Maura Murray

Alden H Olson wrote:

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Are you saying that the Saturn, damaged before it left Amherst, couldn't have been driven from Amherst MA to Haverhill NH after dark?
Or probably could not have been driven after dark without being stopped by a cop?

if the headlights were like that, yes.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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What do you mean seperate? Is it like lets make a deal and the reward money varies? Or maybe the price is right and if you get really close you get both showcases?

If you knew this case and followed it from the beginning you would also know about the reward money. Guess not according to your questions.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text> If you knew this case and followed it from the beginning you would also know about the reward money. Guess not according to your questions.

Agreed.....

How did the Saturn get from Amherst MA to Haverhill NH?

When did it leave Amherst?

Alden H Olson wrote:

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Are you saying that the Saturn, damaged before it left Amherst, couldn't have been driven from Amherst MA to Haverhill NH after dark?
Or probably could not have been driven after dark without being stopped by a cop?

Can I ask you something Alden? Do you think the Saturn was towed all the way to New Hampshire? It would help a lot to know what you think without distraction . The rag in the tail pipe could have been her idea to help other drivers see the dark car being towed. Maybe an amateur, some lugnutt or a couple of punks out to do Maura Murray in for something? A couple of creeps from college?----- taking the evidence away---- and taking the driver of the car away------ so they could never be caught for you know what.
What I mean is the Vasi hit, could that have been a set up as in; Vasi was targeted buy some tricky third party? Or might you think it had something to do with the credit card fraud? Court was coming up, and if all this is true and Maura told somebody that she was going to testify against them, I could see either as being a motive. Do you think police would have explored that angle?

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text> If you knew this case and followed it from the beginning you would also know about the reward money. Guess not according to your questions.

do you enjoy making absolutely zero sense?

JWB "James Renner has done more for keeping interest in what happened to Maura than anyone else," How do you figure this? Where was he in the early days and years that Maura disappeared.? What about family,friends and residents in the area that where actually involved in the case and actively searching for Maura when she disappeared disappeared from day one?

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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What do you mean seperate? Is it like lets make a deal and the reward money varies? Or maybe the price is right and if you get really close you get both showcases?

Lighthouse, there were two separate rewards offered - the one you noted for $75,000 put forward by Let's Bring Them Home in 2007, and the one initially offered by Maura's family for $40,000, as noted in an article dated 3/24/2004 in the Caledonian Record:

"[Sharon]Rausch said she also has enlisted the help of Beth Drewniak of Hanson, Mass., to help distribute the posters. She said Drewniak's daughter grew up with Murray.

'We are hoping $40,000 will (jog) someone's memory,' she said.

The posters show a picture of Murray with her classic big smile and dimples. It says $40,000 will be paid for any information leading to her safe return."

There are other references to the $40,000 on different websites if you do a search for MM and 40,000.

http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php...

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text> If you knew this case and followed it from the beginning you would also know about the reward money. Guess not according to your questions.

No I haven't been following this case since the beginning. Still don't follw this case that much. It's not that important to me.

I don't fault you citigirl you spent a lot of time and money traveling to NH to find your way into this family saga. I understand that the only return on investment you will ever get, is the satisfaction of telling posters like me that I wasn't there at the beginning. Every week you try to throw out some tidbit to show us readers that your in the "know" maybe I know 20% of this case, and you know 22%. Doesn't mean that much to me.

Maruchan wrote:

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Lighthouse, there were two separate rewards offered - the one you noted for $75,000 put forward by Let's Bring Them Home in 2007, and the one initially offered by Maura's family for $40,000, as noted in an article dated 3/24/2004 in the Caledonian Record:
"[Sharon]Rausch said she also has enlisted the help of Beth Drewniak of Hanson, Mass., to help distribute the posters. She said Drewniak's daughter grew up with Murray.
'We are hoping $40,000 will (jog) someone's memory,' she said.
The posters show a picture of Murray with her classic big smile and dimples. It says $40,000 will be paid for any information leading to her safe return."
There are other references to the $40,000 on different websites if you do a search for MM and 40,000.
http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php...

Thanks Maruchan. I do know there was two rewards, but citigirl has made reference that the $75,000 reward never existed. Then for her to clarify she starts into her "I was there from the beginning bs..."

citigirl wrote:

JWB "James Renner has done more for keeping interest in what happened to Maura than anyone else," How do you figure this? Where was he in the early days and years that Maura disappeared.? What about family,friends and residents in the area that where actually involved in the case and actively searching for Maura when she disappeared disappeared from day one?

