Maura Murray

i, personally, hope Renner will do his own investigative research or delegate it, and not bring accusations forward that have long been debated and resolved.
for anyone bent on pointing fingers, bring your SUBSTANTIATED accusations and findings to the proper authorities.
idiot sub-sleuth online "investigators" are clowns of the azz variety.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I'm just wondering if this was in no way plausable why did everyone search the woods? Is it because everyone is stupid or your theory off?

What do you think they're NOT gonna search the woods?? The had to cover their bases & make sure she wasn't right off the road somewhere. It's theoretically possible she is still even in the woods, however unlikely it really is.

Something that's very telling is that the nhsp has never gone back and searched the woods again. They searched it extensively in the first week when the tracking was still perfect, they searched after CW came forward w his 'sighting', and I think they did a line search after the snow melted, that's it.
Now if the nhsp thought she was in the woods somewhere why have they never looked in the woods again? Why did they conduct the largest criminal investigation in NH history into this case??
Instead of looking in the woods they've done forensic searches on the CW's trailer, twice searched his property multiple times, they've searched other's property as well, but never the woods again.
All you have to do is look at their actions to see what they think of this case and it's pretty much blatantly obvious to anyone looking at this objectively that they do NOT believe she is in the woods and believe that she was most likely killed.

Does this mean mm was definitely killed? Absolutely not, she could potentially be in the woods somehow, all that means is that the professional investigators, the guys who've spent thousands of hours working this case & have access to ALL of maura's background info, her family's background info, etc believe that she most likely was killed.

Again, they don't do forensic searches & apply for search warrants for peoples homes if they think she's lost in the woods, they would look in the woods. This is pretty simple stuff here, they could be wrong but remember that they know a hell of a lot more than anyone else even comes close to knowing about this case.

If they think she's in the woods why haven't they done any ground search since 04??

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

More accurately...and i dont disagree with you...you dont actually believe that there are things to discuss regarding Maura Murray. I Assume thats why you are a major player in what has become the "lets phuck with men who try to discuss Maura Murray thread."

You dont have to assume why im here, so here it is. The profiling and projecting your crew is doing is just as bad as anything youve said you are against.

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Jenkins wrote:

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What do you think they're NOT gonna search the woods?? The had to cover their bases & make sure she wasn't right off the road somewhere. It's theoretically possible she is still even in the woods, however unlikely it really is.

Please reread your post to WTH. You suggested in your theory that she couldn't be in the woods because of :
2.5' of snow
She could be tracked
She had sneakers

I then replied stating if it wasn't possible why did they search the woods?

You state that it is "theoretically possible - however unlikely it is" people don't use resources on "unlikely scenarios" especially when searching for someone who could have been alive at the time.

It would seem pretty stupid to look for something that would have a little chance of success to be found. Do you think Howard Ballard first searched the great lakes for the Tianic to make sure it didn't drift on the current, or maybe he plotted the original course and started searching the waters there?

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this Bud's for you lighthouse

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Jenkins wrote:

<quoted text>I'm not just repeating Internet rumors, that's just stupid.

We know that it is stupid. And that is why you are constantly accused of being an ass clown. You have yet to substantiate one thing that you have posted. You repeatedly are caught in lies and just plain made up shit and when caught you then slough them off as no big deal or that is not what you said or what you meant. You are the reason that some of us stay here. To keep bullshit like yours from being spread through out this story. So unsuspecting people don't think your mutterings are in any way connected to the story. That yours are just flights of fantasy and to make sure others know it. That is why some of us are still here. Well that and of course the laughter. There are few others except maybe shack and jwb make me laugh as hard with their inane musings. And no one who makes my bullshit-o-meter peg as far into the red as you. The needle usually actually bends.

Bill

Jenkins wrote:**Did Floyd kill maura? Who the hell knows, but the fact remains that that psycho is the exact kind of nut that might take advantage of the situation if he heard that a young woman was out alone on the rd at night and LE was already looking for her. That much is true, whether he actually did it Is a whole nother story.**

Again you state that something is true when in fact unless you are a psychiatrist and have examined the man you have no way of knowing that he is a psycho or the "exact kind of nut" that would take advantage of the situation if he heard a young woman was out alone on the road. Are you a psychiatrist Bob?

