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Maruchan wrote:

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Yeah, this is total bull. Just another example of his attempts to manipulate people here.
Thanks CC for posting that information. That is the true John Green. He is simply doing his passive aggressive stuff again, and his goal is to get all the people he hates to buy into his manipulative apologies so he can coax them into sharing personal info with him so that he can then do exactly what he has done to CC. If anybody thinks that post to CC was an apology, they need to read it again - same passive aggressive shit with not only no apology, but many insults and egotistical thinking. Let's break it down:
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This says it all - he did nothing wrong, he isn't apologizing.
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Insulting; "things" was disagreeing with Green and stating their own opinions.
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Minimizing, mischaracterizing, bullying - Green called CC jackass, dumbass, asshole and other insulting names, and threatened several times to not only report him to LE, but to share his personal information with 250 people on his blog.
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Should have stopped at "that," but invalidates any apology and shifts responsibility by placing blame on CC for Green's behavior. Similar to "sweetheart I wouldn't have beaten you up if you hadn't ..."
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This is just basically, waaaaaaaaaahhhhh, you can only play in my sandbox if you do everything my way. I'm sure there are more technical terms, but I'm tired.
Everything we have seen of Green prior to these posts is the real Green. The emails to CC is the real Green. The nasty attitude to other posters that he has shown for over a year on Renner's blog is the real Green. This quote by Green to CC is really what he is doing: "U r trying to get me to forgive ur behaviors bc u want me to like u but u don't admit to urself the nature of ur behavior. It is the equivalent of a ten year old." He is trying to get you to forgive him because he wants to lull you into trusting him, then beat you up again. He is a narcissistic passive-aggressive abuser who wants nothing good for people here - beware.

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SnowyB wrote:

Cc - sorry for the cut 'n paste below. i was just looking back at your post that i must have skimmed over earlier when i was in a hurry.
the threatening tone and out-of-control public, vulgar name calling is over the top, especially if you are a woman which, in my opinion, still matters. if you are male, it is not any more acceptable.
there's a good amount of projection, and the content falls way outside of the limits of safe to maintain any kind of contact.
the personalized attacks in more than one email are disproportionate to the matter at hand, and i doubt this is happening in isolation.
the post copied below raises multiple flags and alerts to any poster with a rational mind.
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JG
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U need help. U are weirdly obsessed with me. Last warning asshole
JG
Subject: Re
I have never talked about you but once in my final comment to Renee's blog. I answered ur comments. U r simply embarrassed at how stupid ur comments made u look. U also lie to urself and sort of know it intuitively. I did not make u look like the jack ass u r regarded now as being. U did that to urself but can't face it so u blame me. U really should read that book people of the lie as well as the road less travelled. In any case, u r now harassing me. I have asked u twice to stop conta ting me when u ignored it. You are scary and unbalanced person. If I contact me again, I will not to publicize the information in my filing papers against u, including by sending copies to the more 250 contacts I have via runners blog to warn them of another possibly dangerous character. U r trying to get me to forgive ur behaviors bc u want me to like u but u don't admit to urself the nature of ur behavior. It is the equivalent of a ten year old.
I don't read ur messages but I am forwarding them all to law enforcement and the da of buncombe.
For the third and final time I demand that you stop sending me unwanted, angry emails. It constitutes harrasent. You need to stop. I will file both criminal and civil charges against u and public all the information on the filing papers. I know of already at least two other people who u have harassed in the past. Stop contacting me or u you will be subject to civil and possibly criminal penalties. I am not ur friend or associate and ur repeated contacts are unwanted. I have you repeated times to stop. The next email u send me or contact u make with me on any way will trigger the aforementioned consequences. If u think I am kidding try me. I'd rather not waste time on u but I despise liars and self centered people who think with with pointless self centered logic, unable to see a world beyond their wants. I will not respond to ur emails anymore and I don't read them beyond a glance. If u think I am kidding about nailing u for ur harrasmeny, try me asshole. I would like nothing more than to put u on display for what u are.
STOP COMTACTING ME you obsessed wanna be ass wipe
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And wire fraud

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Det Columbo wrote:

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Don't know John Monaghan personally.
As far as BoS....town government, forget it.!
John

Tang Zoi wrote:

I met the new Chief John Monaghan in the first week of His employment.

Personally I find John to be a perfect fit for our community. Several conversations with him has certainly solidified His positive interest in the town and its residents.
I have also met Mac Cashin the Sgt. and He as well is a nice fit in the town of franconia.

