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Dec 31, 2012
 
amy researches wrote:
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Would you mind posting a link or page number of the websleuths thread where you were reading about a photo of Billy being found in the car? I'd like to read more about that if you have it handy.
i was kind of wondering if or when someone would ask. others following this case for much longer didn't seem to be as intrigued as i was. at least, until you and hannah_b asked. as i said the first time, the individual who posted this as 'fact' is prolific on the site, so i don't even want to write their posting name here, because i don't want to cast any aspersions. it could be – and probably is – nothing. that said, there are three separate mentions, two on the page linked below and one on the page following.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.p...
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#29532
Dec 31, 2012
 
Thanks, whatif. I found this entire pargraph interesting as it not only talks about MM having a photo of her boyfriend, but also THREE bags PLUS a backpack. Donīt remember hearing/reading about that anywhere else. Btw, Peabody is supposedly a relative:

"I continue to refer to bags because I know for certain that Maura had three bags in her car when she vanished: one bag packed with cold weather running gear, another packed with school books, lessons and the book "Without Peril", and a third bag with her clothing, personal items, both wall and auto cell phone chargers, jewelry, favorite stuffed animal from her boyfriend, and the photo of him which she kept in her dorm room. In addition, she had a small back pack which is missing with her."
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#29533
Dec 31, 2012
 
The relative Peabody goes on to specify what items of clothing Maura had packed. Obviously, they would know what was left in the Saturn, but how do they know exactly how much clothing Maura had in her backpack? Not even a weeks worth... Does Peabody really know exactly how many pair of underwear Maura owned and was carrying in her backpack? Strange.
whatif

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Dec 31, 2012
 
hannah_b wrote:
Thanks, whatif. I found this entire pargraph interesting as it not only talks about MM having a photo of her boyfriend, but also THREE bags PLUS a backpack. Donīt remember hearing/reading about that anywhere else. Btw, Peabody is supposedly a relative:
"I continue to refer to bags because I know for certain that Maura had three bags in her car when she vanished: one bag packed with cold weather running gear, another packed with school books, lessons and the book "Without Peril", and a third bag with her clothing, personal items, both wall and auto cell phone chargers, jewelry, favorite stuffed animal from her boyfriend, and the photo of him which she kept in her dorm room. In addition, she had a small back pack which is missing with her."
i believe i recall the poster clarifying that she is close to Maura's family and friends, but not an actual relative. i'd have to hunt for that post. i also recall the poster alluding in a much later post to her husband, which surprised me because i had initially thought she was a 'he'.

i also found the specificity of the three bags interesting. in the end, i think i chalk it up to her being privy to very specific information due to her being so close to the family. maybe she learned about this when maura's belongings were returned prematurely to her family.
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hannah_b wrote:
Thanks, whatif. I found this entire pargraph interesting as it not only talks about MM having a photo of her boyfriend, but also THREE bags PLUS a backpack. Donīt remember hearing/reading about that anywhere else. Btw, Peabody is supposedly a relative:
"I continue to refer to bags because I know for certain that Maura had three bags in her car when she vanished: one bag packed with cold weather running gear, another packed with school books, lessons and the book "Without Peril", and a third bag with her clothing, personal items, both wall and auto cell phone chargers, jewelry, favorite stuffed animal from her boyfriend, and the photo of him which she kept in her dorm room. In addition, she had a small back pack which is missing with her."
Again, Peabody is not a relative and has given out a lot of bogus information.
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Orko Kringer wrote:
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Not speaking for anyone else.
Where James lost me is when he stated this:
"But more than one source has told me off the record that some of the questions pertained to the nature of his relationship with Maura and why on earth she came to his single-bed motel room at 2:30 in the morning and stayed through the night."
It's an insinuation --- Maura's relationship with her father and sleeping in one bed ... That you just don't make without some sort of FACT.
And hiding behind "off the record statements" doesn't cut the mustard when you are posting this on your blog *in which you are promoting a true-crime book* and releasing facts about the case.
FWIW, I have stayed at that hotel. That hotel offers both single and double bed rooms.
i guess where you lose me is at your close-mindedness. so here's a scolding right back at you.

you see, no one here knows what happened to MM. no one here knows, with any certainty, who was involved in her disappearance.
we do know her father was active and important in her life; he would seem to have the most knowledge about his daughter and her relationships. appearances suggest he must be privy to what went wrong.

with nothing proven or disproven, and with a paucity of factual information, this discussion SHOULD BE ENTIRELY SHUT DOWN.
either the speculation continues, sometimes wildly, or someone with a personal interest takes charge and declares that the benefits do not outweigh the abundance of misinformation that is regurgitated and repeated.

now, consider that those whom are reflexively supportive of Fred Murray without ever knowing him or his daughter, have cast blame to various local NH residents from time to time. this, too, has been wild speculation.
it goes both ways, doesn't it?

i cannot stress enough the foolishness of attempting to make sense of non-sense, or fighting...for years!!!....about details of MM's disappearance that are not even sound or correctly established.

this whole discussion is not unlike a rubber band that is stretched both ways....until it eventually will break in the middle.
and then, it becomes totally useless.
i think we arrived there some time ago, to be perfectly honest. at uselessness.
Snowy

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Jan 1, 2013
 
oo00oo wrote:
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Again, Peabody is not a relative and has given out a lot of bogus information.
Amen; quoting the bogus information doesn't make it any more factually correct.

