.

I can only verify that Frederick Leatherman was a prominent defense attorney. I have absolutely no idea why he would scare Observer. I don't see how his argument in that post (that one could be arrested, potentially, for hindering a criminal investigation, or whatever he wrote) would hold water.

I see why you would question his motives as to that post - but I don't think it was for any shady reason.

JWB wrote:

Simply does have some good points- FL really is a non factor in maura being missing. I guess it it just something to talk about till facts come in.

I agree FL is not really relevant to Maura´s disappearance. Still, one can´t help but wonder about his involvement with the case. He clearly posted with an agenda. Not only did he push the dad-did-it angle, but also the incest theory. FL was a selfprofessed child abuse/molestaion victim, and from what he posted, he recognized traits in FM/MM relationship from his own experiences. I´m not saying there is any truth to it, just what FL posted. It is quite interesting the way family has went about things re MM missing case, and it makes me wonder what really is at the bottom of it all. Something is rotten in Denmark...

hannah_b wrote:

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Have you personally been there to see it for yourself? I haven´t, but those people are registered to this address, empty lot or not. Google maps and such are´n´t always accurate with street numbers.

Just reconfirmed with a real estate agent selling 215 Fairview Dr. Paducah KY. There is no 750 Fairview Dr. Paducah, KY.

mcsmom wrote:

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Just reconfirmed with a real estate agent selling 215 Fairview Dr. Paducah KY. There is no 750 Fairview Dr. Paducah, KY.

Thanks for clarifying. Makes it even more interesting.

Just me--paris wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe i didn't answer this very well, let me try again.
The person had to already know my email in order to instant message me on the aol buddy program. I learned how to block ppl from seeing me online, and on aol, as soon as I figured out how that aol program worked. Needless to say, i was pretty suprised when this person started talking to me everytime I signed on. I felt uneasy.
The only person I still talk to to this day on the buddy program was in one of the houses where Fred went to talk about keeping an eye out for Maura. It was random and he sat through a good visit. He said Fred was kind.

Did you post on Advocates forum? Thank you.

mcsmom wrote:

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They must be living on the grass.....the lot is zoned for multi residential purposes. Just like the building next to the empty lot is.

Maybe there once was an apartment building there that was torn down and some people are for whatever reason still registered to that address.

amy researches wrote:

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Interesting. Do you happen to know if it's always been an empty lot or if there was a residence there back whenever he posted that as his address? I don't know what year this was posted as his address.

He allegedly moved to Paducah in 2006. Posted on both Adv´s forums in 2009-10. White pages has his address as Karen Dr, Paducah.

Check this out:

http://www.re-newsit.com/2012/08/Fredrickleat...

How come the subject of FL comes up here on topix at this particular time? Too much of an coincidence. Methinks us posters are being used by somebody for some purpose...

Simply Sarcasm wrote:

Back in the day (mabe a couple years ago? I have no concept of time)....back when Dawn, Mason, WhiteWash all posted - this whole conversation was had re: Mason and whether he was, in fact, who he claimed to be.
As I recall, he was verified to be precisely who he claimed.
Why are we discussing Mason, again? Forgive me - but I don't see the point. And I'm not being snotty, either. I just don't follow the logic.

Because digging up old crap keeps the talk going. You are right SS that its been done.

mcsmom, I notice the re-newsit site in several instances uses the exact same wording you do and brings up the exact same issues you do. Any particular reason?

I guess the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case spills over into MM discussion.

hannah_b wrote:

mcsmom, I notice the re-newsit site in several instances uses the exact same wording you do and brings up the exact same issues you do. Any particular reason?

who cares- sorry hannah but talk about turd stirring.

BooYah wrote:

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Because digging up old crap keeps the talk going. You are right SS that its been done.

And you are?

JWB wrote:

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who cares- sorry hannah but talk about turd stirring.

I think it´s important to be aware some posters come here with an agenda. Seemingly more so than in other missing persons discussions. The timing of the FL discussion is no conicidence. I´m not particularly into turd stirring, but I think everyone should be aware of what´s going on, and not let themselves or MM discussion be used for hidden agendas.

hannah_b wrote:

mcsmom, I notice the re-newsit site in several instances uses the exact same wording you do and brings up the exact same issues you do. Any particular reason?

Ive noticed that one of rhe PIs uses the same word you use"Methinks" Any particular reason?

hannah_b wrote:

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I think it´s important to be aware some posters come here with an agenda. Seemingly more so than in other missing persons discussions. The timing of the FL discussion is no conicidence. I´m not particularly into turd stirring, but I think everyone should be aware of what´s going on, and not let themselves or MM discussion be used for hidden agendas.

agree but to say they are wrong without facts justmakes you look bad. Ask questions - get facts then decide.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Ive noticed that one of rhe PIs uses the same word you use"Methinks" Any particular reason?

Yes. It goes with the rotten in Denmark reference. I happen to like Shakespeare. Maybe the PI, who I believe to be an educated person, does too.