Went to school with Gary Pilotte the other officer in Franconia. He has always been a down to earth person, friendly and courteous.
The town of Franconia is in great hands.

Thank You......John

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JWB wrote:

you are a bitch and a mean person Snowey!

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Simply Sarcasm wrote:

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I pity you.
My first inclination was to rip you to shreds for verbally heckling Snowy (in your oh-so-eloquent fashion -'bitch and a mean person!').
But why bother? Much like in real life, here at Topix you are a nothing. A zero. A waste of space.
Just entirely void of importance to anyone posting or lurking.
Perhaps even meaningless to everyone in your RL - and that is the pathetic part.

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Contagiously complicated wrote:

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I am definitely a woman. Green has even thrown my real name in a comment on Renners blog. So he knows he's communicating with a female in that manner.
The part I found most interesting was "And wire fraud". I have no idea how that came into it.

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Contagiously complicated wrote:

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I am definitely a woman. Green has even thrown my real name in a comment on Renners blog. So he knows he's communicating with a female in that manner.
The part I found most interesting was "And wire fraud". I have no idea how that came into it.

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A wolf in sheeps clothing. Sly and cunning. Throwing a sticky trap out there by making feeble attempts to apologize for his rudeness and name calling and hoping the victims that he verbally assaulted will forgive and forget.

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Really?
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Oh good.

Maruchan wrote:

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IMHO, Beagle posted ONE disturbing video that could be taunting the Murray family, or also could be taunting the people on Topix and the other MM sites he has participated in over the years. Most of the other videos definitely are aimed at Topix posters and all kinds of people he thinks are involved in Maura's case. Others are aimed at you and the people in media who covered his story and said horrible things about him. He undoubtedly posted a video of your son in retaliation for you revealing his identity on your blog and putting his face on international news, thereby endangering his life. Look at the comments just on your blog from people that wanted to harm him. I particularly like this one:
"Coward f___ just took it down AS I WAS READING IT AND WRITING A COMMENT ON YOU TUBE with my John.Green google account. What a doofus. I am not a violent man and I believe in compassion, but if I am ever face to face with this jackass and unless he is somehow implicated (maybe trying to throw the scent for Maura to protect her privacy)... in other words, if he's just doing this for the hell of it, I will teach this young man some manners."
(There's that "I am not a violent man ... but" thing again).
You have now changed your original statement on your blog from "a relative" to "relatives" that Beagle allegedly threatened. Next time it will be "hundreds." Also, if those "charges" had gone on to a conviction, you would have said that. There's quite a huge difference in being charged with a crime and being convicted of that crime. For instance, you were charged with contempt of court and were convicted of that crime. You have also been charged with assaulting a peace officer and are awaiting trial. It appears that your charges have stuck whereas Beagle's charges didn't, yet you post this information to bolster your claims that Beagle is a dangerous man. Since you claim that you have been falsely charged, why shouldn't we believe that the same thing happened to Beagle?
You have also changed your statement from: "[Beagle] is well known to police" to "is considered a dangerous man by police" - again to make him sound worse. Well known for what exactly? Dangerous how? Explain.
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And here is the answer to your question, at least for me. Apologies to Beagle again, but I do believe that he suffers from psychiatric illness and probably could use some compassionate medical assistance. Unlike you and Green, I feel empathy (look it up) for Beagle because IMHO he has an illness. On the other hand, when you say he "needs psychiatric help," you don't mean that in a compassionate way, you are using it as an insult, the same way Green uses the same words to insult commenters on your blog. Because of these things, I believe that your and Green's constant public use of his real name, all your attacks against him and now your infantile ridicule of him on your public FB page are cruel, mean-spirited and bullying, and I will side with Beagle against your bullying whenever possible.

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John88Green wrote:

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Snowy, with all due respect, you are mistaken.
The dude would not stop contacting me - despite multiple requests - and he would not stop obsessing about me on Renner's page, derailing conversations about Maura.
If he wanted Renner to get rid of me, the appropriate forum was to email Renner, not to obsessively contact me and continuously derail discussions among people who enjoy and benefit from Renner's forum.
I don't suffer fools gladly that is true. And as I said to him in an early post on Topix, I should have left the adjectives out and not been as harsh. But on the content, I stand by it. He was WAY out of line and contacting me over and over and over and over. He or she, I think, challenged me to call him or her and gave me a probably a bogus telephone number. I requested at least 10 times in a 36 hour period that he/she stop emailing me and he/she refused to do so. When I finally posted a threat to do something about it, the email stopped.
You should be skeptical of the thread as posted. You should also informally measure the percentage of posts by various people here, on Renner's site and on my site that pertain to the cae or are vindictive or person in some way.
Finally, "vindictive" - and "uselessly spiting" are good ways to describe his/her posts on Renner's page. There are some serious emotional problems with this person and that is part of the reason I regret speaking so harshly. But as I said, I stand by the substance of what I said - this person was acting incredibly inappropriately and bothersomely and appeared to be OBSESSED with making me like her or him, or validate her or him and WOULD NOT STOP emailing me despite multiple requests. Then this same person posts phony and altered chat/email logs. But given the apparent mental state of the person behind it, I am sorry I spoke so sharply.
The sign of maturity and capability is to make amends and move on. I have tried to do that with this poster. He or she has one issue in life it seems and that is me.
In any case, I hope I can make amends and move on with you.
John
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John88Green wrote:

I have pulled together other sources and other analyses about the weather and road conditions on 112 at the WB curve on February 9.
Would appreciate anyone having additional sources or insights commenting. The context of the road conditions is important to a forthcoming analysis of the crash dynamics that I want to document.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/franconia-nh/...

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John88Green wrote:

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Snowy, with all due respect, you are mistaken.
The dude would not stop contacting me - despite multiple requests - and he would not stop obsessing about me on Renner's page, derailing conversations about Maura.
If he wanted Renner to get rid of me, the appropriate forum was to email Renner, not to obsessively contact me and continuously derail discussions among people who enjoy and benefit from Renner's forum.
I don't suffer fools gladly that is true. And as I said to him in an early post on Topix, I should have left the adjectives out and not been as harsh. But on the content, I stand by it. He was WAY out of line and contacting me over and over and over and over. He or she, I think, challenged me to call him or her and gave me a probably a bogus telephone number. I requested at least 10 times in a 36 hour period that he/she stop emailing me and he/she refused to do so. When I finally posted a threat to do something about it, the email stopped.
You should be skeptical of the thread as posted. You should also informally measure the percentage of posts by various people here, on Renner's site and on my site that pertain to the cae or are vindictive or person in some way.
Finally, "vindictive" - and "uselessly spiting" are good ways to describe his/her posts on Renner's page. There are some serious emotional problems with this person and that is part of the reason I regret speaking so harshly. But as I said, I stand by the substance of what I said - this person was acting incredibly inappropriately and bothersomely and appeared to be OBSESSED with making me like her or him, or validate her or him and WOULD NOT STOP emailing me despite multiple requests. Then this same person posts phony and altered chat/email logs. But given the apparent mental state of the person behind it, I am sorry I spoke so sharply.
The sign of maturity and capability is to make amends and move on. I have tried to do that with this poster. He or she has one issue in life it seems and that is me.
In any case, I hope I can make amends and move on with you.
John
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John88Green wrote:

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Snowy, with all due respect, you are mistaken.
The dude would not stop contacting me - despite multiple requests - and he would not stop obsessing about me on Renner's page, derailing conversations about Maura.
If he wanted Renner to get rid of me, the appropriate forum was to email Renner, not to obsessively contact me and continuously derail discussions among people who enjoy and benefit from Renner's forum.
I don't suffer fools gladly that is true. And as I said to him in an early post on Topix, I should have left the adjectives out and not been as harsh. But on the content, I stand by it. He was WAY out of line and contacting me over and over and over and over. He or she, I think, challenged me to call him or her and gave me a probably a bogus telephone number. I requested at least 10 times in a 36 hour period that he/she stop emailing me and he/she refused to do so. When I finally posted a threat to do something about it, the email stopped.
You should be skeptical of the thread as posted. You should also informally measure the percentage of posts by various people here, on Renner's site and on my site that pertain to the cae or are vindictive or person in some way.
Finally, "vindictive" - and "uselessly spiting" are good ways to describe his/her posts on Renner's page. There are some serious emotional problems with this person and that is part of the reason I regret speaking so harshly. But as I said, I stand by the substance of what I said - this person was acting incredibly inappropriately and bothersomely and appeared to be OBSESSED with making me like her or him, or validate her or him and WOULD NOT STOP emailing me despite multiple requests. Then this same person posts phony and altered chat/email logs. But given the apparent mental state of the person behind it, I am sorry I spoke so sharply.
The sign of maturity and capability is to make amends and move on. I have tried to do that with this poster. He or she has one issue in life it seems and that is me.
In any case, I hope I can make amends and move on with you.
John
John