“"Johnny Tango "”

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Jan 1, 2013
 
Orko Kringer wrote:
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Not speaking for anyone else.
Where James lost me is when he stated this:
"But more than one source has told me off the record that some of the questions pertained to the nature of his relationship with Maura and why on earth she came to his single-bed motel room at 2:30 in the morning and stayed through the night."
It's an insinuation --- Maura's relationship with her father and sleeping in one bed ... That you just don't make without some sort of FACT.
And hiding behind "off the record statements" doesn't cut the mustard when you are posting this on your blog *in which you are promoting a true-crime book* and releasing facts about the case.
FWIW, I have stayed at that hotel. That hotel offers both single and double bed rooms.
Maura was dropped @ the motel at approx. 3 am and sat in the lobby sobbing and crying until Fred got up @ around 5:30 or 6 am.

She DID NOT STAY IN THE ROOM WITH HIM.

“"Johnny Tango "”

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Jan 1, 2013
 
Also, Maura and Billy were having serious problems. Billy new there was something wrong hours before Mauras car was found by the Weathered Barn. I believe Him to have been FRANTIC about the whole situation and it is possible that maura had talked to Him and He knew She had a plan, WITHOUT HIM..!

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Jan 1, 2013
 
Snowy wrote:
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i guess where you lose me is at your close-mindedness. so here's a scolding right back at you.
you see, no one here knows what happened to MM. no one here knows, with any certainty, who was involved in her disappearance.
we do know her father was active and important in her life; he would seem to have the most knowledge about his daughter and her relationships. appearances suggest he must be privy to what went wrong.
with nothing proven or disproven, and with a paucity of factual information, this discussion SHOULD BE ENTIRELY SHUT DOWN.
either the speculation continues, sometimes wildly, or someone with a personal interest takes charge and declares that the benefits do not outweigh the abundance of misinformation that is regurgitated and repeated.
now, consider that those whom are reflexively supportive of Fred Murray without ever knowing him or his daughter, have cast blame to various local NH residents from time to time. this, too, has been wild speculation.
it goes both ways, doesn't it?
i cannot stress enough the foolishness of attempting to make sense of non-sense, or fighting...for years!!!....about details of MM's disappearance that are not even sound or correctly established.
this whole discussion is not unlike a rubber band that is stretched both ways....until it eventually will break in the middle.
and then, it becomes totally useless.
i think we arrived there some time ago, to be perfectly honest. at uselessness.
Some people would love it IF this forum would shut down. By the way....Where is BILL..?
Ridiculous

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Tang,

I'm pretty sure you are Beagle. You know so much about this case and you are pretty smug with your posts, kind of off putting actually, yet you pretend to not know where Beagle is originally from? Seriously? Here's an Idea.....Google!
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Tang Zoi wrote:
Also, Maura and Billy were having serious problems. Billy new there was something wrong hours before Mauras car was found by the Weathered Barn. I believe Him to have been FRANTIC about the whole situation and it is possible that maura had talked to Him and He knew She had a plan, WITHOUT HIM..!
So you deny that you are columbo reinvented, but yet you are spewing all this info. Why? Why should we believe you?
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Tang Zoi, I shall take nothing you write as fact. You are not a credible source for information, and you are unable to prove the validity of your statements.
Your fantasies just build another layer to the lore.
Unless truth is established, and that is the job of the official investigators, you are adding to the existing confusion and are disseminating misinformation.
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Jan 1, 2013
 
Tang Zoi wrote:
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Some people would love it IF this forum would shut down. By the way....Where is BILL..?
and Jenky?
i don't need to know, in either case.
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Orko,

I defended you when that lunatic JWB was hounding you about the whole "ping" thing, but I must say, you should run your posts by your editor before you put them up here. Anyone can be an author?! What a ridiculous statement! When you make incorrect statements and then get called on them, you say people are splitting hairs? Stay with sports reporting. Leave investigative journalism to people that know what they are doing.

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Jan 1, 2013
 
whatif wrote:
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i was kind of wondering if or when someone would ask. others following this case for much longer didn't seem to be as intrigued as i was. at least, until you and hannah_b asked. as i said the first time, the individual who posted this as 'fact' is prolific on the site, so i don't even want to write their posting name here, because i don't want to cast any aspersions. it could be – and probably is – nothing. that said, there are three separate mentions, two on the page linked below and one on the page following.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.p...
Thank you for the link. And I do remember reading the other post you talked about, where Peabody said she was not related to Maura but was a friend of a family member. I can't recall the details or which thread that was in though.

Hope you all had a good new year's eve, and that it will be a healthy happy 2013 for all.
Ridiculous

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JWB,

I predict another phase of mania coming. Did you really ask Wowzer about her location again?! Really?! Do you think you're funny asking for green checks? You moron. You really, really need to be punched in the face!

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#29548
Jan 1, 2013
 
Believe what You will. I am not Beagle or Colombo.
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Tang,

Surely you aren't Bill reincarnate?

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From 7:56 am til 10:39 pm on Feb. 9th a total of 52 calls were made from a cell phone which normally had approx. 18 calls per day.

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