Maura Murray

BillNH wrote:

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Just a note here. Not sure what the law is here in NH, but I lived in Western NY for 35 years. It was illegal to put these type of posters on telephone poles. It was also illegal to put posters on private property without the permission of the owner. That may be the case here if posters are constantly being taken down.

If the "ribbon tree" is in the right-of-way (ROW) for the highway, then, yes, it is illegal.

NH Revised Statutes Annotated Section 236:88: "Advertising Devices Within Highway Rights-of-way

Except as provided in RSA 236:88-a, any advertising device so located as to be within the right-of-way of any interstate, federal aid primary, federal aid secondary, or turnpike highway shall be deemed to be illegally located. Removal and disposal of said device shall be effected after 10 days’ written notice to the owner of said device, provided the identity and mailing address of the owner are displayed on the device, by the department of transportation."

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NH Revised Statutes Annotated Section 236:75:

"No Advertisements Of Any Kind Upon Certain Objects

Notwithstanding any provisions of the law to the contrary, it shall be unlawful to affix, attach or display any advertisement upon any object of nature, utility pole, telephone booth, or highway sign, directly in such a manner that the object of nature, utility pole, telephone booth, or highway sign, is utilized as an integral part of the sign’s support as distinguished from being only incidentally a support to the sign, such as the earth or ground upon which a sign is affixed. This prohibition shall extend to all primary and secondary highways and roads of and within the state without exception for any type of advertising. The owner of an object upon which an advertisement is placed in violation of this section shall be entitled to remove and destroy the advertisement and the advertisement owner shall not be entitled to damages or compensation therefor. The object owner shall be entitled to collect the costs associated with the removal and destruction from the advertisement owner or the person who is responsible for placing the advertisement on the object in violation of this section."

Although the ribbon tree looks like it might be far enough from the road to not be in the ROW, if you look at the telephone pole and yellow "curve" warning sign across the street between the W's property and the SBD's property, I'm pretty sure that the tree falls within the ROW and therefore, it may be the NH Transportation Department that is removing the sign/ribbon.

shreds of the ribbon linger, like a bad aftertaste.
no worries though. The Tree should frame a new picture of Kathy. I mean really, give credit where credit is due.

And just to clarify:

NH Revised Statutes Annotated Section 236:70: Definitions

"As used in this subdivision:

I. The words “advertising device” shall include any billboard, outdoor sign, notice, poster, display figure, painting, message, placard or any other device which is designated or intended to attract or which does attract the attention of operators of motor vehicles on the interstate system, federal aid primary system, and turnpike system and shall include a structure erected or used in connection with the display of any such device and all lighting or other attachments used in conjunction therewith."

Please ignore the troll using my name above - my posting place is always in NH, not NY.

http://kellyayottesenate.blogspot.com/2010/02...

Lighthouse- I was honestly asking you that question & expected some sort of answer, I wonder why you don't want to answer it. Hmmm

And btw, I didn't answer the question at all, I said that I've never seen what you're talking about and was truly wondering who exactly you're talking about when you mention all these people that are so obsessed with MM & have been 'carrying the burden of someone they never knew' lol, or whatever bullshit you were spewing in that post. That post was pure hyperbole & not true as far as I can tell.

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SnowyB- It's funny cuz those posts did sound like they could've been written by you; I figured you were just extra pissed off this morning & not holding anything back.

But you gotta Admit what he was saying in regards to this case is pretty much how you think. You might try to sugar coat it a little bit but it's petty clear that you think she was drunk & an idiot who got in all these car crashes & pretty much got what was coming to her.

Jenkins wrote:

SnowyB- It's funny cuz those posts did sound like they could've been written by you; I figured you were just extra pissed off this morning & not holding anything back.
But you gotta Admit what he was saying in regards to this case is pretty much how you think. You might try to sugar coat it a little bit but it's petty clear that you think she was drunk & an idiot who got in all these car crashes & pretty much got what was coming to her.

my thoughts and opinions stand precisely as i express them; i'll remind you i have no respect for yours.
remember, i'm not hung up on the fuzzy emotions of someone else's loss, but the flies that land on a dead horse are curiously interesting.
""this case"? so glad the geniuses are at work.

