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BillNH wrote:
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I agree with your conclusion. I hate to catch someone like frmLE in an error, his facts are usually spot on but what he was saying did not match what I was reading.
I'm thinking there is more to the law. Every Tom Dick and Harry would leave their car at the side of the road if they crashed drunk. They would sober up and come back after the fact.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:
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I'm thinking there is more to the law. Every Tom Dick and Harry would leave their car at the side of the road if they crashed drunk. They would sober up and come back after the fact.
No doubt. There are probably other laws that apply and I wouldn't know any of them. However, everyone jumped behind this one specific law that deals with conduct after an accident, including frmLE. What I lack in knowledge of the law I make up for in being able to get through legal-speak fairly well.

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Jenkins wrote:
It's a common known fact most cops actually DON'T know the laws they're sworn to enforce, ask any lawyer & they will confirm this, both defense attorneys and state's attorneys alike. It's actually a problem many prosecutors have with prosecuting cases, the charging officer just doesn't know the law.
Jenkins - do you realize how many laws their are for "cops" to enforce? You don't understand that even good attorneys when presented with a question most of the time have to go back and reread a law. Just because a lawyer passes the BAR doesn't mean he knows every law. Also FYI I'm pretty sure that "cops" can call in a question if they need to verify a law as well.

Here is another tidbit that even judges check the law to make sure they are giving the right verdict in cases where they don't see certain laws come up often. And sometimes even after they reread the law another judge overturns their decision because they think the other judge misinterpreted it.

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BillNH wrote:
What I lack in knowledge of the law I make up for in being able to get through legal-speak fairly well.
My sister's, boyfriend's, aunt's (who we oringinally thought was twice removed, but turns out is only once removed) neighbor's hairstylist's step father has the last name kennedy. Trust me we are close family. I can have any law questions answered.

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I cant wait till tuesday when I can actually argue my points again..

What part do people not get that she had Military Training??
" " probation
" " been troubled
" " been in trouble
" " was slick enough with CCs

As a Vet, the training one recieves at WP, even if she was only there 2 months, IS way superior to what the agerage person recieves... Do yall know how hard it is to get into WP? High intellgence, athletic, can take intense stress (ahe had to pass her Psyc, AIM, Army Alpha, IT, PS, etc; test), can tolerate pain, abuse, can achieve high endurance in tramua, etc etc etc..

She could have made it MILES away, EASILY!
Add in Cross Country RECORD HOLDER - you have a formula for escape
Yea, she broke down from a phone call, but in "fight or flight" mode, no matter what, usually your BT kicks in..
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i wouldn't rush to bag FrmLE. it is, after all, the interpretation and application of the law that matters.
as some have suggested, it is an oversimplification to apply only one standard in the form of a general statement to Maura's suspected actions.
had she not gone missing, the presence of alcohol in combination with yet another vehicular accident would, at the very least, raise the bar for her having to take responsibility for her father's property.
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Hi all,Mr.Renner has a couple of new posts up.Take care phiip

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Snowy wrote:
i wouldn't rush to bag FrmLE. it is, after all, the interpretation and application of the law that matters.
as some have suggested, it is an oversimplification to apply only one standard in the form of a general statement to Maura's suspected actions.
had she not gone missing, the presence of alcohol in combination with yet another vehicular accident would, at the very least, raise the bar for her having to take responsibility for her father's property.
I, for one, was not trying to 'bag' frmLE. I respect his knowledge in matters concerning the law and law enforcement. The law referenced did not support his argument, that was my only point. I thought seeing the post from someone other than Jenkins would at least give him pause to reevaluate his position. The desire to oppose your antagonizer sometimes outweighs all else. If anyone took my agreement that Jenkins was correct on this one tiny matter as "bagging" frmLE, then their interpretation and application of my post was incorrect.