Let me re phrase :Renner is doing more at this stage of the game than anyone to keep Maura in the limelight. I think it is a good thing that people care and want to support the effort to help find her.
She has been missing over 9 years and this case is being handled by a CCU that is well undermanned for the backlog of cases. James Renner gives an opportunity for someone to come forward with info in an anon way that they might not otherwise feel comfortable doing. I would be appreciative of his efforts if it was my daughter missing.
If family had just come forward and talked to him, I would be certain that many of his postings (that put some in a bad light) would not have been written. Renner asked early on for contact and only met up with the door shut on him.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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No I haven't been following this case since the beginning. Still don't follw this case that much. It's not that important to me.
I don't fault you citigirl you spent a lot of time and money traveling to NH to find your way into this family saga. I understand that the only return on investment you will ever get, is the satisfaction of telling posters like me that I wasn't there at the beginning. Every week you try to throw out some tidbit to show us readers that your in the "know" maybe I know 20% of this case, and you know 22%. Doesn't mean that much to me.

Thanks for that post Lighthouse.My sentiments exactly.

Alden- The car was driven to NH from umass by Maura Murray.
There was a witness who saw her in the parking lot or leaving the parking lot around 3:30, iirc.
At this point there is absolutely no reason to think otherwise.

Nobody but you has ever reported her car being damaged in any way before it left umass. Nobody has ever provided anything even resembling evidence that it wasn't actually her at the WB curve that night.

Why would anyone think that it wasn't MM driving the car? Why would anyone think that the car wasn't driven to NH? How else did it get to the WB curve to crash like that?

These questions you're asking are just ridiculous. You've completely made up this story about the 'BSG', you've completely made up the story about your yard being vandalized....why?

The REAL questions here are what were you doing in NH when she went missing? I find it VERY hard to believe that YOU were up there to go cross country skiing.
are you or are you not the driver of the red truck with mass plates?

The biggest question I have is why are you making up stories to try to manipulate public perception of this case? Why are you trying to convince people that her car was damaged when there's no evidence of that whatsoever? What do you have to gain by making this shit up?

Oh yea & if you talked to 'BSG' in 2008, like you said on your blog, then why were you posting a few months ago saying that the vasi hit & run was a hate crime & that LE didn't investigate it at all because he was Muslim??? How does that make any sense?

Why should anyone at this point not think that you were involved in her dissapearance? Is it just a coincidence that tang confirmed that you owned a red truck in 04 & the reason u have the BW ski pass is bc you were in the area the night she went missing & NOW you're going on & on about damage to her car before it left & even going so far as to make up the story about the BSG??
No wonder the PI asked you if you killed Maura, my god man.

Lighthouse- this case isn't important to you???? Really??

Then why are you constantly on topix posting about it?
Do you really have nothing better to do with your life then sit online all day posting about something that isn't important to you?

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Thanks Maruchan. I do know there was two rewards, but citigirl has made reference that the $75,000 reward never existed. Then for her to clarify she starts into her "I was there from the beginning bs..."

No where did I ever state the 75,000 reward never existed. Show me the posting where I said this. I have never claimed to be there in the beginning. I have always stated I became involved in the search for Maura on March 16,2004 Lighthouse 101."I was there from the beginning bs..." This is your quote not mine.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>No where did I ever state the 75,000 reward never existed. Show me the posting where I said this. I have never claimed to be there in the beginning. I have always stated I became involved in the search for Maura on March 16,2004 Lighthouse 101."I was there from the beginning bs..." This is your quote not mine.

A month ago I made mention to 75K reward and you said there was a 40K reward. Doesnt really matter to me, if someone else wants to fact check it they can.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Thanks Maruchan. I do know there was two rewards, but citigirl has made reference that the $75,000 reward never existed. Then for her to clarify she starts into her "I was there from the beginning bs..."

There is a poster that specifies a 75 k reward so it must have existed. I am to tired and lacking interest to bother to go find it but it does exist. It was actually the same poster that I had put up.

Wiki:

"The Arkansas group Let's Bring Them Home offered a $75,000 reward in 2007 for information that could solve her disappearance."

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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A month ago I made mention to 75K reward and you said there was a 40K reward. Doesnt really matter to me, if someone else wants to fact check it they can.

I absolutely remember that post .

Jenkins wrote:

Lighthouse- this case isn't important to you???? Really??
Then why are you constantly on topix posting about it?
Do you really have nothing better to do with your life then sit online all day posting about something that isn't important to you?

I post on topix because it helps me present arguments and keeps my debate skills fresh. I do learn some lessons from some posters like Maruchan, Snowy, WTH Bill, and FRMLE. Not saying I don't learn anything from anyone else, but those are the first ones that come to mind.
I even learn some things from you. Mainly things from your behaivor and not from your posting substance.
Me coming onto a forum and reading a post takes all but 5 minutes to complete this task. 10 to 15 minutes if you have blessed us with three long posts in a row. Logic and debate needs to be kept fresh. I rather not argue polotics, and at any given moment I can present one idea and there will be posters expressing their opinions on this forum.