Maura Murray

findmaura wrote:

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No,Im certainly not high..But I am sick of your bullying&insults..Shack must have said something about you,the way you get all worked up..Maybe you need some more of that lysol huh?..Back off me dude.Your the manipultor here.

Would really like to address your Posts, and others however my eyelids are getting heavy and ready for bed. However, the "Lysol" word got to me. For years, some of my words were "translated" into what THEY wanted to read. For example, I used to sign off with
"th 3 monkeys"...they thought I was calling them monkeys.
Anyway the "Lysol" was said regarding Lyme Kiln Rd murder of the nice young innocent youth CHRISTOPHER GREY. 4 hoodlesm were jailed.
AND,,,,nearby Lily Pond murder of Tom C. Bed time....

Shack wrote:

<quoted text>Would really like to address your Posts, and others however my eyelids are getting heavy and ready for bed. However, the "Lysol" word got to me. For years, some of my words were "translated" into what THEY wanted to read. For example, I used to sign off with
"th 3 monkeys"...they thought I was calling them monkeys.
Anyway the "Lysol" was said regarding Lyme Kiln Rd murder of the nice young innocent youth CHRISTOPHER GREY. 4 hoodlesm were jailed.
AND,,,,nearby Lily Pond murder of Tom C. Bed time....

Im so glad you are presenting your explanation..Its time you set things straight..Those of us that were not reading in the past might appreciate your "side"..

findmaura wrote:

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No,Im certainly not high..But I am sick of your bullying&insults..Shack must have said something about you,the way you get all worked up..Maybe you need some more of that lysol huh?..Back off me dude.Your the manipultor here.

Seriously, an Internet bully, very impressive.
It's a widely known fact that bullies are insecure, this is known, so imagine how insecure someone who bullies people they don't know on the Internet must be???
It's ridiculous, half of this guys posts are attempts to insult people, that's pretty sad if you think about it. Someone must be extremely insecure if they feel the need to try to bully and insult people online, they just must be. People that are happy and secure in themselves Just dont feel the need to try to put other people down.
The other half of these guys posts are bragging about omne thing or another, it's hilarious, just another trait of an insecure person. People that arent insecure never brag about themselves, they get enough satisfaction and praise by doing what they do well, no need to brag about it. Some dumb shit too, who goes camping in -25 F weather many times?? Come on, who does that?? Who wants to do that?? Who follows a deer carcass for 5 days as it gets dispersed by animals?? Does anybody else not notice this??

It's actually really sad if you think about it.

-25 F? Your Proud USA Military Service Men & Women..
Deer carcass? Scientist & Crime Scene Units so they can determine state of decomp, larva age, etc; to help fight crime..
Braggin? Im guilty of that.. Someone asked me what I was doing & I was proud of my lil once a week job on espn radio..

I take no pride whatsoever in throwing people around, wearing a vest, breaking up fights, putting my life on the line for customers, etc; - I do it cus im good at it & I want my daughter to have a great education.. Also, when you look like I do, no1 will hire you, even though I have a nice degree.. Thats my burden to bare..

Im pretty sure your not talking about me, but those are the people that do those things.. Also them "Extreme Sports/Games" people do some weird stuff..

If you werent asking a question about what I answered, im sorry..

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

<quoted text> Some dumb shit too, who goes camping in -25 F weather many times?? Come on, who does that?? Who wants to do that?? Who follows a deer carcass for 5 days as it gets dispersed by animals?? Does anybody else not notice this??
It's actually really sad if you think about it.

Bob, you are a laugh riot. I suppose someone hurt, out in the woods in winter might want someone who knows how to camp out in cold weather if they can't be evacuated immediately. I guess you would prefer someone who has never been out in cold weather trying to help you. It is the difference between someone who makes believe he knows something, and someone who actually knows by doing.

I suppose someone who needs to know how predators behave or someone who searches and might be looking for bodies might want to know how bodies are dispersed by animals. Or you could read and learn it from someone who has actually done it. I wonder if you could track a carcass that distance. I suspect you think anyone can do it. Tracking is easy, when you read it in a book. Again, others doing things you just read about. I spend a lot of time tracking. It is a perishable skill.

So Bob, weird thing is, a search I was on a few weeks ago, chief of the fire department was asking my opinions on what we needed to do, if they missed anything in what they were doing. Odd. Wonder why that was. Maybe because they know what I know? Oh, that's right. The use the SAR pre-plan I wrote for them. Maybe that's why.

What is funny is you actually think you are doing something useful. Siting behind that computer, banging away on the keys, poorly, hours at a time. The other thing I find funniest is you feigning to feel sad for me. Don't, I have a great life. Most of it not spent on the computer with you.

So tell me Bob what is it you do? What do you know? Does anyone actually listen to you when you speak? Do you talk like you write. You must absolutely bore the shit out of people you have contact with, with your ramblings.