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BillNH wrote:
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I, for one, was not trying to 'bag' frmLE. I respect his knowledge in matters concerning the law and law enforcement. The law referenced did not support his argument, that was my only point. I thought seeing the post from someone other than Jenkins would at least give him pause to reevaluate his position. The desire to oppose your antagonizer sometimes outweighs all else. If anyone took my agreement that Jenkins was correct on this one tiny matter as "bagging" frmLE, then their interpretation and application of my post was incorrect.
i do understand the literal onterpretation would favor jenkins' position, but the application of a law with addt'l evidence may, indeed, support FMR's position that violations occurred. "bagged" might not be the right word. lol
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as an aside, citizen jenkins' attitude about "dealing with the cops" and "pain in the a**" cops is ignorant and disrespectful, imo. it's hard to ignore.

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BillNH wrote:
The desire to oppose your antagonizer sometimes outweighs all else.
Bill - its not about opposing your antagonizer it is understanding who he is. Look at your family tree chances are there is a branch with a knot on it. It is your cousin's, cousin's,couin's cousin. Thats Jenkins the tree limb with the knot on it. He's (k)Not right -(k)not now (k)not then (k)not ever. In cases like this I'm understanding of tree prunning and deforrestation.

Like Eddie Mush from a Bronx Tale - any bet he makes Mush always loses, and in this case any argument Jenkins makes its never accurate.

Its what FRMLE said its the "forum jenkins" that is perceived this way. In real life Jenkins could be different, but on this forum Jenkins posts nonsense. Post after post filling in points based off of no real logic. Its not even worth investigating what jenkins says because he is always wrong. Thats what happens when you want to post contrary just to be contrary.
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much respect for J Renner's persistence.

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Snowy wrote:
i wouldn't rush to bag FrmLE. it is, after all, the interpretation and application of the law that matters.
as some have suggested, it is an oversimplification to apply only one standard in the form of a general statement to Maura's suspected actions.
had she not gone missing, the presence of alcohol in combination with yet another vehicular accident would, at the very least, raise the bar for her having to take responsibility for her father's property.
Thanks for reminding me with that last sentence, Snowy. FrmLE is correct after all. The damaged Saturn was property of FM at the time of the accident, NOT MM, whom was just the registree.
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Thanks for reminding me with that last sentence, Snowy. FrmLE is correct after all. The damaged Saturn was property of FM at the time of the accident, NOT MM, whom was just the registree.
yes, absolutely.
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Julie said Fred was the best father a girl could ever have.
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Lighthouse 101 wrote:
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Bill - its not about opposing your antagonizer it is understanding who he is. Look at your family tree chances are there is a branch with a knot on it. It is your cousin's, cousin's,couin's cousin. Thats Jenkins the tree limb with the knot on it. He's (k)Not right -(k)not now (k)not then (k)not ever. In cases like this I'm understanding of tree prunning and deforrestation.
Like Eddie Mush from a Bronx Tale - any bet he makes Mush always loses, and in this case any argument Jenkins makes its never accurate.
Its what FRMLE said its the "forum jenkins" that is perceived this way. In real life Jenkins could be different, but on this forum Jenkins posts nonsense. Post after post filling in points based off of no real logic. Its not even worth investigating what jenkins says because he is always wrong. Thats what happens when you want to post contrary just to be contrary.
the (k)not is nearly poetic. ;) thx for the creativity applied to a very frustrating theme.
it's not that some of us are impatient or vindictive...not at all. BillNH may have to reach his own saturation level.
i miss Ridiculous. hope he will return.
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So how did Patrick end up where he was found? Was he carried there? If so, by who? someone would have to be pretty strong to carry someone to such an altitude.
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Pointless Endeavor wrote:
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Thanks for reminding me with that last sentence, Snowy. FrmLE is correct after all. The damaged Saturn was property of FM at the time of the accident, NOT MM, whom was just the registree.
The car was owned by Fred and registered in His name. Maura's name was not anywhere on the paperwork for the car

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Pointless Endeavor wrote:
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Thanks for reminding me with that last sentence, Snowy. FrmLE is correct after all. The damaged Saturn was property of FM at the time of the accident, NOT MM, whom was just the registree.
On what issue is he correct after all?
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Zip Tie wrote:
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The car was owned by Fred and registered in His name. Maura's name was not anywhere on the paperwork for the car
Zippy
Couldn't stay away could you columbo, K-9, tang zoi, zippy? Are you bored because FmrLe won't play with you?

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