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Yes. Apparently LE doesn´t see Beagle as a POI in the case.
Yes. Apparently so.
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My heart goes out to everyone affected by the Boston tragedy. Good to hear Tang´s daughter is safe. Hope other posters and their loved ones are too. How horrific and cowardly.
So sad and a heart breaking story. So many innocent people hurt and several lives taken. A young and innocent child has lost there life. I keep asking myself why? Why would some one ever want to hurt a child?
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Thank You all for the concern. It is appreciated. You just never know what is going to happen and life is so precious.
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Yes. Apparently LE doesn´t see Beagle as a POI in the case.
This is not necessarily true. How do you know whether or not they consider him a poi or not? Have they ever come out and said that he is or isn't?

LE is under no obligation to tell the public whether or not someone is a poi or a suspect & they generally choose not to make that Info known unless it will bring an advantage to their case. There is no way in hell they would tell the public they think this guy is a suspect unless he is placed under arrest.
At this point they don't have her body, so even If they think he is the suspect, or have evidence indicating that he is, they would never tell the public this. First of all if they told the public this then it would be like admitting that they know who killed her but they're not good enough to catch him, not gonna happen.
Second of all at this point they have this guy who comes online and posts and posts and posts all sorts of crazy shit, if they let on that they think he's a suspect it might spook him an make him stop posting, which would be bad if he was truly responsible. If they don't have her body they're best plan of attack is to just sit back and listen to what the guy has to say and wait for him to make a mistake, maybe reveal somethin that could lead them somewhere. If they spooked him and he shuts up then they might never know what happened. The best thing they can do right now, whether it's Alden or anyone else who killed her, is to pretend that they don't even think a murder happened, let the killer think he got away with it so he might be less careful.
Right now they're waiting for someone to mess up, mess up in such a way that they let out some sort of crucial info that could lead to her body, or maybe mess up somehow so they can obtain a search warrant on a property that they want to search.
The bottom line is that no matter what the cops say we have no clue if they consider Alden, I anyone a suspect unless they arrest someone and we aren't going to know unless they arrest someone. And they won't say anything or arrest Anton until they have her body. Even if there was a strong piece of evdence indication that he killed her without her body they won't have enough for a conviction. They don't want to just arrest someone nd then have to Let them go a year later, that woud be the worst possible thing they could do and they will NEVER do that. Until they have her body & the evidence that comes along with it they will NEVER admit they have a poi or even straight up admi that they think she was killed. It's obvious that the NHSP does think that she fell victim to foul play as evidenced by the fact of her inclusion on the NH CCU list; it says for a missing person to be placed on the CCU list that foul play must be believed to be the reason for the dissapearance. So it's obvious they believe foul play is what happened here, but that's different than them going on the news and saying 'we believe she was murdered but we have no clue what happened and we can't catch the guy' that will NEVER happen.

So before anyone thinks that Alden isn't a suspect because LE hasn't said they believe he is, they need to consider the fact that they would NEVER admit they believe that unless they have her body and he is in handcutts and under arrest for murder, not gonna happen, no way in hell.

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This is not necessarily true. How do you know whether or not they consider him a poi or not? Have they ever come out and said that he is or isn't?
LE is under no obligation to tell the public whether or not someone is a poi or a suspect & they generally choose not to make that Info known unless it will bring an advantage to their case. There is no way in hell they would tell the public they think this guy is a suspect unless he is placed under arrest.
At this point they don't have her body, so even If they think he is the suspect, or have evidence indicating that he is, they would never tell the public this. First of all if they told the public this then it would be like admitting that they know who killed her but they're not good enough to catch him, not gonna happen.
Second of all at this point they have this guy who comes online and posts and posts and posts all sorts of crazy shit, if they let on that they think he's a suspect it might spook him an make him stop posting, which would be bad if he was truly responsible. If they don't have her body they're best plan of attack is to just sit back and listen to what the guy has to say and wait for him to make a mistake, maybe reveal somethin that could lead them somewhere. If they spooked him and he shuts up then they might never know what happened. The best thing they can do right now, whether it's Alden or anyone else who killed her, is to pretend that they don't even think a murder happened, let the killer think he got away with it so he might be less careful.
Right now they're waiting for someone to mess up, mess up in such a way that they let out some sort of crucial info that could lead to her body, or maybe mess up somehow so they can obtain a search warrant on a property that they want to search.
The bottom line is that no matter what the cops say we have no clue if they consider Alden, I anyone a suspect unless they arrest someone and we aren't going to know unless they arrest someone. And they won't say anything or arrest Anton until they have her body. Even if there was a strong piece of evdence indication that he killed her without her body they won't have enough for a conviction. They don't want to just arrest someone nd then have to Let them go a year later, that woud be the worst possible thing they could do and they will NEVER do that. Until they have her body & the evidence that comes along with it they will NEVER admit they have a poi or even straight up admi that they think she was killed. It's obvious that the NHSP does think that she fell victim to foul play as evidenced by the fact of her inclusion on the NH CCU list; it says for a missing person to be placed on the CCU list that foul play must be believed to be the reason for the dissapearance. So it's obvious they believe foul play is what happened here, but that's different than them going on the news and saying 'we believe she was murdered but we have no clue what happened and we can't catch the guy' that will NEVER happen.
So before anyone thinks that Alden isn't a suspect because LE hasn't said they believe he is, they need to consider the fact that they would NEVER admit they believe that unless they have her body and he is in handcutts and under arrest for murder, not gonna happen, no way in hell.
Jenkins if everyone else is so dumb and you are so smart why haven't you solved this by now?

