Maura Murray

Yes, it is a shame...but not surprising.....

Shack wrote:

Yes, it is a shame...but not surprising.....

Shack has the ribbon and poster gone missing in the past?

Not surprising at all. Somebody should put a little effort into figuring out who is taking these posters down. This has been going on for years, since te beginning really, I'd estimate hundreds have been taken down.

Who would do something like that? Who cares that much? Who is that pissed off that there's a missing person & her family wants to know what happened to her?
Is it some random person in the community that thinks having missing persons posters up looks poorly on the community, it's something they feel should be forgotten about altogether? The shitty thing here is that's the BEST case scenario, just some random pissed off person that thinks it doesn't look good to have missing persons posters up in their town, even though a girl did go missing from their town.
It's either a random citizen, or it's LE themselves themselves taking it down or it's someone who is connected to her dissapearance who's trying to 'help' people forget about it.

I find it hard to believe someone connected to the crime would risk getting seen taking a poster down, that just seems unbelievable. Although there's a good possibility it's a family member of one of the potential suspects thats out there & they think they're helping their nephew or brother or whoever by taking down her missing posters. Kind of like there's a very good possibility one, or more, of these weirdos posting on these forums is a family member of a potential suspect & they think it's beneficial to convince people online she was just some drunk idiot who got herself lost in the woods running from the cops. I'd put good money down that if we knew exactly who everyone who posted on this thread is one or more of these monikers is someone who is related to someone who was, or still is, a suspect in her dissapearance. Up Haverhill there's a lot of people who believe she was murdered & they know who did it. There's a good chance they're right too considering the sources this story originated from(inside the guy's family). For some reason it just seems like a few of these people are closer to this case than many people think, they don't care about logic, reason & certainly not the truth; only that people think she was a stupid drunk girl who got lost in the woods running from the cops. That's it.

I find it very hard to believe LE would wanna get seen taking down a missing poster anywhere, it's possible they did it but I find it unlikely.

It probably is just some pissed off random local who took it down but when you consider the sheer number of posters that have been taken down over the years all over the whole region, it looks like someone REALLY doesn't want missing persons posters up.

The sad thing here, the most completely whacked out & totally sad thing about this is the fact that if it was a missing DOG, that poster would NEVER be taken down until the owner takes it down. Nobody would EVER care about a missing dog's poster being up, but yet a missing PERSON poster gets taken down? Taken down many many times all over the place. There is something seriously wrong with this picture.

It's fkn just sad that someone is so screwed up in the head that they would go remove a missing poster from anywhere, but particularly that tree. That was the ONE spot where her poster was 'allowed'...the only spot that the poster doesn't just get taken down whenever it's put up, but now even that ones been taken down...what is wrong with people???

JWB- you personally put the plastic sleeve on the poster? That's cool if you did I was just wondering if that's what you meant to say.

Not surprising because of the fact that hundreds of posters have been taken down over the years but I was a LITTLE surprised to hear that someone actually had the balls to rip down the ribbon & the poster, that's just bad, what kind of person would do that??

I'm sure everyone has seen those crosses on the side of the road that families put up after a loved one crashes & dies. Nobody would EVER touch on of those. If she has hit that tree & died nobody would ever touch a cross that her family put up.

But this girl is missing so it's ok to take down the missing poster & ribbon that's at or close to the spot she went missing? How the hell does someone do that? What is wrong with people?
Her missing poster & ribbon is arguably much more important than any of those crosses are. Those are sad, but a missing poster might actually help find the missing person. this person might actually still be alive & even if not then she still needs to be found so the family has closure. The poster on the tree might not be solving this case but it does raise awareness, there's at least a coupe people on this thread that say they heard of MM bc they saw the ribbon tree, JWB & BillNH iirc, & I believe at least one more. That means if there's a few that actually post here there's a lot more out there who've heard of if but don't post.
Most people don't post on Internet forums & contrary to what many people around here seem to think very very few people have ever even heard of topix, reading what some people around here write you would think topix is the new Boston globe, or maybe the globe & CNN combined, that's how important it is. Lol.
Missing posters can be very important for missing persons cases & it's really sad that there are some people up Haverhill that don't want these posters up.

