Maura Murray

amy researches wrote:

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Looks like the writer used a press release as a jumping off point for writing his article maybe?
I only posted it because it establishes that Stevens was involved within a month of when Maura disappeared, not a few months later as Tang stated.

Sorry....wrong on the amt. of time but states "He was involved"

He was still not employed or hired by Fred Murray or any family member.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Sorry....wrong on the amt. of time but states "He was involved"
He was still not employed or hired by Fred Murray or any family member.

Understood. I only posted it for reference on when he became involved.

I have no idea who hired him or if he was volunteering his time. I've never seen it mentioned in the media.

amy researches wrote:

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Understood. I only posted it for reference on when he became involved.
I have no idea who hired him or if he was volunteering his time. I've never seen it mentioned in the media.

Thanx Amy......Appreciated.....John

BillNH wrote:

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Yes but if I don't answer I will be the next one accused.

That's what I was trying to say towards you about a month ago when I brought up the whole "have you cleared you cookies/ever posted from PA", I think you may have taken what I said the wrong way because I have a weird way of getting my point across, but I know, and others can see, what they are trying to say to you about that mans property in PA cus you posted from a PA IP....

Emmett Dove wrote:

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That's what I was trying to say towards you about a month ago when I brought up the whole "have you cleared you cookies/ever posted from PA", I think you may have taken what I said the wrong way because I have a weird way of getting my point across, but I know, and others can see, what they are trying to say to you about that mans property in PA cus you posted from a PA IP....

I didn't even know RF had property in PA until this week. Still no idea how that happened, was a new Iphone even...no cookies to clear.

Alden H Olson wrote:

The MA PI, who was very quickly brought into Maura's case by her father, is a certified auto accident reconstructionist and almost certainly saw the Saturn very shortly after Maura disappeared. Since the MA PI works out of the Amherst area and deals partly with accident reconstruction and fraud, he was very likely acquainted with BSG, who, at the time, worked nearby.

ok. thx for finally answering your own questipn. helpful.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

<quoted text>. Has Fred every come out and ever proved that he was working that day?

no. there is no verification from official sources to confirm FM's whereabouts immediately after it was determined she was missing.
quips, hearsay and stories about his availability are unreliable sources.

BillNH "His house sits quite a ways back from 112 and BHR and the driveway is up BHR closer to the house" He was living in his trailer which was right next to his house at the time Maura disappeared. The location of the trailer was closer to BHR.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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IF Forcier is telling the truth about that night....thene there is NO WAY IN HELL IF He saw that person running down the road and then arrived @ His home @ the corner of BHR and Rte. 112 He would DEFINITELY would had to have seen all the Red and Blue lights flashing.
So unless He is a complete Dummy, which He is not, It would not have taken Him that long to put together the connection. Plus all the LE and family presence after Wed. the 11th.
SO....WAS HE REALLY HOME.....did Maura go to His door....?
Scent dogs stopped right in front of his house.....

I just went to the Saturn crash site. It is definitely possible, if RF came home on BHR that he would not have seen anything happening at the crash site. A vehicle with flashing lights would have to be to the east of where the Saturn rested, which is basically in front of his house although at a distance. A vehicle to the west of the Saturn would be nearly invisible. If he pulled in his driveway and parked next to the house like the current owner does then he would not see much at all, trees and the neighbors house block the view.

citigirl wrote:

BillNH "His house sits quite a ways back from 112 and BHR and the driveway is up BHR closer to the house" He was living in his trailer which was right next to his house at the time Maura disappeared. The location of the trailer was closer to BHR.

HA. Excellent point citigirl. But may still support my assertion. If the trailer sat below the driveway then it would have completely blocked his view unless he looked out his windows on that side of the trailer.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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My memory isn't what it used to be but wasn't her dog in the house and spotted people through a glass door or window?

Wowzer looking4amoose did state her dog was in the house. From what I recall she had stated people were on her property and thats when the dog ran through the glass door. Thats when she had posted that she had electical fencing if Im remembering correctly under ground.It may take awhile but I could go back this weekend to see if her posterings are still there if you would want me to.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Wowzer looking4amoose did state her dog was in the house. From what I recall she had stated people were on her property and thats when the dog ran through the glass door. Thats when she had posted that she had electical fencing if Im remembering correctly under ground.It may take awhile but I could go back this weekend to see if her posterings are still there if you would want me to.

No don't bother. It's really not that important to me.
I just try to keep things straight.
She probably had the electric zapper thingy (not sure what you call it). The dog wears a special collar and if it goes over the line it gets a zap. It would not bother trespassers though unless they were wearing the collar.

Alden- why just you insist on continuing this charade about 'BSG'???
He doesn't exist, well he exists but he never said anything about any damage to her Saturn, you know it, I know it & it seems like everyone else posting here knows it too.

You are lying, plain and simple.

Why are you now making up stories about damage to her Saturn while in Amherst?? What do you have to gain from people thinking that she hit vasi??

I hope you realize that it is gonna backfire on you, all you're doing by making this shit up is making people think that you did kill Maura.

I find it very interesting, & obviously not a coincidence that you only started saying this after it was said that you were in NH drivin a red truck at the time she went missing.

Do you really think everyone is that stupid to not know you're lying??

I thought the vasi hit & run was a hate crime & was never investigated bc he was a muslim, that's what you were saying before it was known that you were in Nh drivin a red truck.

Jeez, no wonder why PI's were asking if you killed Maura. You're clearly a good suspect.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Sorry....wrong on the amt. of time but states "He was involved"
He was still not employed or hired by Fred Murray or any family member.

Would be quite interesting to know who/what got him involved.

Read the latest Renner post, which reminded me of the strange comments at the time the ID disappeared videos were posted to youtube. Someone posted comments like "I´m happy the b*tch is dead" or something similar. Maybe the same person who wrote the email? Just a thought.

BillNH wrote:

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HA. Excellent point citigirl. But may still support my assertion. If the trailer sat below the driveway then it would have completely blocked his view unless he looked out his windows on that side of the trailer.

Not sure what you mean by if the trailer sat below the driveway. The front of the trailer as well as the front of the house were both facing rt 112.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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He was lying to You.!
Did He say "He was working on the case on behalf of Fred Murray".?
Have You talked to Fred personally....?
I know You have issues with RC. Stevens, but do not bring Fred into Your vendetta against Stevens for the way He treated You.

My statement should have said...."Was He lying to You".?

I don't think so Alden..!

RC. Stevens is not a liar, He is a professional.

Just wanted to clear that up.....

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Thanx Amy......Appreciated.....John

John, do you know what the PIs do with the information they gather? Do they turn it over to LE and the family? I'm just wondering how it works.

amy researches wrote:

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John, do you know what the PIs do with the information they gather? Do they turn it over to LE and the family? I'm just wondering how it works.

As PI's We are required BY LAW to turn any and all evidence found that may be relevant to the case.

Family does not recieve any info from LE and PI's do not send them enough in My opinion. They ask more questions than anything else.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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As PI's We are required BY LAW to turn any and all evidence found that may be relevant to the case.
Family does not recieve any info from LE and PI's do not send them enough in My opinion. They ask more questions than anything else.

Thank you. It seems many PIs assist in these missing person cases, so I have wondered what the chances are that important info might slip through the cracks somewhere along the lines.