Bill

Emmett Dove wrote:

-25 F? Your Proud USA Military Service Men & Women..
Deer carcass? Scientist & Crime Scene Units so they can determine state of decomp, larva age, etc; to help fight crime..
Braggin? Im guilty of that.. Someone asked me what I was doing & I was proud of my lil once a week job on espn radio..
I take no pride whatsoever in throwing people around, wearing a vest, breaking up fights, putting my life on the line for customers, etc; - I do it cus im good at it & I want my daughter to have a great education.. Also, when you look like I do, no1 will hire you, even though I have a nice degree.. Thats my burden to bare..
Im pretty sure your not talking about me, but those are the people that do those things.. Also them "Extreme Sports/Games" people do some weird stuff..
If you werent asking a question about what I answered, im sorry..

First time I was out in weather that cold was in Germany during NCO school during a week in January. In a pup tent. That was actually only -10F. Best part was the temps actually rose to just above freezing for a few hours, long enough to pour some freezing rain on us and then the temps went right back down to -10 again. Everything including our tents were like a skating rink.

And nothing wrong with talking about what you have accomplished or if you get a break. Good people deserve a break once in a while also.

Bill

Emmett Dove wrote:

-25 F? Your Proud USA Military Service Men & Women..
Deer carcass? Scientist & Crime Scene Units so they can determine state of decomp, larva age, etc; to help fight crime..
Braggin? Im guilty of that.. Someone asked me what I was doing & I was proud of my lil once a week job on espn radio..
answered, im sorry..

Obviously I wasn't talking about you Emmett, I hope you weren't thinking I was.

I guess Id say you were bragging a little bit the other week when you can back but that was completely different than what bill does in half his posts. You were more coming back and saying hi to people and telling em you've been doing better and got a really cool gig on ESPN radio, I didn't take that as bragging. Looking back on it I guess you were a little bit but I took it as you telling everyone what you've been up to.
And you don't constantly brag in every other post like bill does, nothing even resembling it. Bills posts have the mark of a very insecure man, yours have the mark of a humble man, IMO.

As for the -25F thing, yea people in the army do that when they're training or whatever, who the hell claims they do that for fun? Any outdoorsmen will tell you that -25 camping is hell, it is not fun at all.
Same as following the deer carcass for 5 days...exactly scientists and crime scen units like at the body farm and similar places do that for study, and get paid well for it, who the hell does that for fun??
I just find it funny, we're talking about cold temps, bill's camped at -25!...we're talking about a body being disbursed, bill's followed a deer carcass for 5 days! We're talking about houses, bill owns 4! Or was it 3? Idk, even bill's forgotten how many houses he's owned. LoL, it's comical. Z

WTH-the-original wrote:

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First time I was out in weather that cold was in Germany during NCO school during a week in January. In a pup tent. That was actually only -10F. Best part was the temps actually rose to just above freezing for a few hours, long enough to pour some freezing rain on us and then the temps went right back down to -10 again. Everything including our tents were like a skating rink.
And nothing wrong with talking about what you have accomplished or if you get a break. Good people deserve a break once in a while also.
Bill

Thank You Bill!
I never was shipped to real cold climates.. Im not going to lie, the coldest was at CAJMTC up in Indy for some field traning.. I spent most of my time at Benning & Bragg while serving in Operation Anaconda & One Tour in Iraq.. I have friends that went to some very cold places (well cold to them, I couldnt really say) & my grandfather said it was very cold during WW11 near The Bulge.. He wasnt in the "Battle Of The Bulge" but was fighting near there, he always made a point to say that... I have never seen a frozen lake or pond in my life.. I would like to one day..

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Obviously I wasn't talking about you Emmett, I hope you weren't thinking I was.
I guess Id say you were bragging a little bit the other week when you can back but that was completely different than what bill does in half his posts. You were more coming back and saying hi to people and telling em you've been doing better and got a really cool gig on ESPN radio, I didn't take that as bragging. Looking back on it I guess you were a little bit but I took it as you telling everyone what you've been up to.
And you don't constantly brag in every other post
yours have the mark of a humble man, IMO.

Your correct! I was happy to talk to some people I hadnt talked to in awhile.. I edited Bills name out because I really dont want to be in the arguments.. & I didnt think you were talking to me, but seen some questions that I knew I could answer..

findmaura wrote:

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Im so glad you are presenting your explanation..Its time you set things straight..Those of us that were not reading in the past might appreciate your "side"..

I find the pattern of you always showing up to back Jenkins amusing.

I know nothing of the past other than what people have written here and what I have seen on past forums. I found this and thought it was interesting. These are Shack's own words from Advocate's forum:

"I am hated by some Woodsville area residents...because I used to write what I heard on the street and for personal reasons."

That's pretty extreme - she knows she was "hated" - not disliked, not she pissed some people off, she was "hated by some Woodsville residents." She doesn't state why in the quote I found, perhaps she would be good enough to explain why here.

But on that note, if an outsider has pissed off enough of the locals to have them hate her, then I would consider that "poisoning" the locals and be a reason that any further investigations into finding Maura Murray to be made more difficult. JMHO.