Some people are just plain f'd in the head, that's the long & short of it. Nobody would ever touch a cross that signifies where someone died in a car crash, nobody would even touch a missing DOG poster, but up in the N Haverhill area of NH it's cool for people to take down missing persons posters. Interesting. Then we got a few locals, like Wowzer, who constantly make excuses for why posters get taken down all the time, like it's not a big deal. That's very telling & shows what kind of people these weirdos truly are. Wowzer or one of her band of angry misfit trolls will be coming along any time now to tell us how it's not a big deal & it was probably blown off in the weather or something ridiculous like that.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I think that is one of the greatest mysteries of them all. Why do so many carry the burden of someone that they never knew or never met. Any emotional attachement that has been created is based off of someone they never met. They love an image an icon that was created that they have no way of knowing the real person.

Lighthouse lemme ask you a quick question- who the hell are you talking about in this post?? Who 'carries the burden of someone that they never knew'?? What does that even mean & who are you talking about??

"they love an image or an icon"...again who are you talking about? Who loves any image here? What does this even mean in relation to this case?

I think this is some sort of bazaar fantasy you've concocted in your head, this notion that people are like obsessed with MM & blah blah blah. I don't see anyone obsessing over anything, except maybe Alden, he does seem pretty obsessed.
Seems to me like you're confusing people saying that they care what happened to this girl who went missing with them being obsessed with this. Besides beagle the only people that seem obsessed with anything are people like snowy & Wowzer; these people are on this forum from early in the morning to late st night, every day. Literally ALL DAY EVERY DAY, now THAT'S obsessed. Funny part is that half their posts are about how stupid the whole thing is an what a waste of time it is. How stupid is that? They spend like 16 hours a day posting somewhere they think is totally a waste of time and completely stupid. Weird.

Reading this post it just seems like you have some sort of bazaar fantasy about what other people think that's NOT based in REALITY, it's freekin weird.
And then your other post comparing the ribbon tree to holy sites around the world, my god are you for real?? So people are making pilgrimages to the ribbon tree now?? When did that start happening? How have I not heard of that?

Amy was saying that she wants to go to visit Nh sometime bc it's so beautiful, & she said that if she ever does she would wanna check out the area where Maura went missing, out of curiosity basically. That's not making a pilgrimage, that's NOTHING like you're implying people do. Has there ever been anyone who's made a pilgrimage of sorts to the ribbon tree? Can you name just one person who's ever gone there under the pretext you've described? Just one? I think not.

That post was just plain snarky, bitchy & very stupid all at the same time, I'm impressed with how bad a post you can make. I'm also impressed with how much Tom you have to spend commenting on a topic that you think is such a waste of time.

Jenkins wrote:

Not surprising because of the fact that hundreds of posters have been taken down over the years but I was a LITTLE surprised to hear that someone actually had the balls to rip down the ribbon & the poster, that's just bad, what kind of person would do that??
I'm sure everyone has seen those crosses on the side of the road that families put up after a loved one crashes & dies. Nobody would EVER touch on of those. If she has hit that tree & died nobody would ever touch a cross that her family put up.
But this girl is missing so it's ok to take down the missing poster & ribbon that's at or close to the spot she went missing? How the hell does someone do that? What is wrong with people?
Her missing poster & ribbon is arguably much more important than any of those crosses are. Those are sad, but a missing poster might actually help find the missing person. this person might actually still be alive & even if not then she still needs to be found so the family has closure. The poster on the tree might not be solving this case but it does raise awareness, there's at least a coupe people on this thread that say they heard of MM bc they saw the ribbon tree, JWB & BillNH iirc, & I believe at least one more. That means if there's a few that actually post here there's a lot more out there who've heard of if but don't post.
Most people don't post on Internet forums & contrary to what many people around here seem to think very very few people have ever even heard of topix, reading what some people around here write you would think topix is the new Boston globe, or maybe the globe & CNN combined, that's how important it is. Lol.
Missing posters can be very important for missing persons cases & it's really sad that there are some people up Haverhill that don't want these posters up.
Some people are just plain f'd in the head, that's the long & short of it. Nobody would ever touch a cross that signifies where someone died in a car crash, nobody would even touch a missing DOG poster, but up in the N Haverhill area of NH it's cool for people to take down missing persons posters. Interesting. Then we got a few locals, like Wowzer, who constantly make excuses for why posters get taken down all the time, like it's not a big deal. That's very telling & shows what kind of people these weirdos truly are. Wowzer or one of her band of angry misfit trolls will be coming along any time now to tell us how it's not a big deal & it was probably blown off in the weather or something ridiculous like that.