Is it just me or does anyone else find the whole 'cast of characters' thing over on Renner's blog a little strange?

Idk, I guess it's just the way it comes across but it comes off as weird to call it a 'cast of characters' like they're actors in a play or something like that. Generally the term cast is used in reference to plays & movies, etc; it just sounds strange when it's used to describe real people who are involved in a real missing persons case that is in all likelihood a murder case.

At best it appears that his blog has become the tmz.com Maura Murray's friends and family.
At this point his blog is doing absolutely nothing in the way of trying to find Maura but more just to dig up whatever dirt he can on the people that she knows, it's a rag sheet & nothing more as far as I can tell.
Good example: talking about Kate Markopoulos he mentions that her dad once served time in prison for tryin to blow up his neighbor. There ain't nobody who can say that info has anything to do with mm or the search for her, that is strictly dirt dug up on one of her friend's family. I can't see any possible purpose that serves but to try to attract readers to his blog who are hoping to find the newest dirt on MM & her group of fiends & family.
His blog has degenerated to a tabloid & nothing more; it's sucks because I had hopes that maybe with some sort of higher profile he could turn the screws a little bit on LE an possibly get some more info out of them as to what they think really happened, but it's clear that ain't happening.

If the thesis of his book is that she ran away & her family helped her his book is going to be a joke, sadly it appears that's what's gonna happen.

JENKINS "Then we got a few locals, like Wowzer, who constantly make excuses for why posters get taken down all the time, like it's not a big deal. That's very telling & shows what kind of people these weirdos truly are. Wowzer or one of her band of angry misfit trolls will be coming along any time now to tell us how it's not a big deal & it was probably blown off in the weather or something ridiculous like that. " Wowzer never made excuses. Only put out possibilities as to what could have happened concerning the posters. I remember this clearly . And no Iam not an angry misfit troll.

Jenkins wrote:

Is it just me or does anyone else find the whole 'cast of characters' thing over on Renner's blog a little strange?
Idk, I guess it's just the way it comes across but it comes off as weird to call it a 'cast of characters' like they're actors in a play or something like that. Generally the term cast is used in reference to plays & movies, etc; it just sounds strange when it's used to describe real people who are involved in a real missing persons case that is in all likelihood a murder case.
At best it appears that his blog has become the tmz.com Maura Murray's friends and family.
At this point his blog is doing absolutely nothing in the way of trying to find Maura but more just to dig up whatever dirt he can on the people that she knows, it's a rag sheet & nothing more as far as I can tell.
Good example: talking about Kate Markopoulos he mentions that her dad once served time in prison for tryin to blow up his neighbor. There ain't nobody who can say that info has anything to do with mm or the search for her, that is strictly dirt dug up on one of her friend's family. I can't see any possible purpose that serves but to try to attract readers to his blog who are hoping to find the newest dirt on MM & her group of fiends & family.
His blog has degenerated to a tabloid & nothing more; it's sucks because I had hopes that maybe with some sort of higher profile he could turn the screws a little bit on LE an possibly get some more info out of them as to what they think really happened, but it's clear that ain't happening.
If the thesis of his book is that she ran away & her family helped her his book is going to be a joke, sadly it appears that's what's gonna happen.

It'll be interesting to see what makes it into his book. I wonder how much of this stuff he posts is just his way of trying to get certain people to talk to him. Seems ineffective.

I think it was Hannah who recently mentioned the book about the McStay family. I was really looking forward to that book but then it turned out to be mostly a lot of background info on the family and business associates, and some theories that have been gone over for years in forums, without a lot of new info. The family members were against the book being written.

Almost seems like a big waste for these authors. It would maybe be a better use of time to focus on families who want a book and the publicity. I think it would make for a better book and also helps a family who wants it. There are plenty of missing people's families who would love the publicity.

I've enjoyed reading Renner's interviews and the public records he posted. But honestly I don't have high expectations for the book at this point, especially considering the turn his blog has taken lately.

