Maura Murray

09er to ground control. We're loaded and ready to taxi. Lovelorn: Goodbye Bill! Leaving : Goodbye darling. I love you darling. Tower : 2-0-9er, taxi to runway 1-9er. Leaving : Goodbye darling. Lovelorn: Have your picture taken the minute you get there. And send me one, alright? Leaving : Okay, here, hurry.( he throws her his watch as she runs along the side of the taxiing plane.) Lovelorn: Oh, but your watch, but you shouldn't. You're gonna need this! Leaving : Its alright. It doesn't work. Lovelorn: Bill! Leaving : Goodbye darling. Lovelorn: Bill!( Knocks over light tower while running ) Bill! Bill! I'll keep it with me all the time, I swear to you. Leaving : I know darling, take care of yourself, goodbye. Tower : Flight 2-0-9er, you're cleared for take off. Oever : Roger! Murdock : Huh? Tower : L.A. departure frequency 1-2-3 point 9er. Oever : Roger! Murdock : Huh?: Re-quest Vector, over! Oever : What? Tower : 2-0-9er clear for vector 2-3-4. Murdock : We have clearance Clarence. Oever : Roger, Roger. What's our Vector Victor? Tower : Tower's radio clearance, over! Oever : That's Clarence Oever! Oever. Tower : Roger

at plane down in time. MSOever : That isn't much of a chance, is it? MCrosky : I don't know, I don't know, but we're doing everything we can, now excuse me huh? Johnny : Where did you get that dress? Its aweful ... and those shoes, and that coat, geeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz.( Tower Guys Playing Atari basketball on radar screen ) Towergy : 8 miles. Looks like their heading 0-4-4. Elaine : We are now at 2000 feet beginning our decent. Kramer : Steve, I want every light you can get poured onto that field.( A dump truck dumps table lamps onto the runway ) Towergy : Tower to all emergency vehicles, runway is 9er. Airport vehicles take stations 1 and 2. Civilian equipment number 3. Air Force positions number 4 and 5. All ambulances go to number 3. Air Israel, please clear the runway ( Plane is shown wearing a beard, hat, tallis, and yarmulke.) Attendnt: In a moment, we'll ask you to assume crash positions. your life jackets are located under your seat. Place the jacket over your head. And when I give the word, pull the cord on the right side flap. Your seat cushions are also equipped with a flotation device. Radio : WZAZ in Chicago, where disco lives forever ( plane knocks down station's transmitter ) Kramer : Watch your altitude Striker, you're too erratic. You can't come straight in. You've got enough fuel left for two hours of flying. Striker : I'll take it Elaine. Listen to me Kramer! We have people up here who will die in less than an hour let alone two. I may bend your precious airplane, but I'll get it down. I'm putting the landing gear down now. Attendnt: Mr. Striker, the passengers are ready. Striker : Thank you Randy. You'd better leave sweetheart. You might get hurt up here. Elaine : Ted, Striker : Yes? Elaine : I wanted you to know, now ... I'm very proud. Striker : Tell 'em the gear is down and we're ready to land. Elaine : The gear is down and we're ready to land. Kramer : Alright, he's on final now, put out all runway lights except 9er. Towerguy: Captain, maybe we ough

e been fairly reluctant to get into anything directly to do with Maura's family. I've felt they were off limits. The attacks on her father I thought were beyond repulsive. On several occasions I so stated. But I'm starting to change my mind, at least a little, about some of it. Maura's disappearance is obviously strange in several respects, not the least of which is the silence of Maura's immediate family or even her extended family of aunts, uncles, and cousins. Not a peep.(HM is not really family because, according to her, she never met Maura and did not marry a cousin of Fred's until after Maura's disappearance.) Maura's family never once have denounced or explicitly disconnected themselves from the aggravation, turmoil, grief, and a thousand other pains inflicted or generated by the discussion -online and offline -of what happened to Maura. I regret to say that by their deliberate silence they have therefore tacitly approved much of this reckless behavior, cyber bullying, and terrifying verbal assaults. One hopes they at least take no pleasure from it. It is understandable that grief may provoke unexpected reactions in those closest to Maura. Irrational or angry things may be said or done by her family and friends; and that is to be generally excused. Their privacy is to be respected. But after seven years, it is time for Maura Murray's family to chose among themselves a spokesperson to make a public statement, one

Iv;e been fairly reluctant to get into anything directly to do with Maura's family. I've felt they were off limits. The attacks on her father I thought were beyond repulsive. On several occasions I so stated. But I'm starting to change my mind, at least a little, about some of it. Maura's disappearance is obviously strange in several respects, not the least of which is the silence of Maura's immediate family or even her extended family of aunts, uncles, and cousins. Not a peep.(HM is not really family because, according to her, she never met Maura and did not marry a cousin of Fred's until after Maura's disappearance.) Maura's family never once have denounced or explicitly disconnected themselves from the aggravation, turmoil, grief, and a thousand other pains inflicted or generated by the discussion -online and offline -of what happened to Maura. I regret to say that by their deliberate silence they have therefore tacitly approved much of this reckless behavior, cyber bullying, and terrifying verbal assaults. One hopes they at least take no pleasure from it. It is understandable that grief may provoke unexpected reactions in those closest to Maura. Irrational or angry things may be said or done by her family and friends; and that is to be generally excused. Their privacy is to be respected. But after seven years, it is time for Maura Murray's family to chose among themselves a spokesperson to make a public statement, one

rozShoem wrote:

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"....Us?" LOL

Yes, us. LOL There are some of us here that use common sense and don't state theories and things that are untrue as "facts".