Jenkins wrote:**they have this guy who comes online and posts and posts and posts all sorts of crazy shit, if they let on that they think he's a suspect it might spook him an make him stop posting**.
You're kidding! Really? That's all it would take? Do you by chance feel spooked?
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they have been "looked into". and Beagle is a free man.
Just because he is a free man right now means absolutely nothing in regards to whether or not he is potentially a POI or a suspect or responsible for this crime. Making those videos was perfectly legal, while they were sick, evil and disgusting there was nothing specifically illegal about him posting them, they were just a bad thing to do. Unfortunately morals don't always equate with the legal system. There was absolutly nothing in those videos that could put anyone in jail, so why wouldn't he be a free man because the 'looked into' those videos.

Something else to consider is the fact that within the first couple of days that the videos were posted, the first time they were ever mentioned on the news LE was already saying that they had been 'looked into' and were just a ccruel hoax. Well there is really no way that they could've even determined that within one day, that's impossible. But even if they knew it was the killer who posted them do you really think they would come out and say it? Now way in hell, there's just no way in hell that they would EVER admit that maura's killer was aa free man and able to post vdeos taunting her family and there isn't a thing they can do about it.
If they admitted that not only would they be admitting that she was murdered and they can't catch the guy. There's on thing that cops just won't do and that's make themselves look bad.
Not onlly would it make themselves look really bad but it would also encourage the guy to make more videos, that they were working and it would make it a major media thing too.

Can you imagine the media shitstorm there would be if LE admitted that a murdererr was taunting his victim's family using youtube?? It would be a major story all over the country, it would be HUGE news. Just think about that, do you really think that the cops would ever admit that the killer that they can't catch is using youtube to taunt the victim's family and there isn't a thing they can do about it?? That would NEVER EVER happen, not in a million years.

SO basically we can't determine anything by anytthing they've said on the matter because even if he was her killer and they knew it but couldn't prove it they would NEVER EVER admit it, EVER. That's just not gonna happen.

I'm not saying that ALden/Beagle is definitely her killer, I don't know. There is some things that indicate it being a possibility especially after learning that he was in NH when and where she went missing and he's never said anything about it, but I really have no idea if he is or not. All i'm saying is that we can't say that he's no her klller, or not a poi because the cops 'looked into' the videos and he is a free man, that means nothing except her body hasn't been found and there isn't enough evidence to convict this guy. Nobody can say that he isn't a poi because LE hasn't admitted it and nobody can say that he didn't kill her because he is a free man right now.
When the cops said that it was a cruel hoax there was no possible way they could've known it thenn, so that means they were lying then. But of course they would lie, does anybody REALLY think LE would admit that her killer is on the loose, they can't catch him and he's free to post videos taunting the family on youtube? That's just never gonna happen, let's get real here people
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BillNH wrote:
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It's cool Jenkins, to make your point you did manage to leave out the most interesting part of my report of that day, but then it would have ruined your jab at me. The fact that they were heading in the opposite direction I was, then immediately turned around and appeared to be following me for several miles over some rough terrain was what piqued my interest in them. That is not something that happens every day. That said, you owe me a jab or two, and I appreciate your brevity in doing so.
I'm sorry I didn't realize the fact that some van turned around and ended up driving behind you for a few miles was interesting in any way. You're not trying to suggest that they were actually followng you are you? And why would they be following you? DId you think they were following you because you post on this forum and if theywere how would they possibly know that you were going to drive down BHR right that minute so they could turn around and follow you?

SO no I didn't leave that out on purpose, I just didn't realize that you thought it was interesting that a van just happened to turn around and then drive behind you for a few miles; sounded to me like it was just someone from mass driving around, I don't see anyhting to suggest that had ANYTHING to do with this case or that they were even following you in any way.

