Maura Murray

BillNH wrote:

Hi Hanna. Just one comment for now on your post. I did look up the current School of Nursing rules a short while back. As it stood, with the CC fraud being tossed after 3 months she would have been OK. If there was a conviction it would have been difficult, not impossible. If there was something else on top of the CC fraud, it would likely be the end. That's my interpretation of the 2012 rule book. Could be different in practice as many things are.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Frankly if Maura was allowed to graduate considering the cc fraud. Assuming that is true. She might not have been allowed to sit for the license test. The board may also have refused to license her. They are pretty strict with criminal activity. Consider how vulnerable people are in the care of nurses and doctors and it shouldn't be a surprise. In CT there is little doubt she would not have been allowed to be a medic, let alone a nurse. I suspect MA is the same as most states. And even if by some miracle they did license her, what hospital would take the risk of a new, untested nurse with a criminal record.
Bill

BillNH wrote:

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The credit card fraud was stayed for 90 days which means she was arrested, the judge set it on the corner of his desk (figuratively) until the 90 days was up. No other problems, it gets torn up and tossed in the trash(dismissed). I read the regulations, if there was nothing else additional, she would have been fine as far as the School of Nursing. Their code of conduct deals with criminal convictions, not arrests. The UMASS rules state that they are the same as off campus laws. So once her 90 days was up, she was clean. I actually read the regulations and how this would have affected her. I could not find anything in either codes of conduct that would have been a major concern for her based on a single dismissed case of minor CC fraud. Again, I don't travel in the nursing circle nor does anyone close to me so there may be some application of the rules that is outside the documented rules, but if that's true...why is it not documented?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I know that there are some that might be able to answer these questions better than me but there are many rules. UMASS has some rules but the state/board has its own set of rules to license her. The hospital will have rules and their insurance companies will as well. Any of these agencies/organizations has the ability to stop her career dead in its tracks. Graduation from nursing school, while not easy, is just the beginning of the journey to work as a nurse. How far these agencies reaches are, I cannot tell you for certain. Can they look at records that are considered sealed or wiped clean, I don't know. Can they get records from places like WP, I'm don't know. I do know that it is common to do criminal history checks. I do know that there are questions asked about criminal history with explanations required for crimes committed on the state application forms. Is she required to mention these crimes even though they might have been wiped from her record, again, I don't know.
Bill

BillNH wrote:

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The credit card fraud was stayed for 90 days which means she was arrested, the judge set it on the corner of his desk (figuratively) until the 90 days was up. No other problems, it gets torn up and tossed in the trash(dismissed). I read the regulations, if there was nothing else additional, she would have been fine as far as the School of Nursing. Their code of conduct deals with criminal convictions, not arrests. The UMASS rules state that they are the same as off campus laws. So once her 90 days was up, she was clean. I actually read the regulations and how this would have affected her. I could not find anything in either codes of conduct that would have been a major concern for her based on a single dismissed case of minor CC fraud. Again, I don't travel in the nursing circle nor does anyone close to me so there may be some application of the rules that is outside the documented rules, but if that's true...why is it not documented?

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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So would a DUI at the WB curve make the credit card fraud stay on her record?

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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So would a DUI at the WB curve make the credit card fraud stay on her record?

hannah_b wrote:

Some tentative answers (and additional questions) to above questions:
- FM was in Amherst to help plan MM´s departure.
- The 4G was to help her disappear.
- Kate M and MM´s secret boyfriend were said to have been at the bar with FM and MM.
- Nothing is known about the party except Sara A were allegedly so intoxicated she passed out and Kate M said she doesn´t remember anything about who was there. Quite young for developping Alzheimer. True or intended to take the heat off of her? Kate M´s male cousin along with KM reportedly accompanied MM back to her dorm. MM is rumored to have been raped at the party.
- MM went to FM´s hotel to tell him something, possibly the alleged rape. Rape victims are known to shower extensively because they feel dirty. Did MM use the shower in FM´s hotel room? Did she shower in her dorm before going to the hotel? That would explain the missing hour before she crashed the Corolla.
- FM might have given her the rumored black eye when he found out about her crashing her new car. He is reported to have a hot temperament.
- FM supposedly got off his work schedule at 11 pm Monday night. MM was supposed to call him at 8 pm to discuss the insurance paperwork. We have also been told he wasn´t able to take private calls at work due to cell phones interfering with medical equipment and such. How was she supposed to reach him?
- According to poster Looking4AMoose who is a RN, Maura´s nursing career was out the window with the cc fraud. The School of Nursing has it´s own set of rules that differ from UMass regulations, and are a lot harsher. Even so, there must have been something bigger to make her take off like she did, and I wonder if it was the Vasi hit. I didn´t originally put much stock in the Vasi theory, but I´ve lately come to find it more likely. What was she going to do about the cc fraud? Probably nothing, I think she had bigger issues in her mind, Vasi or something else.

Snowy wrote:

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lots of detail here. you prob know as much as Renner...except he may be in a position to confirm / verify. or maybe not.
who first suggested a rape occurred? did i miss that piece of info?
Vasi is either highly coincidental or critical to the activity prior to her disappearance.

Snowy wrote:

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most likely. JMO
and, therefore, a motivation not to remain at tbe scene of tbe accident.
is that what you were thinking?

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Lets take it a small step back for something we do know. Would an open container cause reason for the CC FRAUD to stay on her record?
Or maybe it doesn't matter what the law states it just matters what MM was thinking.

BillNH wrote:

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The rape info came from Renner's blog on 4/1 (doubt it was an April fool's joke). The invetigator that worked with Fred the first year Rick Graves. Renner said "There was a rumor that Maura was raped at the dorm party but they've never been able to get the full story from Kate Markopolous or Sara Alfieri." This is apparently gleaned from Renner's interview with Rick. I was surprised Renner posted that bit as it was only a rumor but I suppose the man knows what he is doing, I should not second guess that. My opinion, it was an attempt to loosen lips by letting the cat out of the bag, or he was trying to invoke a response from someone.

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Det Dirtbag wrote:

Because Officer Cecil Smith did not know on Feb. 9 that most or all of the damage to the Saturn’s hood had occurred before the car even left Amherst, he can certainly be excused for thinking all the damage was sustained at the WB curve.
But if UMass PD or Amherst PD knew about the damage early on, wouldn't they have relayed this information to Haverhill PD? If this information was relayed to Haverhill PD, would it be included in the crash report Smith finalized a few days later?