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Not only do you claim to know everything about the abductor in your theory (there has been no evidence that any abduction ever took place) but now you claim to know everything about Maura right down to her personal hygiene. Quite intimate details if you ask me.
Yep I surely think that you know much more than you should for just an online poster on a public forum. The question is how do you know these things?

save this post. there's time to wait for an answer.

I'll use legit posts as "spam" so they can be read.

Yeah Roz we know your theory. Not that it isn't viable. Well, except for the self-evidently unrelated individuals you attack sporadicly. Plus invented facts.

Were going with the facts here. If you want fiction, go to Websluths.

Snowy wrote:

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save this post. there's time to wait for an answer.

I think we could wait till hel* freezes over before we get an answer.
Roz likes to ask a million and one questions but doesn't like to answer any asked of him/her.

Lord Dark Helmet wrote:

I'll use legit posts as "spam" so they can be read.
Yeah Roz we know your theory. Not that it isn't viable. Well, except for the self-evidently unrelated individuals you attack sporadicly. Plus invented facts.
Were going with the facts here. If you want fiction, go to Websluths.

Thank you.

Beagle wrote:

Just in case this post got spammed over...
I've been fairly reluctant to get into anything directly to do with Maura's family. I've felt they were off limits. The attacks on her father I thought were beyond repulsive. On several occasions I so stated. But I'm starting to change my mind, at least a little, about some of it.
Maura's disappearance is obviously strange in several respects, not the least of which is the silence of Maura's immediate family or even her extended family of aunts, uncles, and cousins. Not a peep.(HM is not really family because, according to her, she never met Maura and did not marry a cousin of Fred's until after Maura's disappearance.)
Maura's family never once have denounced or explicitly disconnected themselves from the aggravation, turmoil, grief, and a thousand other pains inflicted or generated by the discussion - online and offline - of what happened to Maura. I regret to say that by their deliberate silence they have therefore tacitly approved much of this reckless behavior, cyber bullying, and terrifying verbal assaults. One hopes they at least take no pleasure from it.
It is understandable that grief may provoke unexpected reactions in those closest to Maura. Irrational or angry things may be said or done by her family and friends; and that is to be generally excused. Their privacy is to be respected. But after seven years, it is time for Maura Murray's family to chose among themselves a spokesperson to make a public statement, one that either aligns themselves with antagonistic posters or disowns them plainly and completely.
There should be no ambiguity about where they stand. They should never want to be associated with the many vicious things that have happened in the name of discovering what became of Maura. In the absence of such a statement, one may assume they approve even the worst conduct by their proxies.
Their continued silence amounts to the abuse of Maura's good name.

you're too kind.'they' have not been, similarly, kind to you.
looks like this conversation began and will end with Maura's family.

rozShoem wrote:

Bill/WTF,
Do you know approximately how far the Saturn was located from Sabbaday Brook Trail Parking Lot? It's not important as to whether it was closed or open. Thanks.

I have been there often. Its east of I-93 on the Kanc. Its around 30 miles away.

That took 10 seconds.

Bill

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I think we could wait till hel* freezes over before we get an answer.
Roz likes to ask a million and one questions but doesn't like to answer any asked of him/her.

More than doesn't like the answer. She asks the question then argues about the answer. If she has enough information to argue the point,(at least she thinks she has enough information) why did she need to ask the question?

Bill

Lord Dark Helmet wrote:

Were going with the facts here. If you want fiction, go to Websluths.

You got that right. I read crap on Websloths that is beyond belief. Another group of people that are looking for lamb's breath and unicorns. Most of them don't have any of the basic information about the case correct. Another tremendous waste of electrons. I cry every night for the abuse those electrons must endure on that site.

Bill

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Yes, us. LOL There are some of us here that use common sense and don't state theories and things that are untrue as "facts".

Common? What about preferred? How do you feel about preferred?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I have been there often. Its east of I-93 on the Kanc. Its around 30 miles away.
That took 10 seconds.
Bill

Thanks for this information.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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More than doesn't like the answer. She asks the question then argues about the answer. If she has enough information to argue the point,(at least she thinks she has enough information) why did she need to ask the question?
Bill

Why? Because I knew of her familiarity with that area and needed to have a good idea the distance from the Saturn to that area. Needed a second opinion and Bill has the best info/data of anyone on this forum. That's why. Thanks, again Bill.

rozShoem wrote:

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Common? What about preferred? How do you feel about preferred?

I feel great about it.
I always prefer to use common sense. Unfortunately some people don't have the amount of sense that God gave to a flea.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I feel great about it.
I always prefer to use common sense. Unfortunately some people don't have the amount of sense that God gave to a flea.

So you believe in fleas. God, too. Interestingly you've positioned both together in one sentence.
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WTH-the-original wrote:

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You got that right. I read crap on Websloths that is beyond belief. Another group of people that are looking for lamb's breath and unicorns. Most of them don't have any of the basic information about the case correct. Another tremendous waste of electrons. I cry every night for the abuse those electrons must endure on that site.
Bill

Electrons. Somewhat reminiscent of something T.S.Elliot had described. Something about hell being a place where nothing connects.

huh?