Maura Murray

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Or was someone close to Mr. Vroom Vroom involved?

I don't think Mr. Vroom Vroom himself has enough money to pay for all this. Unless his backer, Mr. Vroom, Vroom, Vroom, is paying the bill.

Obviously, Maura's family is not paying the bill.
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You've convinced Maura's family that I killed her, but that there's some critical, although to the average person, a trivial gap in the evidence. You've convinced them they cannot get a conviction, so the next best thing is for you to push me over the edge into taking my own life.

Then the person close to Mr. Money Bags will have nothing to worry about.

After all, if the truly guilty person was close to you and you were either very loyal to him or afraid of him or too embarrassed by it all, wouldn't you want someone else blamed? And then after your surrogate suspect is dead, there's no more case to investigate. The guilty person proved he's guilty by his own suicide.
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You don't like the fact that I publicized your telling me that I called the Fretted Instrument Workshop in Amherst in 2008. You don't like the fact that I know where the photos of the Jimmy Buffett Martin guitars on eBay came from.

Who are you protecting and why did you chose to blame me for Maura's disappearance?
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Or are you hoping that someone in Maura's family will kill me?
Beagle

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WTH/Bill's continued BS about the trailer hitch is just bait. What a crock.

A half dozen autobody guys were shown the photo and asked how the damage could have been done. They all answered substantially the same: an overhanging piece of hard material, like a trailer hitch, an ICC bar (on rear of all trailers hauled by a tractor, IOW, big-rigs), something like that. Why? Because there's damage to the hood but no apparent damage to the bumper.

Now, there is a little possible truth to the anti-hitch theory. In 2009, a Saturn about the same year as Maura's Saturn rear-ended me at a traffic light (intersection of N. Maple, incidentally) and while my steel bumper sustained a medium sized dent, her bumper sustained virtually no damage. I think she had a 5mph bumper, maybe a 10mph bumper, which would have simply bounced back into shape after having hit something at a relatively slow speed. So... it's possible that the bumper was, in fact, hit and bounced back, but that the hood damage (obviously) did not bounce back.

But that was not what the autobody guys said. They said it was done by some kind of elevated hard substance. Like - sorry, Bill - a trailer hitch. Or an ICC bar. Something like that. No one was SENT OUT to measure hitches or bumpers.

You're just setting out bait.

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rozShoem wrote:
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People are afraid to contact the police.
Why?

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rozShoem wrote:
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The "problem" originated in NH. Various organizations, agencies...can dance, prance, toss confetti to the wind or whatever in MA.....but the dirtbag lives in NH.
This is just your "opinion, right Roz? Because it appears to look like facts that you are stating and if that's true then it means that you must know who the "dirtbag" is. After all how would you KNOW they live in NH unless you KNOW who it is.
The police would sure appreciate the name of the person and it seems that you're the only one that has the answer.

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rozShoem wrote:
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The "cover-up" did not occur in MA. The incident occurred in NH and the cover-up has continued in NH. The "something" that occurred after the car crash has prevented several people from coming forth. Why? They are frightened and it seems for very good reason. All of the focus on MA is simply a distraction. She had no plan. One might say that like an unsuspecting rabbit, she simply happened to cross the path of that sly coyote.
Have you been to this area where Maura's car was found? Have these people told you they are frightened? Have they told you what they are frightened of?
You still haven't apologized to the NH residents that live in the area where Chris Flynn went missing. You came out with lots of "facts" on that forum too until it was discovered and made public that he was fine and had been living in CA.
You just disappeared to go spew more UNTRUE BS on other forums like this one.
You never verify one single thing that you have stated as "fact".
You know nothing more than anyone else here and most likely much less than some.
If you have an opinion then state it as an opinion.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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This is just your "opinion, right Roz? Because it appears to look like facts that you are stating and if that's true then it means that you must know who the "dirtbag" is. After all how would you KNOW they live in NH unless you KNOW who it is.
The police would sure appreciate the name of the person and it seems that you're the only one that has the answer.
I think a few of you know who the dirtbag is....and have known for a long period of time...and long before the disappearance of Maura. Initially, it seemed people were not reporting this because they were covering up. Wrong. I was wrong, too. People are fearful. All of the focus on MA is a distraction. It is silly beyond belief, but it certainly serves as a distraction.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Have you been to this area where Maura's car was found? Have these people told you they are frightened? Have they told you what they are frightened of?
You still haven't apologized to the NH residents that live in the area where Chris Flynn went missing. You came out with lots of "facts" on that forum too until it was discovered and made public that he was fine and had been living in CA.
You just disappeared to go spew more UNTRUE BS on other forums like this one.
You never verify one single thing that you have stated as "fact".
You know nothing more than anyone else here and most likely much less than some.
If you have an opinion then state it as an opinion.
Opinion? You never state anything you say as an opinion. You are close to the investigation and therefore see yourself as keeper of the "real" facts? LOL. Someday when you are a very old man...you and et. al, will look back on all of the efforts made to protect cowboy coyote (and no, I'm not referring to Beagle). I hope you ask yourself was it really worth it.
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rozShoem wrote:
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I think a few of you know who the dirtbag is....and have known for a long period of time...and long before the disappearance of Maura. Initially, it seemed people were not reporting this because they were covering up. Wrong. I was wrong, too. People are fearful. All of the focus on MA is a distraction. It is silly beyond belief, but it certainly serves as a distraction.
If you KNOW so much, why are you not going to law enforcement with the information?
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rozShoem wrote:
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Opinion? You never state anything you say as an opinion. You are close to the investigation and therefore see yourself as keeper of the "real" facts? LOL. Someday when you are a very old man...you and et. al, will look back on all of the efforts made to protect cowboy coyote (and no, I'm not referring to Beagle). I hope you ask yourself was it really worth it.
how bizarre are your thoughts. how unfortunate and foolish are your beliefs, marked by hysteria. you have zero authority or credibility to make these assertions.

