Maura Murray

Tang Zoi wrote:

Dysfuntional..........Go to your corners and put on those pointy hats.

Nobody puts baby in a corner.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Ridiculous wrote:

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Snowy,
It's interesting how this works with Bob. I think his form of avoidance runs along the line of" I will exhaust you with lengthy posts. You will struggle through the first couple of thousand words thinking your answer has to be in there, but after having your head filled with redundancy, rumor stated as fact and constant speculation concerning peoples abilities to speak out of their buttocks, you forget what your question actually was and just want to get back to the surface confused and grateful to see the light of day again! I am just typically too drained from the tediousness involved in not only reading one of these diatribes, but trying to decipher them to press my original point. Very affective method of Trolling if you ask me.

i skim, and fortunately, have a great capacity for recalling BS when i see it and smell it. most of us do, except for the one with selective amnesia....or, actually, i think they call it pathological lying. yes?

jenkins wrote:

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This is a disgusting post and a new low for you lighthouse, what the hell happened to you? When did you become a total fkn scumbag?

Oh stop jenkins. The jenkins I know would have laughed at that. relax a little.

Wah Wah Whine

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Oh stop jenkins. The jenkins I know would have laughed at that. relax a little.

Maybe he can't, his pants might be too tight also.

Oh shnap! You guys got me!
Apparently one time, many months ago I did say she was hot. Only problem with what you guys are saying is that you make it out like I constantly say that or omething, like I'm constantly saying this missing and likely murdered girl is hot, which couldn't be further from the truth. She was beautiful but I'm sorry but I can't think of a dead girl as hot, that's just disturbing.

The only reason I said that was to make a point, the point being that she is the exact kind of girl that these sick fucks that kill women want to kill. They don't want to kill tthe fat and ugly girls, they wanna kill a hot girl, the girls that never spoke to them when they were younger, the girls that they could never get as a GF. ALthought they probably could''ve if they weren't so damn weird. insread of recognizing that maybe they're the problem, not the girls but themselves, they blaim the girl and develop a deep hatred for pretty girls, it's rather disturbing.
That post I made back then makes sense and I stand by it, and I still didn't say that I thought she was hot, like I'd wanna get with her or something disgusting like that, the was that Snowy is making it out like, insread I was talking about how these killers have a hatred of hot girls and that maura could be desctibed as hot. She was a beautiful girll, the exact kind of girl some sicko would love to see walking alone on the side of the rd in the middle of winer in NH, it's fkn scary.
This is exactly why my GF has a trainedd German Shepherd protection dog that we registered with the national service dog registry so he can go anywhere she goes, even on aitplanes, and doesn't leave her side and she carries a can of pepper spray that can shoot 20' in her purse always, because sick fucks like this exist and they do prey on pretty women. It's scary, it really is.

So wow snowy,, i'm impressed, you managed to completely misconstrue ONE post that I made months ago, you want a prize or something? How about a cookie with your name on it?
I descrived her as hot ONCE in a compltely different conext than me saying I think she's hot, so you're still full of shit.
The fact is that his doesn't change the fact that you're a iar snowy, and your group of misfit trolls are bad people. It's sad that people like you exist in this world, truly sad. You're a troll on a thread about a missing and likely murdered girl, now THAT is disgusting.

What happened? You guys got pissed that I was actually talking about the case so you had to conspirre together to come up with something, anything that would make me shut up about the face hat the SBD LIED about the events of that night and that in all likelihood Maura was murered and that even the NHSP believe she wwas a victim of foul play? This is just clasic, you guy just HAVE to come up with something to get me off topic, fkn sas state of affairs

jenkins wrote:

Oh shnap! You guys got me!
Apparently one time, many months ago I did say she was hot. Only problem with what you guys are saying is that you make it out like I constantly say that or omething, like I'm constantly saying this missing and likely murdered girl is hot, which couldn't be further from the truth. She was beautiful but I'm sorry but I can't think of a dead girl as hot, that's just disturbing.

snipped out the blah, blah crap..