This looks like a men's dating site for lonely hearts. Guys say theyre married but are up all night pretend fighting and hooking up. Jenky says he had a girlfriens but that didn't work out. Bills and Jenkys drama keeps us entertained.

Maruchan wrote:

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I find the pattern of you always showing up to back Jenkins amusing.
I know nothing of the past other than what people have written here and what I have seen on past forums. I found this and thought it was interesting. These are Shack's own words from Advocate's forum:
"I am hated by some Woodsville area residents...because I used to write what I heard on the street and for personal reasons."
That's pretty extreme - she knows she was "hated" - not disliked, not she pissed some people off, she was "hated by some Woodsville residents." She doesn't state why in the quote I found, perhaps she would be good enough to explain why here.
But on that note, if an outsider has pissed off enough of the locals to have them hate her, then I would consider that "poisoning" the locals and be a reason that any further investigations into finding Maura Murray to be made more difficult. JMHO.

I find your posts very well written and well thought out. This one especially.

I think you probably showed the best evidence of what "poisoning" actually meant. Bill was using a metaphor and anything short of Shack sprinkling salt in the fields wouldn't "clearly" classify as poisoning an area.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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It is bizarre, we got people here who openly state that they don't care about Maura, yet they're crying about someone's yard being walked on?! So really? You care more about someone's yard than a missing girl?! Who are these people??
For example we got the poster 'looking4aMoose', who hasn't posted in a couple months now. This person was all up in arms about someone walking through their yard during the '06 search for Maura, apparently their pit-bull went through their sliding glass door. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the dog but that's not exactly the searcher's fault, that's just horrible dog training.
The things that some of these people say, some of the people they stick up for is just truly bizarre.

Jenkins - People don't need to give answers or defend themselves over private property. The property is there's and it is their decision if they want searchers on their property or not.

Realize that this wasn't LE asking for permission. This was the amatuer PI's that were looking for something. One weird sniff of a dog and we have another A-frame situation. Would that be fair to put the owner through without his permission? In situations where emotions are high to find a missing girl any small thing that is out of the oridinary and BOOM you are now a suspect.

I also want to know why PI's would need to search the backyard of someone close to the crash site. After she leisurely smoked her cigarette she got in another car and left the scene. Searching a backyard would mean probably mean she was on foot, and I thought she didn't run from the crash?

findmaura wrote:

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Its the hidden agenda..I firmly believe it..Its blatantly obvious..Figure out their connection&I believe it could lead to the killer..Prominent family?LE?A local? IDK

I think it's been a progression beginning with cyberlaw......

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I find your posts very well written and well thought out. This one especially.
I think you probably showed the best evidence of what "poisoning" actually meant. Bill was using a metaphor and anything short of Shack sprinkling salt in the fields wouldn't "clearly" classify as poisoning an area.

Jesus Lighthouse. You don't think that Jenkins didn't know it was a metaphor?

Hey Jenkins, just in case. Yes, it was a metaphor. I don't mean that Shack was literally poisoning people in the town.

Bill

mcsmom wrote:

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I think it's been a progression beginning with cyberlaw......

You guys are a riot.:-)

Someone should really put together a flowchart of how we all are connected in the minds of the conspiracy theorists. If anything will find Maura Murray, I'm sure that would do it by golly. Let me help because I wouldn't want to stand in anyone's way of finding Maura for lack of a properly crowdsourced conspiracy-theory-flowchart.

So far since joining topix in Feb 2012 I've been accused of being Beagle, Beagle's lawyer, and now a member of the Chicago mob harassing Beagle. So I guess that is my supposed role here: operation Beagle Incorporated. Put me down for that.

Cyberlaw... Is that the person in charge of the paid-to-post-at-topix division of the Chicago mob? I should go see what the holdup is on my paycheck. If I don't come back, look for the guy holding the cannoli.

amy researches wrote:

Cyberlaw... Is that the person in charge of the paid-to-post-at-topix division of the Chicago mob? I should go see what the holdup is on my paycheck. If I don't come back, look for the guy holding the cannoli.

Are you saying your part of the Jenkovese topix crime family? Do you and your close friends in this organization call him the Bobfather?

amy researches wrote:

<quoted text>Is that the person in charge of the paid-to-post-at-topix division of the Chicago mob? I should go see what the holdup is on my paycheck. If I don't come back, look for the guy holding the cannoli.

Now you did it. Now they know who to look for. How am I going to get my checks now? But, if you do see him ask him where my checks are also. He is way behind in my payments also.

Bill - hater #2

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Are you saying your part of the Jenkovese topix crime family? Do you and your close friends in this organization call him the Bobfather?

I got to say. You are clever. Very funny stuff.

Bill

Jenkovese crime family lol, that is really some funny shit lighthouse.
Clearly that's why I put OG at the end of my moniker, I started that shit.

Bill- Come on dude you obviously know I know it's a metaphor, hence the post to lighthouse where I said we all obviously know you didn't mean that she salted the earth in the area. Sometimes the shit you post is just ridiculous.

Still waitin for the evidence but at this point it's fairly obvious no such evidence exists and you've just been talking shit.