Jenkins I'm concerned for you. It looks like you are on the verge of becoming hysterical. She must have been a close friend or relative for you to be this upset. Seriously you should calm down before you have a heart attack or something.

Jenkins wrote:

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Lighthouse lemme ask you a quick question- who the hell are you talking about in this post?? Who 'carries the burden of someone that they never knew'?? What does that even mean & who are you talking about??
"they love an image or an icon"...again who are you talking about? Who loves any image here? What does this even mean in relation to this case?
I think this is some sort of bazaar fantasy you've concocted in your head, this notion that people are like obsessed with MM & blah blah blah. I don't see anyone obsessing over anything, except maybe Alden, he does seem pretty obsessed.
Seems to me like you're confusing people saying that they care what happened to this girl who went missing with them being obsessed with this. Besides beagle the only people that seem obsessed with anything are people like snowy & Wowzer; these people are on this forum from early in the morning to late st night, every day. Literally ALL DAY EVERY DAY, now THAT'S obsessed. Funny part is that half their posts are about how stupid the whole thing is an what a waste of time it is. How stupid is that? They spend like 16 hours a day posting somewhere they think is totally a waste of time and completely stupid. Weird.
Reading this post it just seems like you have some sort of bazaar fantasy about what other people think that's NOT based in REALITY, it's freekin weird.
And then your other post comparing the ribbon tree to holy sites around the world, my god are you for real?? So people are making pilgrimages to the ribbon tree now?? When did that start happening? How have I not heard of that?
Amy was saying that she wants to go to visit Nh sometime bc it's so beautiful, & she said that if she ever does she would wanna check out the area where Maura went missing, out of curiosity basically. That's not making a pilgrimage, that's NOTHING like you're implying people do. Has there ever been anyone who's made a pilgrimage of sorts to the ribbon tree? Can you name just one person who's ever gone there under the pretext you've described? Just one? I think not.
That post was just plain snarky, bitchy & very stupid all at the same time, I'm impressed with how bad a post you can make. I'm also impressed with how much Tom you have to spend commenting on a topic that you think is such a waste of time.

While I'm sleeping under the tree, which is a good way to save on hotel bills, I'll also be on the lookout for the poster thief.:-)

nobbynees wrote:

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Jenkins I'm concerned for you. It looks like you are on the verge of becoming hysterical. She must have been a close friend or relative for you to be this upset. Seriously you should calm down before you have a heart attack or something.

I appreciate your concern nobbykmees, that's very kind but I can assure you my heart is just fine & I was perfectly calm whilst writing that post.
I'm just wondering here, what in that post gave the impression that I was
Pissed to the point I would have an elevated blood pressure or something like that? Seriously, what kind of idiotic critisism is that crap?

I thought it was sad someone takes down these posters, I was pretty apalled & think it's disgusting & sure it pisses me off, but I was perfectly calm I can assure you.

I also don't see what in that post would make you think I'm family? What's up with the dumb shit dude?

Maybe the poster and ribbon are being taken down by someone who lives fairly nearby and would rather just look at the natural trees there when driving by every day, rather than a poster/ribbon that have been up for 9 years.

Of course, if it was my child or relative, I wouldn't want it taken down ever.

JWB wrote:

Why would someone do this? Has the ribbon gone missing before ? It has been said that someone was tearing down posters early on. Either someone doesn't like the Murrays or someone doesn't like keeping Mauras name in the public eye.

As I had stated in the past, I had not traveled 112 much, 5 times a year maybe on average but I don't remember ever seeing the ribbon gone.

However, knowing how stupid and thoughtless some teenagers can be, it would not surprise me if this was just a random act of vandalism.

I know that anything about MM tends to kick in the conspiracy instinct in some people but I highly doubt it was a directed affront to MM and her family.