How do you know she was wearing tight pants?(for the 2nd time)

dont "kill the fat & ugly girls"... That was mean & yes people kill anyone.. Looks isnt a factor in most murders.. Looks is just an outward appearance.. On my 1'st tour in Iraq, I was told & learned "we are all the same brand in the sand", which was and is Very true!!! Ive seen the 4 seasons of the ID show, & never looked as if someone was "beautiful", I looked at facts & victims!! Every guy likes different style women & im quite positive she wasnt EVERY mans type!!!!! we are all beautiful in our own ways.. But Beauty is not going to find a missing woman!! Tell that to the families of sooooo many victims of various crimes against women that "ohh well shoot, she was fat & ugly, I dont believe anyone would hurt her"...

She wasnt some super model or something.. She is a child of God.. She is missing.. Her looks shouldnt matter at all!!!!!!

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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At some point you have to theorize that maybe Jenkins picked her up at the crash site. Thats how he knows so much. I don't think Jenkins did anything wrong, but when she was in the car she couldn't take his ramblings and she threw herself out of the vehicle as Jenkins was driving. Jenkins in deep thought didn't even know she was gone until a few days later.

I actually nearly choked from laughing so hard!

no backtracking. no squirming out of a corner.
now, he's lying about lying.
sorry, dude.
you lied. and you lie. habitually.
YOU lie. not me. get it right.

Emmett Dove wrote:

dont "kill the fat & ugly girls"... That was mean & yes people kill anyone.. Looks isnt a factor in most murders.. Looks is just an outward appearance.. On my 1'st tour in Iraq, I was told & learned "we are all the same brand in the sand", which was and is Very true!!! Ive seen the 4 seasons of the ID show, & never looked as if someone was "beautiful", I looked at facts & victims!! Every guy likes different style women & im quite positive she wasnt EVERY mans type!!!!! we are all beautiful in our own ways.. But Beauty is not going to find a missing woman!! Tell that to the families of sooooo many victims of various crimes against women that "ohh well shoot, she was fat & ugly, I dont believe anyone would hurt her"...
She wasnt some super model or something.. She is a child of God.. She is missing.. Her looks shouldnt matter at all!!!!!!

Jenkins is the only one who has consistently and inappropriately made comments about her physical appearance and "attributes".
it's a red flag.

SnowyB wrote:

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hi, Habs -
Jenkins argues away from and around the probable impact of Maura's choices, and mitigates the actions she took that were known to be problems in her life.
Jenkins did not know Maura, nor does anyone here, except perhaps for one person on this forum.
indeed, she was packed to leave....not to stay.
where was she going? with whom? why so suddenly?
the Vasi hit is a plausible reason for leaving.
i don't blame Scarinza for anything; Denver couldn't handle Jon Benet Ramsey very well, and her relatively minor car accident / slide off the road didn't present as missing person / abduction / homicide.
you overlook the ravages of the wild / the forest. i'm not convinced she didn't run into the woods and perished in attempting to evade someone. the police?
i trust Wowzer, for one, has absolutely no fear about the place she calls home....she's told us so.
i also believe any speculation / opinion / theory is a wild shot in the dark, given there are so few facts.
you may be correct....someone else may be correct....but we have our opinions. no harm can come from them, except when innocents are accused of harming / abducting / killing MM.

Ty for your thoughts.

Emmett Dove wrote:

dont "kill the fat & ugly girls"... That was mean & yes people kill anyone.. Looks isnt a factor in most murders.. Looks is just an outward appearance.. On my 1'st tour in Iraq, I was told & learned "we are all the same brand in the sand", which was and is Very true!!! Ive seen the 4 seasons of the ID show, & never looked as if someone was "beautiful", I looked at facts & victims!! Every guy likes different style women & im quite positive she wasnt EVERY mans type!!!!! we are all beautiful in our own ways.. But Beauty is not going to find a missing woman!! Tell that to the families of sooooo many victims of various crimes against women that "ohh well shoot, she was fat & ugly, I dont believe anyone would hurt her"...
She wasnt some super model or something.. She is a child of God.. She is missing.. Her looks shouldnt matter at all!!!!!!