Jenkins wrote:**I'm not gonna sit here and say he did it, cuz I really have no idea, but I'd sure love to know if there was some way to eliminate him as a suspect.**
Why even utter his name then if you have no idea that he did it or even had anything at all to do with it? What if at the time of her disappearance he never even heard of MM. But yet here you are calling him names and making him look guilty in some way. Do you know for a fact that he hasn't already been eliminated as a suspect?
If you would love to know why don't you call the NHSP and ask instead of smearing people's names on an internet forum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

James Renner wrote:

Question: Was there ever anything that could substantiate a link between Maura Murray and a young Floyd?

I wondered the same thing a while back and was curious to know if he attended the New Years Eve party in Goshen. I believe, if my memory serves correctly and apologize if I'm wrong, that he was 15 years old when Maura disappeared. I basically moved on when I learned that.

Habs wrote:

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I wondered the same thing a while back and was curious to know if he attended the New Years Eve party in Goshen. I believe, if my memory serves correctly and apologize if I'm wrong, that he was 15 years old when Maura disappeared. I basically moved on when I learned that.

You are correct Habs. He would have been 14 or 15. Renner could have done the math himself and probably did, which makes it even more odd that he asked the question in the first place. Even discounting a romantic connection due to his age, there really is very little that could have put them in the same circles with that age difference.

You are both correct on the age.

Did the Floyd family have any connection to the Noble family? Floyd Jr was about the same age as Maura´s younger brother.

hannah_b wrote:

Did the Floyd family have any connection to the Noble family? Floyd Jr was about the same age as Maura´s younger brother.

I don't think they even knew of the family IMHO.
I live close by and I know several people around his age but that doesn't mean that they know him or were friends. Jeesh!

Jenkins' statements are so broad-sweeping, inaccurate and often preposterous that i refuse to break them down to disprove his drivel. he has a limited range of points to make before he begins to repeat himself.

JG moves out, and Jenkins moves in; the comparison is intended insofar as they both manage to become centers of attention. attention-seekers.

i'm glad BillNH is a more patient soul than i and welcomes this exercise, again. been here, done that.

i do agree, however, that Topix-style does lend itself to dropping by and is a release of sorts to chime in and blow off steam by being able to express a strong opinion on a subject that, at least originally, held interest. i, and others, have the perspective and benefit of the long history to consider what is then and now.

hannah_b wrote:

Did the Floyd family have any connection to the Noble family? Floyd Jr was about the same age as Maura´s younger brother.

hannah, you're a reasonable and intelligent person.
if you followed the McKay / Kenney thing, you'd know that circumstance was contained by their personal relationship. Floyd was a passer-by. Floyd's son was, actually, just a passenger.
if you didn't follow it, then perhaps you should have.
Casey Sherman's book was tainted by his poor "investigative" research. whenever facts are missing, there is more body and fill by adding fiction. i hope JRenner's book has more substantial content.

SnowyB wrote:

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hannah, you're a reasonable and intelligent person.
if you followed the McKay / Kenney thing, you'd know that circumstance was contained by their personal relationship. Floyd was a passer-by. Floyd's son was, actually, just a passenger.
if you didn't follow it, then perhaps you should have.
Casey Sherman's book was tainted by his poor "investigative" research. whenever facts are missing, there is more body and fill by adding fiction. i hope JRenner's book has more substantial content.

I´m not implying Floyd Jr or Sr had any connection to the MM case. Since the question was brought up, I only said this b/c I can´t see any connection or common denominator other than similarity in age to a family member. As for the Goshen party speculations, 20-22 yo college students would be unlikely to want a 15 yo present at a party. The idea seems very farfetched to me, and I don´t get why ppl would think Floyd Jr would have a connection to the Goshen party. What would be interesting though, is locating and interviewing ppl who were present at the Goshen party, or even more so, the dorm party shortly b4 MM disappeared. I hope Renner did or will do this. I will assume until proven wrong, that LE did this a long time ago.