Jenkins wrote:

Is it just me or does anyone else find the whole 'cast of characters' thing over on Renner's blog a little strange?
Idk, I guess it's just the way it comes across but it comes off as weird to call it a 'cast of characters' like they're actors in a play or something like that. Generally the term cast is used in reference to plays & movies, etc; it just sounds strange when it's used to describe real people who are involved in a real missing persons case that is in all likelihood a murder case.
At best it appears that his blog has become the tmz.com Maura Murray's friends and family.
At this point his blog is doing absolutely nothing in the way of trying to find Maura but more just to dig up whatever dirt he can on the people that she knows, it's a rag sheet & nothing more as far as I can tell.
Good example: talking about Kate Markopoulos he mentions that her dad once served time in prison for tryin to blow up his neighbor. There ain't nobody who can say that info has anything to do with mm or the search for her, that is strictly dirt dug up on one of her friend's family. I can't see any possible purpose that serves but to try to attract readers to his blog who are hoping to find the newest dirt on MM & her group of fiends & family.
His blog has degenerated to a tabloid & nothing more; it's sucks because I had hopes that maybe with some sort of higher profile he could turn the screws a little bit on LE an possibly get some more info out of them as to what they think really happened, but it's clear that ain't happening.
If the thesis of his book is that she ran away & her family helped her his book is going to be a joke, sadly it appears that's what's gonna happen.

The title of his blog is My Search For Maura Murray. Can he tell us where she is NO.

amy researches "It'll be interesting to see what makes it into his book. I wonder how much of this stuff he posts is just his way of trying to get certain people to talk to him. Seems ineffective." It has definately been inaffective.Obviously his tactics have back fired .As one poster said way back it is yellow journalism.

Renner's method is obviously not very effective in this case, I can see why the family didn't want to speak to him bc they felt his blog was going to be exactly like it is now, nothing more than a tabloid on the Internet digging up dirt on Maura's friends and family.

He ain't gonna find Maura, not happening. I find the comments section rather funny though, it's a bunch of cheerleaders talking about how close he is to breaking the case wide open. Lol
Yup, Maura sister got busted growing weed 7 years after Maura went missing, case is solved. It's just funny how a lot of people seem to think digging up inconsequential dirt on her past is somehow going to solve the case.

I equate Renner's writings suitable for tabloids such as the "National Enquirer"..(if indeed that publication is still in existance) AND daytime soap operas.
This would be acceptable for some people.
I have read nothing that even comes close to "Finding Maura"

I didn't start out to be specifically concerned about a missing female I didn't know. I started being interested because of a few sentences from the Woodsville area.
"There is a man going around town being a pia, looking for his daughter" AND "What was she doing up here anyway".
I felt shame and embarrasement for the area of my many years of contentment up there. My father's side has over 100 years in the area, and have shared the last 73 with me. I have a daughter who is sharing with me.
Why would/could I not feel something about Maura Murray,
a daughter missing, up where I felt safe.
Didn't mean to carry on...but, I do wonder why those who find this Topix useless...why keep posting?

This is not related to Maura at all, but these missing women were found alive today. Truly unbelievable. You just never know.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/06/us/ohio-missing...

Shack wrote:

I felt shame and embarrasement for the area of my many years of contentment up there.

Shame is a very difficult emotion to control. It is often miscreated like specifically in your case, or in the case of a rape victim feeling shame.

amy researches wrote:

This is not related to Maura at all, but these missing women were found alive today. Truly unbelievable. You just never know.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/06/us/ohio-missing...

The first thing that I thought of after reading the article was Maura. Racked my mind why the family wouldn't want to give more details about their loved one because she could be alive in someone's basement.

I wonder at this point if their silence is more for them and not for maura?

Once the new ribbon is up there will be game cameras placed there to capture the culprit who is taking these down.

Jenkins wrote:

Lighthouse- I was honestly asking you that question & expected some sort of answer, I wonder why you don't want to answer it. hmmm

Think what ever you want. I don't want to answer your questions because I use a different approach then you do when expressing opinions. I use reason you use endless words. As if your teachers in high school asked you for reports having to be 500 words you gave them 1000 words, and them not wanting to read it gave you an A. From that point on the more you spatter the more right you think you are.

Your defense in arguments is a gatlin gun of words. Keep spraying them out and because people walk away or fold you think you are right.

I only suffer during reading the posts, but you suffer daily because life is so difficult when you can't use reason. You can convince yourself that anything you say is right just by firing away words.