Maura Murray

Euroobserver wrote:

Since Maura most likely had been drinking alcohol on her way from Amherst MA, up north, she was quite clearly unwilling to await the likely arrival of LE at her car on Rte 112 near the Weathered Barn curve.
Apparently, she asked Mr Atwood - the school bus driver - not to call police and told him that she already had called AAA,despite - from what I´ve read - very bad to non-existent cellphone coverage in the area in question.
She also did not knock on the door of any of the houses nearby.
The impression is - IMHO - that Maura wished to get away from her car as soon as possible, in order not to have to face the arrival of the police.
Is it therefore likely that she willingly would have entered a LE vehicle at this point, as hinted at as a possibility in some posts here?
Most probably not, considering the circumstances.
Would she have been willing to take the chance of getting a ride from a passer-by in, perhaps, a red pick-up truck?
Quite possibly yes.
Having for a long time been hoping against all reason that Maura might be alive and well and living a new life with a new identity, I now very much fear that something terrible most likely happened to her when she quite possibly entered an unknown vehicle on Rte 112.
It´s now been seven long years, after all.

Hi,
Do cell phones work within a certain radius,local calls, a few miles? I keep reading the SBD's comments he'd made that he knew of the problem if attempting to call outside of the area. Thanks.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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First, let me say that it was SBD who said that he could understand Maura not wanting to catch a ride with him as his appearance might intimidate her.
Second, you seem to want to disregard that she wants to escape the area. She doesn't go to homes because that isn't far enough. Her goal, her only goal is escape. She would have gotten into ANYONES's vehicle who didn't physically spit venom at her. And no, I have never thought that she was kidnapped from that area. And again, as a last thought, where the dogs lost her scent may have nothing to do with where the car that picked her up, actually was located.
Bill

Hi Bill,
I "disregard" that she wanted to escape the area? I'm not a detective, Bill, but in my opinion.........I cannot think of why she might have wanted to sit in a cold car for hours, possibly all night. Venom? No...she would not have climbed into any car. She had, in fact, rejected an offer of help from SBD. When she'd mentioned that she'd phoned AAA. I'm wondering if she might have called someone else...someone in the area (not AAA)? This is why specific times provided by all parties would be great to have. Someone said she'd left the highway shortly after 7 p.m., the SBD or his spouse called the accident in at 7:29 p.m., the Haverhill officer arrived at 7:46 p.m. So possibly if she had phoned someone during the time period between when the Saturn went off the road, and when the SBD spoke with her we'd have a better idea what may have happened to her (maybe). Did the nearby residents still see her down by the car AFTER the SBD drove away? If they did not see her after that time, let's assume it took someone approximately l/2 hour at the latest to arrive at the scene after she phoned them (nothing had shown up on her phone bill?)... Maybe someone had called her. So considering road conditions, and a time-frame of one-half hour based on info above, it would be possible to identify a radius of a certain number of miles around the accident scene from which someone may have driven to pick Maura up. Her knowing that someone would be picking her up shortly, may have been a reason for her rejecting SBD's help.

Bill,
I KNOW your next question. Call someone in the area? Who would she know? She'd been spending time in Bartlett, Lincoln...Jigger Johnson Campground for several years. It would seem reasonable to assume she knew several people in the area. Someone may have even followed her from Amherst in there car and maybe had been 20 minutes or so behind her in their car. She knew they'd be by soon. It always seemed strange she'd leave Amherst in a car that was running on 3 cylinders and not mechanically sound without a backup plan.

Bill,
SBD may have described his appearance as intimidating, but B. Atwood also made a similar statement regarding SBD's appearance. It appears in "Maura Murray Missing, Part 2- The Accident (on Facebook) and mentions this same statement appearing in the Patriot Ledger (statement made by B. Atwood regarding SBD's appearance as intimidating and why).

your questions and supposition reveal nothing new; just rehash. why are you so obsessed with Maura Murray? are you related to her?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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You almost got it right. Unfortunately, your thinking takes a wicked right hand turn into "fantasy" land where you say "she must have had a reason to trust..."
Nothing could be further from the truth. Once she knew the cops were coming and she decided to run, she could have gotten into anyone's car that came by. She did the basic math. One road in, one road out and that road is 25 miles in length, its cold and dark. She likely thought, I need a ride. That person was Maura's target of opportunity.
Bill

Bill,
Seriously, do you believe Maura would have climbed into a car with a stranger, especially one she did not trust? Maybe at gun point. Otherwise, no. I do not believe a gun was involved even though one may have been available. People for some reason are trusting this guy....all except Pamela W. She apparently for some reason became aware of this guy's intent almost immediately. In my opinion, this predator eventually does kill them, but his weapon of choice appears to be a knife, not a gun. Let's not also forget that he seems to have a passion for strangulation. This of course is based on hx of unsolved murders of females in that area. He initially relies on his presentation and people skills; he then relies on use of knife and/or strangulation. In my opinion, until a certain point in the ride, his victims believe nothing is wrong. They fully trust him and feel safe, at least initially, for some reason.

Snowy wrote:

your questions and supposition reveal nothing new; just rehash. why are you so obsessed with Maura Murray? are you related to her?

You might describe me as being obsessed. However, not with MM. What I'm drawn toward, obsessed(?) with in this case, is the network? colleagues? group? of people who may be intentionally protecting someone by portraying MM as the "bad" girl rather than a possible victim. Initially, their joint efforts seemed to be some kind of effort to gather information. Now, however, I'm beginning to believe that their united efforts might be for the purpose of protecting someone. Snowy, don't worry about who I am. Given some of your comments, your interests might be best served by self reflection.

And God said let there be light. And there was light. And God, who always had eyes, even though light did not exist, saw that it was good.

rozShoem wrote:

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You might describe me as being obsessed. However, not with MM. What I'm drawn toward, obsessed(?) with in this case, is the network? colleagues? group? of people who may be intentionally protecting someone by portraying MM as the "bad" girl rather than a possible victim. Initially, their joint efforts seemed to be some kind of effort to gather information. Now, however, I'm beginning to believe that their united efforts might be for the purpose of protecting someone. Snowy, don't worry about who I am. Given some of your comments, your interests might be best served by self reflection.

Maura drank alcohol. Drank, drank drank, drank drank. Drinking and driving. Accidents galore. Parties. Driving at all hours of the night. Sleeping with military men. Bad, bad Maura.

i further suggest full-time employment might limit your copious posts and the annoyance factor.
that said, most posters do not/did not know MM. do you?
there is no need to defend or defame her. comments only surmise what might have occurred based on very few facts.
it is, after all, beating a dead horse.

rozShoem wrote:

Bill,
SBD may have described his appearance as intimidating, but B. Atwood also made a similar statement regarding SBD's appearance. It appears in "Maura Murray Missing, Part 2- The Accident (on Facebook) and mentions this same statement appearing in the Patriot Ledger (statement made by B. Atwood regarding SBD's appearance as intimidating and why).

She was driving drunk. Its irresponsible. Someones baby could have died.

What if Maura decided to become a prostitute? Its better money then nursing. No one would care if she drank.

Why did Maura drink so much? Why was she such a drunk drinker?

rozShoem wrote:

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Hi,
Do cell phones work within a certain radius,local calls, a few miles? I keep reading the SBD's comments he'd made that he knew of the problem if attempting to call outside of the area. Thanks.

No one cares. Maura was drunk. She was probably eating a tobaccey sandwich for lunch.

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Yeah maybe perhaps not quite almost do dew run run.

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When people drive drunk, they don't notice when babies crawl into the street.
We can't let them kill our babies.

Stop killing babies Rozzie.

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