So my apologies, let me say it again properly...so lemme get this straight, while drivin around the other day you saw a girl with dark hair, a red truck AND someone from mass drove behind you for a few miles?!?!?' holy shit has anyone called the NHSP & told them they can stop investigating now? We've just broke the case wide open right here on topix. Lol
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Jenkins if everyone else is so dumb and you are so smart why haven't you solved this by now?
Jenkins wrote:**they have this guy who comes online and posts and posts and posts all sorts of crazy shit, if they let on that they think he's a suspect it might spook him an make him stop posting**.
You're kidding! Really? That's all it would take? Do you by chance feel spooked?
When did I ever say I was so smart or even particularly smarter than anyone else?? Did I say anything like that? No.

Why would I feel spooked?

And who ever said I thought I was tryin to solve this case? I have absolutely no resources or access to any information that would make me able to solve this case, I was merely commenting on how shit works in general.

This is just common sense in any investigation, If LE thinks someone is a poi but they have no REAL evidence then there isn't much they can do about it except hope the person screws up one way or another.
When it comes to someone like Alden who is actually making posts after post who potentially is a poi then they would obviously want this person to keep posting, they would NEVER let on that they think he is a poi & scare him into stop posting. Investigations work of information, if they think someone is a poi they would want to get as much info from the guy as they could, they would WANT him to make all these posts in the hope that MAYBE, just maybe he'll slip up somewhere along the line and let out some sort of critical piece of info that they can use.

I'm just some dude posting on topix, I have no access to any of the info that LE has access to so even if he did say something that means something I would have no way of knowing that, but a Leo that has access to the thousands of pages of info that is in the cas file.

One thing is clear though, if LE thinks Alden is a poi the would NEVER tell the public this for many reasons including them not wanting to spook himm so he keeps posting about the case.

So your comment right here wowzer makes zero sense, but I suspect you know that; you just like talking shit and will take any oppurtunity to do so no matter how little sense it makes or how dishonest it is, this is a known fact about you that anyone can easily see. But it's cool, keep talking shit, I could care less.

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<quoted text>So sad and a heart breaking story. So many innocent people hurt and several lives taken. A young and innocent child has lost there life. I keep asking myself why? Why would some one ever want to hurt a child?
Only a coward and someone that is evil and heartless would hurt a child.
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I agree with that 100% wowzer, only a coward would hurt a child in any way & you have to be a real coward to hurt someone like that, set off a bomb while you're away somewhere else and don't have to witness the damage it caused first hand.

It's just beyond my comprehension that anybody can wake up one morning and think to themselves 'gee I feel like bombing a bunch of innocent people today'. I'll just never understand how anybody can be so cruel and evil to Hurt other people like that, it's unbelievable how sick some people can be.
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Just because he is a free man right now means absolutely nothing in regards to whether or not he is potentially a POI or a suspect or responsible for this crime. Making those videos was perfectly legal, while they were sick, evil and disgusting there was nothing specifically illegal about him posting them, they were just a bad thing to do. Unfortunately morals don't always equate with the legal system. There was absolutly nothing in those videos that could put anyone in jail, so why wouldn't he be a free man because the 'looked into' those videos.
Something else to consider is the fact that within the first couple of days that the videos were posted, the first time they were ever mentioned on the news LE was already saying that they had been 'looked into' and were just a ccruel hoax. Well there is really no way that they could've even determined that within one day, that's impossible. But even if they knew it was the killer who posted them do you really think they would come out and say it? Now way in hell, there's just no way in hell that they would EVER admit that maura's killer was aa free man and able to post vdeos taunting her family and there isn't a thing they can do about it.
If they admitted that not only would they be admitting that she was murdered and they can't catch the guy. There's on thing that cops just won't do and that's make themselves look bad.
Not onlly would it make themselves look really bad but it would also encourage the guy to make more videos, that they were working and it would make it a major media thing too.
Can you imagine the media shitstorm there would be if LE admitted that a murdererr was taunting his victim's family using youtube?? It would be a major story all over the country, it would be HUGE news. Just think about that, do you really think that the cops would ever admit that the killer that they can't catch is using youtube to taunt the victim's family and there isn't a thing they can do about it?? That would NEVER EVER happen, not in a million years.
SO basically we can't determine anything by anytthing they've said on the matter because even if he was her killer and they knew it but couldn't prove it they would NEVER EVER admit it, EVER. That's just not gonna happen.
I'm not saying that ALden/Beagle is definitely her killer, I don't know. There is some things that indicate it being a possibility especially after learning that he was in NH when and where she went missing and he's never said anything about it, but I really have no idea if he is or not. All i'm saying is that we can't say that he's no her klller, or not a poi because the cops 'looked into' the videos and he is a free man, that means nothing except her body hasn't been found and there isn't enough evidence to convict this guy. Nobody can say that he isn't a poi because LE hasn't admitted it and nobody can say that he didn't kill her because he is a free man right now.
When the cops said that it was a cruel hoax there was no possible way they could've known it thenn, so that means they were lying then. But of course they would lie, does anybody REALLY think LE would admit that her killer is on the loose, they can't catch him and he's free to post videos taunting the family on youtube? That's just never gonna happen, let's get real here people
crime? killer? murdered?
there is no proof of a crime committed against MM, that she has been the victim of a killer, or that she has been murdered.
it is only evident that she has dusappeared.