Jenkins wrote:

Not surprising because of the fact that hundreds of posters have been taken down over the years but I was a LITTLE surprised to hear that someone actually had the balls to rip down the ribbon & the poster, that's just bad, what kind of person would do that??
I'm sure everyone has seen those crosses on the side of the road that families put up after a loved one crashes & dies. Nobody would EVER touch on of those. If she has hit that tree & died nobody would ever touch a cross that her family put up.
But this girl is missing so it's ok to take down the missing poster & ribbon that's at or close to the spot she went missing? How the hell does someone do that? What is wrong with people?
Her missing poster & ribbon is arguably much more important than any of those crosses are. Those are sad, but a missing poster might actually help find the missing person. this person might actually still be alive & even if not then she still needs to be found so the family has closure. The poster on the tree might not be solving this case but it does raise awareness, there's at least a coupe people on this thread that say they heard of MM bc they saw the ribbon tree, JWB & BillNH iirc, & I believe at least one more. That means if there's a few that actually post here there's a lot more out there who've heard of if but don't post.
Most people don't post on Internet forums & contrary to what many people around here seem to think very very few people have ever even heard of topix, reading what some people around here write you would think topix is the new Boston globe, or maybe the globe & CNN combined, that's how important it is. Lol.
Missing posters can be very important for missing persons cases & it's really sad that there are some people up Haverhill that don't want these posters up.
Some people are just plain f'd in the head, that's the long & short of it. Nobody would ever touch a cross that signifies where someone died in a car crash, nobody would even touch a missing DOG poster, but up in the N Haverhill area of NH it's cool for people to take down missing persons posters. Interesting. Then we got a few locals, like Wowzer, who constantly make excuses for why posters get taken down all the time, like it's not a big deal. That's very telling & shows what kind of people these weirdos truly are. Wowzer or one of her band of angry misfit trolls will be coming along any time now to tell us how it's not a big deal & it was probably blown off in the weather or something ridiculous like that.

Just a note here. Not sure what the law is here in NH, but I lived in Western NY for 35 years. It was illegal to put these type of posters on telephone poles. It was also illegal to put posters on private property without the permission of the owner. That may be the case here if posters are constantly being taken down. While I agree that the posters can be helpful, I can also understand if someone prefers not to have them tacked to their trees, it is their personal property, no less than your front porch or screen door on your house. Would you allow posters to be tacked to your front door? There is a natural beauty that people enjoy here and a good cause to one can just be an annoyance to another.

So NHSP spent millions of dollars and hours on themselves to find Maura, and did not.

If they had put reward money for Maura's recovery, I'm sure people in this forum would turn on each other in a second.

It's getting real quiet in here, and I know why.

some people look as white as ghosts in here.

amy researches wrote:

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While I'm sleeping under the tree, which is a good way to save on hotel bills, I'll also be on the lookout for the poster thief.:-)

A while back my kids and some friends went out to the tree late at night with a Ouija board. They kept hearing odd noises and it really freaked them out so they never even got around to using it. Maybe you could bring one along to keep in your sleeping bag in case you get bored, let us know if you hear anything go bump in the night.

Jenkins wrote:

JWB- you personally put the plastic sleeve on the poster? That's cool if you did I was just wondering if that's what you meant to say.

Yes, I personally put the poster inside a plastic sleeve to protect it from the elements. you know the plastic sleeves that are used for pages in a binder. You can't tear them.

Snowy wrote:

So NHSP spent millions of dollars and hours on themselves to find Maura, and did not.
If they had put reward money for Maura's recovery, I'm sure people in this forum would turn on each other in a second.
It's getting real quiet in here, and I know why.
some people look as white as ghosts in here.

stop posting in my name.

Yeah it sucks when someone pretends to be you doesn't it.

Snowy's your name? Your family must be really into the white power huh?

did I say power? I meant powder.

Are you related to the snowman? Shotgun wedding?

Tang Zoi wrote:

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HUH....Just like people do w/ singers, movie stars, sports figures Etc.
Go figure.....
You don't get it do You....?

Maura is a sports figure and movie star? Those figures can be tracked via social internet and magazines. How many times was she in star magazine or people while she was alive?