It didn't come into my head whether I thought she was good looking or not either, Emmett. Plus if it's an opportunist crime then it certainly wouldn't matter what she looked like.

I like your quote about the sand. My brother is in the army and may be off to Afghanistan soon. I think he'd agree with it too.

Without knowing the area very well, would there have been any parents with their children driving home from ski trip that passed the accident site? I'm sure it been well gone over but I missed it.

jenkins wrote:

This is exactly why my GF has a trainedd German Shepherd protection dog that we registered with the national service dog registry so he can go anywhere she goes, even on aitplanes, and doesn't leave her side and she carries a can of pepper spray that can shoot 20' in her purse always, because sick fucks like this exist and they do prey on pretty women. It's scary, it really is.

"Fido clearly attack this man, just think about it and I said attack and if I say attack you should attack. Really really think about it Fido I said attack"

Cervidae wrote:

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It didn't come into my head whether I thought she was good looking or not either, Emmett. Plus if it's an opportunist crime then it certainly wouldn't matter what she looked like.
I like your quote about the sand. My brother is in the army and may be off to Afghanistan soon. I think he'd agree with it too.

No no according to jenkins the answer to this case is in her dimples.

Jenkins wrote:

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So really the only thing she would've had to figure out would be to use her sister's name, which would be pretty easy to figure if she had ever been pulled over without her license on her.
Now think if she had a man to help her, forget about it. She was hot, she could find a man to take care of her in about 2 seconds if she wanted to. Ever since I learned she spent new years '09 in Goshen,NH ive wondered if maybe she met a guy at the new years party. Maybe she really fell for this guy, maybe he really fell for her & she just wanted to get away, maybe they truly fell for each other, either way there's a real lot of guys who wouldn't mind a beautiful young girl moving in their house.
Think how easy it could've been for her to dissapear if she moved in with a guy who already had everything in his name, so easy. Then what if he's one of the kind of guys that goes to work, comes home & woke on his car or watches a little tv, but never ever turns on the news or looks at newspapers. He might not even know she's missing, he just thinks he's got some cool hot chick living with him and it's awesome.
Honestly this Is what i hope happened to Maura, that would be so cool if she actually pulled it off. Im not saying this is what i think haopen but i think the chances of this are way higher than her being either suicidal or a complete idiot w:ho died trying to hide in the woods in february in nh. Who's stupid enough to hide in the woods after running 10 miles into the wilderness? She just didnt seem suicidal either.. If anything maybe she was mad at her family & her bf, her dad was a control freak, he probably was way more angry than he says when she came back to the hotel room with his car smashed, he was probably wicked mean to her, her bf cheated on her with her sisters best friend, & she received a call, that was supposedly from her sister, that brought her to tears so bad she had to be escorted back to her room. Maybe her family was being mean to her and she said f em all, I'm out. Think about it, that's just the stuff we Know about, who knows what the hell happened that we don't know about.
Bottom line, she expressed interest in dissapearing before in her life and there had already been one time in her life that all her friends were looking for her because they thought she was missing. She never expressed suicidal thoughts and she didn't seem like the worlds stupidest girl, I think it's more likely that she ran off and started a new life than she got lost in the woods.
Are we all writing this off too easily because we think it's way harder to disappear in this day and age than it really is.

whoa!!! this blew me away at the time....and, again, today.....no boundaries.
fantasize much?

"Now think if she had a man to help her, forget about it. She was hot, she could find a man to take care of her in about 2 seconds if she wanted to. Ever since I learned she spent new years '09 in Goshen,NH ive wondered if maybe she met a guy at the new years party. Maybe she really fell for this guy, maybe he really fell for her & she just wanted to get away, maybe they truly fell for each other, either way there's a real lot of guys who wouldn't mind a beautiful young girl moving in their house."

Habs wrote:

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Ty for your thoughts.

and for yours, as well.