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Beagle wrote:
WTH/Bill's continued BS about the trailer hitch is just bait. What a crock.
A half dozen autobody guys were shown the photo and asked how the damage could have been done. They all answered substantially the same: an overhanging piece of hard material, like a trailer hitch, an ICC bar (on rear of all trailers hauled by a tractor, IOW, big-rigs), something like that. Why? Because there's damage to the hood but no apparent damage to the bumper.
Where did this load of crap come from? Tell me all the people that stated this damage came from a trailer hitch.

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rozShoem wrote:
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Opinion? You never state anything you say as an opinion. You are close to the investigation and therefore see yourself as keeper of the "real" facts? LOL. Someday when you are a very old man...you and et. al, will look back on all of the efforts made to protect cowboy coyote (and no, I'm not referring to Beagle). I hope you ask yourself was it really worth it.
I see you are playing your same games roz. You change the subject to avoid answering simple questions. You act like you know me bit again. You are just spewing more BS. FIRST I haven't seen any REAL facts but if you find any I will be happy to be the keeper. And roz, I will NEVER ever be an old man
No matter how many times you state it. Who the heck is cowboy coyote.? Most everything I do is worth it or I wouldnt do it.

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how bizarre are your thoughts. how unfortunate and foolish are your beliefs, marked by hysteria. you have zero authority or credibility to make these assertions.
I think bizarre explains it all snowy.
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What about the couple that was said to have talked to Maura right after the accident? If they even exist. Was this supposed to have been before or after SBG came along? They should have been extensively interviewed vy LE and PIs, yet we never heard what they said. Important information or bogus story?
In the DI show Fred claimed to know for a fact Maura was headed to Bartlett. Either they must have found out she did make reservations for a place to stay or she did tell someone after all. Or did they find the person who picked her up and s/he said she was dropped off in Bartlett? Since some new ingormation actually did come out after this show Iīm sure they have a lot of info thatīs not been released. After 6― years surely they could release more without jeopardizing the investigation. Even in confirmed murder cases there usually are a lot more released.
Hannah,
While this is not a confirmed case of murder, it seems to be an extra special case, doesn't it? In response to Beagle's remark about the trailer hitch, let me say this. Trailer hitch?! The trailer hitch would be the least of the oversights. Following the car will leave one bombarded with unanswered questions and doubt. Coyote becomes easily enraged, evidentally. Coyote, the scoundrel that he is, philosophically speaking should not be allowed on any campus. Unfortunately, he has had contact with more than one campus. The colleges, universities are not to blame. They have no knowledge of coyote. Most are infatuated by his "charm" and people-pleasing ways.
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Eurobserver wrote:
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IIRC LE stopped a number of red/"reddish" trucks on either Rte 25 or Rte 25C on the very night that Maura disappeared.
It appears that LE very early on knew about a red pick-up truck and that they apparently connected it to Mauraīs vanishing.
Someone must have reported a red truck to LE in order for them to have knowledge about it at such an early stage. We know, however, that witness RO only reported her experience to LE several weeks later, so it would seem that RO couldnīt have been the source for that information at that point in time.
It is also interesting that, again IIRC, all the trucks stopped were on either Rte 25 or Rte 25C.
It would appear that for some reason LE concentrated their resources on checking out trucks travelling in that particular area, and not on stopping trucks on US 302 or Rte 10 (Dartmouth College Highway) closer to the Swiftwater area.
Again, there must have been a reaons for LE to clamp down on red/"reddish" pick-up trucks in a certain geographical area for reasons never made public.
The "red truck" distraction is getting a bit old. Next they'll be describing M as the girl in the red dress. Why not moonbeams and mums....scattered all about the highway that night? Maybe ask the trees what they observed.... At least they'd be less frightened.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
<quoted text> I think bizarre explains it all snowy.
bizarre - bizarrer - bizarrest

don't hold your breath....no legitimate news is forthcoming until you read it elsewhere, and the sources are verified.

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Snowy wrote:
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bizarre - bizarrer - bizarrest
don't hold your breath....no legitimate news is forthcoming until you read it elsewhere, and the sources are verified.
After reading thee last two replies above yours it seems tto get more bizarre by the minute.Its posters like roz thatstate their personal opinion as real facts that confuse and trick people into believing what is being said is the truth when in reality it is just more BS. VERIFICATION is everything and roz has none.
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The "red truck" distraction is getting a bit old. Next they'll be describing M as the girl in the red dress. Why not moonbeams and mums....scattered all about the highway that night? Maybe ask the trees what they observed.... At least they'd be less frightened.
What about moonbeams and mums, scattered all about the highway that night? Come on Roz, what's up? For all you know the red truck was the vehicle used by the coyote as you put it. A cowboy even. If he's been known to get near more than one campus, are you implying that Maura crossed paths with him at some point? I'm sorry but you're confusing me. Do you think Maura was going to some campus in NH? What's your point in all this......I just don't get it.

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