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Tang Zoi wrote:

<quoted text> Hope You are CHILLIN...Frosty..!
Agree....NO REAL evidence was taken from saturn other than contents, airbags and towel from tailpipe.
Rooney is still alive....would be interesting to know IF He has been questioned. His name was given to NHSP, VTSP and FBI.

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SnowyB wrote:

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Emmett, just so you know, the comments Jenkins makes about Maura are considered to be, at least in a workplace environment, Sexual Harassment. of course, you are free to say what you like, but in this and in similar circumstances, there are consequences for speaking and / or acting on those inappropriate comments.

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jenkins wrote:

Emmett you're right, anyone can fall victim to an oppurtunistic predator and that's been shown throughout the years to be true.
But the fact of the matter is that there is a higher percentage of pretty girls who fall prey to these sick fucks than ugly girls, sad but true.
These sickos develp weird hatred toward pretty girls bc they never talked to them, or they wouldn't dance with them at dances in middle school, or whatever sick delustions these people have developed in their mind.
So while you are right that any woman can fall prety to a killer, killers often have a specfic look that they are looking for,, a certain body type, hair color, something that triggers them to make them do these sick things.
And IDK, I haven't watched much TV in the last year so haven't really seen mmany of the newer ID dissapeared show but the majority of the girls who are missing on that show are good looking. Whether or not someone would consider them 'hot' is debateable but most of the girls I've seen on that show are good looking.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Most of my comemnts are now in jest. I have come to certain conclusions and decided to take this forum with a grain of salt. I was just teasing you and usually you laugh back so I just think its time for me to stop teasing you. I'm sorry. I'm not here to piss you off.

jenkins wrote:

Oh shnap! You guys got me!
Apparently one time, many months ago I did say she was hot. Only problem with what you guys are saying is that you make it out like I constantly say that or omething, like I'm constantly saying this missing and likely murdered girl is hot, which couldn't be further from the truth. She was beautiful but I'm sorry but I can't think of a dead girl as hot, that's just disturbing.
The only reason I said that was to make a point, the point being that she is the exact kind of girl that these sick fucks that kill women want to kill. They don't want to kill tthe fat and ugly girls, they wanna kill a hot girl, the girls that never spoke to them when they were younger, the girls that they could never get as a GF. ALthought they probably could''ve if they weren't so damn weird. insread of recognizing that maybe they're the problem, not the girls but themselves, they blaim the girl and develop a deep hatred for pretty girls, it's rather disturbing.
That post I made back then makes sense and I stand by it, and I still didn't say that I thought she was hot, like I'd wanna get with her or something disgusting like that, the was that Snowy is making it out like, insread I was talking about how these killers have a hatred of hot girls and that maura could be desctibed as hot. She was a beautiful girll, the exact kind of girl some sicko would love to see walking alone on the side of the rd in the middle of winer in NH, it's fkn scary.
This is exactly why my GF has a trainedd German Shepherd protection dog that we registered with the national service dog registry so he can go anywhere she goes, even on aitplanes, and doesn't leave her side and she carries a can of pepper spray that can shoot 20' in her purse always, because sick fucks like this exist and they do prey on pretty women. It's scary, it really is.
So wow snowy,, i'm impressed, you managed to completely misconstrue ONE post that I made months ago, you want a prize or something? How about a cookie with your name on it?
I descrived her as hot ONCE in a compltely different conext than me saying I think she's hot, so you're still full of shit.
The fact is that his doesn't change the fact that you're a iar snowy, and your group of misfit trolls are bad people. It's sad that people like you exist in this world, truly sad. You're a troll on a thread about a missing and likely murdered girl, now THAT is disgusting.
What happened? You guys got pissed that I was actually talking about the case so you had to conspirre together to come up with something, anything that would make me shut up about the face hat the SBD LIED about the events of that night and that in all likelihood Maura was murered and that even the NHSP believe she wwas a victim of foul play? This is just clasic, you guy just HAVE to come up with something to get me off topic, fkn sas state of affairs

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mcsmom wrote:

...Published 2/19/04
Fred Murray and his son returned to the motel last night after spending much of the day combing the snowy woods in the White Mountains National Forest not far from the Haverhill site where Maura was last seen. Her father said he followed boot prints over about a half-mile of rugged terrain before he saw a clear enough print to determine that they had been made by boots larger that his daughter's size 8è shoes...
I wonder if these prints were missed by Scarinza from the helicopter searches?
Also, CS said he saw one set of prints leading from the car.
Is it possible Maura had on her Army boots and not the "bowling" shoes/sneakers Sharon described?