Jenkins wrote:

Honestly you can see better at night once your eyes adjust to the darkness than you can with a flashlight, unless it's a really really strong flashlight. Especially if there's snow on the ground and a full moon.
Was it a full moon? Either way she def could've seen well enough to run or walk up 112 that night, only question would be why.
Who would possibly choose to run east when it's 17 miles to civilization? Even if she disnt know that when she started she would've past a mileage signs alerting her to the fact that she had a really long way to go.
Makes even less sense, way less sense to say that she would've ran 6 miles up into kinsman notch and them go trouncing into the woods through 2'+ of snow. If she had made it 6-10 moles away from the crash she would've been so happy she didnt get caight while DUI. Who then runs into the woods to kill herself?
I think the only logical explanation is that she caight a ride at the crash site.
She was a beautiful young girl, pretty much any driver on the road would be fine with giving her a ride.
Does everyone realize how easy it is for a pretty young girl to catch a ride? Particularly at night in February.

more....red flagging
not ugly, fat girls, just pretty ones.

"I think the only logical explanation is that she caight a ride at the crash site.
She was a beautiful young girl, pretty much any driver on the road would be fine with giving her a ride.
Does everyone realize how easy it is for a pretty young girl to catch a ride? Particularly at night in February."

jenkins wrote:

Oh shnap! You guys got me!
Apparently one time, many months ago I did say she was hot. Only problem with what you guys are saying is that you make it out like I constantly say that or omething, like I'm constantly saying this missing and likely murdered girl is hot, which couldn't be further from the truth. She was beautiful but I'm sorry but I can't think of a dead girl as hot, that's just disturbing.
The only reason I said that was to make a point, the point being that she is the exact kind of girl that these sick fucks that kill women want to kill. They don't want to kill tthe fat and ugly girls, they wanna kill a hot girl, the girls that never spoke to them when they were younger, the girls that they could never get as a GF. ALthought they probably could''ve if they weren't so damn weird. insread of recognizing that maybe they're the problem, not the girls but themselves, they blaim the girl and develop a deep hatred for pretty girls, it's rather disturbing.
That post I made back then makes sense and I stand by it, and I still didn't say that I thought she was hot, like I'd wanna get with her or something disgusting like that, the was that Snowy is making it out like, insread I was talking about how these killers have a hatred of hot girls and that maura could be desctibed as hot. She was a beautiful girll, the exact kind of girl some sicko would love to see walking alone on the side of the rd in the middle of winer in NH, it's fkn scary.
This is exactly why my GF has a trainedd German Shepherd protection dog that we registered with the national service dog registry so he can go anywhere she goes, even on aitplanes, and doesn't leave her side and she carries a can of pepper spray that can shoot 20' in her purse always, because sick fucks like this exist and they do prey on pretty women. It's scary, it really is.
So wow snowy,, i'm impressed, you managed to completely misconstrue ONE post that I made months ago, you want a prize or something? How about a cookie with your name on it?
I descrived her as hot ONCE in a compltely different conext than me saying I think she's hot, so you're still full of shit.
The fact is that his doesn't change the fact that you're a iar snowy, and your group of misfit trolls are bad people. It's sad that people like you exist in this world, truly sad. You're a troll on a thread about a missing and likely murdered girl, now THAT is disgusting.
What happened? You guys got pissed that I was actually talking about the case so you had to conspirre together to come up with something, anything that would make me shut up about the face hat the SBD LIED about the events of that night and that in all likelihood Maura was murered and that even the NHSP believe she wwas a victim of foul play? This is just clasic, you guy just HAVE to come up with something to get me off topic, fkn sas state of affairs

Naturally, once again Jenkins completely ignores that I posted one of his "hot" quotes, followed by another separate quote posted by Snowy.

That makes TWO posts in which he called her hot.

So, no, Snowy isn't lying, but Jenkins is.

But it's not just "hot," it's the way he almost always includes adjectives to describe her looks, or her "innocence" or youth. Many of us are tired of it (among all the other things we're tired of) and many of us find it very creepy.