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Jenkins, Not sure why my post bothers you so much so I reposted it in a way you may understand:

Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me.

Now it is just like one of your posts. Acceptable now?
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oh, and please spare me the CCU rantsy as irrefutable proof of murder. that falsl under the category of "making up shit".
her status is officially "missing person".

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Only a coward and someone that is evil and heartless would hurt a child.
Amen
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Snowy go read the CCU mission statement- they only investigate- "missing person cases in which foul play is suspected in the person's disappearance." that's a quote lifted directly off the first page of thir website.

That means they don't investigate missing person's where suicide is believed to be the cause & they don't investigate missing person's that are believed to be lost in the woods either, they only investigate cases where they believe foul play is the cause.
The language on their website is very unambiguous, it's not really up to interpretation. It's obvious that the NHSP believes that she was a victim of foul play. They could be wrong I suppose, but the main investigative agency that has worked this case from the beginning clearly believes foul play is the reason she is missing.
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Jenkins, Not sure why my post bothers you so much so I reposted it in a way you may understand:
Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me. Beagle doesn't drive a white van does he? Soon as I turn onto Gale rd I meet a creeper van with mass plates coming towards me. The van turned Around Now it's following me.
Now it is just like one of your posts. Acceptable now?
I beg to differ in that there are many elements missing from your post that would make it just like one of Jenkins' posts. To be even close to similar, it would need to be liberally sprinkled with the words "shit," "liar" and "clearly," have several instances of usage of phrases such as "beautiful young girl"and "not gonna happen" and have at least one instance of an all caps "NEVER." Plus, you actually spelled every word correctly, you aren't insulting a single person, and not one of your paragraphs is a rant against WTH-Bill. Finally, and most importantly, you didn't even come close to using up all your 4000 allotted characters.

Sorry, but if you want to emulate Jenky, you'll have to at least try to incorporate some of the above features into your posts.
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Snowy go read the CCU mission statement- they only investigate- "missing person cases in which foul play is suspected in the person's disappearance." that's a quote lifted directly off the first page of thir website.
That means they don't investigate missing person's where suicide is believed to be the cause & they don't investigate missing person's that are believed to be lost in the woods either, they only investigate cases where they believe foul play is the cause.
The language on their website is very unambiguous, it's not really up to interpretation. It's obvious that the NHSP believes that she was a victim of foul play. They could be wrong I suppose, but the main investigative agency that has worked this case from the beginning clearly believes foul play is the reason she is missing.
i've read it, well ahead of you.
suspected foul play is not certain foul play.
your statements typically bend and interpret facts, and that is my gripe with you.

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Maruchan wrote:
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I beg to differ in that there are many elements missing from your post that would make it just like one of Jenkins' posts. To be even close to similar, it would need to be liberally sprinkled with the words "shit," "liar" and "clearly," have several instances of usage of phrases such as "beautiful young girl"and "not gonna happen" and have at least one instance of an all caps "NEVER." Plus, you actually spelled every word correctly, you aren't insulting a single person, and not one of your paragraphs is a rant against WTH-Bill. Finally, and most importantly, you didn't even come close to using up all your 4000 allotted characters.
Sorry, but if you want to emulate Jenky, you'll have to at least try to incorporate some of the above features into your posts.
You're right, on all accounts. I was mainly going for the "repeating every thing I said in the first paragraph over and over". Quite honestly it tired me out using 2000 characters, I don't know how he does it. I bow to the master.
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Thank You all for the concern. It is appreciated. You just never know what is going to happen and life is so precious.
Live everyday, Love everyday, Laugh everyday, Learn everyday.
John
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Snowy nobody ever said it was definite foul play.
I merely stated a fact, that the NHSP BELIEVES foul play is responsible for her dissapearance.
So the only one making shit up is you bc I never said anything as a fact & you know it.

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