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jenkins wrote:

Oh shnap! You guys got me!
Apparently one time, many months ago I did say she was hot. Only problem with what you guys are saying is that you make it out like I constantly say that or omething, like I'm constantly saying this missing and likely murdered girl is hot, which couldn't be further from the truth. She was beautiful but I'm sorry but I can't think of a dead girl as hot, that's just disturbing.
The only reason I said that was to make a point, the point being that she is the exact kind of girl that these sick fucks that kill women want to kill. They don't want to kill tthe fat and ugly girls, they wanna kill a hot girl, the girls that never spoke to them when they were younger, the girls that they could never get as a GF. ALthought they probably could''ve if they weren't so damn weird. insread of recognizing that maybe they're the problem, not the girls but themselves, they blaim the girl and develop a deep hatred for pretty girls, it's rather disturbing.
That post I made back then makes sense and I stand by it, and I still didn't say that I thought she was hot, like I'd wanna get with her or something disgusting like that, the was that Snowy is making it out like, insread I was talking about how these killers have a hatred of hot girls and that maura could be desctibed as hot. She was a beautiful girll, the exact kind of girl some sicko would love to see walking alone on the side of the rd in the middle of winer in NH, it's fkn scary.
This is exactly why my GF has a trainedd German Shepherd protection dog that we registered with the national service dog registry so he can go anywhere she goes, even on aitplanes, and doesn't leave her side and she carries a can of pepper spray that can shoot 20' in her purse always, because sick fucks like this exist and they do prey on pretty women. It's scary, it really is.
So wow snowy,, i'm impressed, you managed to completely misconstrue ONE post that I made months ago, you want a prize or something? How about a cookie with your name on it?
I descrived her as hot ONCE in a compltely different conext than me saying I think she's hot, so you're still full of shit.
The fact is that his doesn't change the fact that you're a iar snowy, and your group of misfit trolls are bad people. It's sad that people like you exist in this world, truly sad. You're a troll on a thread about a missing and likely murdered girl, now THAT is disgusting.
What happened? You guys got pissed that I was actually talking about the case so you had to conspirre together to come up with something, anything that would make me shut up about the face hat the SBD LIED about the events of that night and that in all likelihood Maura was murered and that even the NHSP believe she wwas a victim of foul play? This is just clasic, you guy just HAVE to come up with something to get me off topic, fkn sas state of affairs

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Fred Garvin wrote:

Are there any breeding populations of large cats in that area?

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Frostman wrote:

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. I always wondered if the perp slipped Maura a fast-acting date-rape drug at a local gas station and then stalked her in Red Truck knowing she would crash out along Route 112.

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SnowyB wrote:

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whoa!!! this blew me away at the time....and, again, today.....no boundaries.
fantasize much?
"Now think if she had a man to help her, forget about it. She was hot, she could find a man to take care of her in about 2 seconds if she wanted to. Ever since I learned she spent new years '09 in Goshen,NH ive wondered if maybe she met a guy at the new years party. Maybe she really fell for this guy, maybe he really fell for her & she just wanted to get away, maybe they truly fell for each other, either way there's a real lot of guys who wouldn't mind a beautiful young girl moving in their house."

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Fred Garvin wrote:

Are there any breeding populations of large cats in that area?

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jenkins wrote:

<quoted text> hey frosty- I don't really think that's too viable a theory due to the fact that the SBD said that she didn't look intoxicated and the witnesses describe her walking around her vvehicle, going back and torth to the trunk, and none of them say anything about he looking like she was intoxicated by any substance.But then we have the rag in her tailpipe. It's been overlooked by so many for so long I just can't get it out of my head that the rag might be the key to all of this. Two different mechanics, both very experienced were interviewed in relation to this and they both said that a rag could be a great way to stall out a vehicle. I spoke to a friend of mine who is an expert mechanic and he said the same exact thing, he also said that a car with a rag n it's tailpipe will run for a few milees but will be running way too rich, bc it can't exhaust ALL of it's fumes and eventually will stall out. He said it can be anywhere from like 3 minutes up to like 10, depending on if the car has anything wrong with it. They say her car was running only on 3 cyleinders, which isn't exactly true but he said that on saturns of that time frame they had bad valves, which would cause the motor to not have good compression in one of the cylinderss, which is probably what they meant by running on only 3 cylinders. Well this is exactly one of the problems that would make a car run on the longer end of things with a rag in the tailpipe.
I've often wondered if this is why the red truck wasn't looking past the store where RO went to, he didn't think the car would be able to make it as far as the WB curve with a rag in the tailpipe.
We also have some indications that her car actually did stall out BEFORE the corner and that is what actually caused the accident, as opposted to spinning out after the curve. This actually makes much more sense in regards to the damage done to her car. If she spun out after the curve the front left should've been the least likely to get damaged, but that is the only place on the car there is really damage. It looks to me like her car stalled out, causiing her to look down ar the das, which lights up like a xmas tree if your motor stalls, then she probably looked up and was headed straight for the bank on the other side of the rd. She then hit the bank with her front right, wich would've cause her ass end to spin out to the riight, she spun around and ended up ass end into the snowbank on the other side of the rd. She then probably got it to start up again so she could back it so she was facing the wrong way.Bottom line is that a rag can be used to stall a motor and we have some evidence indicating that her car did infact stall out before the curve. THen we also have someone who appears to have been looking for her, almost as if they knew her car was going to stall out.
IMO this could be the key to the case. Maybe instead of drugging her, they 'drugged' her car, so to speak, knowing that it would stall so they could then come upon her looking like a hero there to save the day. This is a very possible scenario and definitely COULD have happened. This wouldn't be the first time someone disabled someone's car in order to gain an advantage on the person, it's happened before,, it is possible. But we have people on here, like Bill for example, who say it's impossible to stall a car with a rag. IDK about you but I'm gonna trust the opinion of two seperate expert mechanics who've spoken on the record regarding this over some random anonymous weirdo from the internet who says it's impossible. It IS possible and it very well could be the answer to what happened to MM.

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Jenkins wrote:

We have 2 definite weirdos that were dangerous just travelling the roads in that area basically just looking for trouble, all they did was fuck with people.
Again, seems like the exact kind of people that would b able to scare the sbd into not talking.
Also the kind of people that could easily have gotten Maura into a car in 2 seconds without any Kid if fight, just had to tell her to get in. These r the exact kind of people that have an extensive knowledge of the area and LE search techniques so they would know how to hide a body so it'll never get found except by dumb luck.
They must have heard it om their scanner they were right there, they would've been coming from the east too, which must have been maura's route of travel if she did leave on foot. What it they headed over right after the BOL was put out at 7:50?? CW claims he saw her about 8 give or take...takes a little over 10 mins to get down to where 112 meets 116 if yur driving wicked fast, prob a little longer. But that would place someone coming from Franconia that left at 7:50, when the BOL was issued, to where Maura was a little after 8, 5 miles into the wilderness. In winter freezing her ass, I'm sure her feet were wet and frozen..at that point she prob would've gotten in the car w anyone right? But think; how about If it's a cop? or someone pretending to b a cop? also pretending he didn't hear that call about a girl who left the scene of an accident. Hes just a nice cop offering her a ride.
Would seem like if you EVER thought about abducting a girl, right then and there would be the most perfect opportunity ever, you have a beautiful young girl who's already been reported missing, u just heard a Bol for her 10 minutes ago. Idk, think about it. To the right weirdo that's a once in a lifetime opportunity. To me it almost makes more sense than Fred did it. IMHO these guys were sick fucks, they weren't just yur run of the mill asshole "good-ol boy" cops. There's some stories about these guys u wouldn't believe. They seem like exactly the kind of guys that might jump at that opportunity, they think: omg, we got a hot young girl drunk in the middle of nowhere on 112 who's already being looked for. Let's go pick her up. I could go on about this, These guys really piss me off; that people like this could ever exist in the "real world" as bill likes to call it is just beyond me.
I'm not saying this is what happened but u really need to look at things like this from all angles. There's some people on here that r convinced Fred didn't do it bc he's her dad and he's sad; and a cop didnt do it bc they're the cops...well that's not good enough. I don't think we should peg everyone as a suspect, clearly smith did nothing wrong. But if there's a rogue cop and his scumbag buddy that was known to basically prowl the area and fuck with people, u need to look at them. They wouldve heard the Bol. If we believe the CW the last place she was seen was 5 miles up rt 112@ 8, well they would've gotten there about 8:05 if coming from Franconia so that seems like it makes sense, no other cars report seeing her after 8, that's the latest. All angles here, all angles

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Fred Garvin wrote:

Frostman - yes. I'm curious because on a radio program it was discussed that numerous disappearances of young people and children that either completely disappear or are found later in bizarre places, could be attributed to large cats that are creeping back into areas, but government is unwilling to acknowledge it.because the populations are not substantial enough.