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Alden Howes Olson wrote:
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Oh, the ski pass? Where did I get it? Well, there's this place called Bretton Woods. You may have heard of it. They're in NH. They sell ski passes. They sold one to me. Believe it or not, they actually sell these passes. To the pubic. Which, by the way, is XC, not DH. It's amazing how a PR machine like yours tries to hammer away at this. You're like old machinery in a new factory. Ga-Bang, Ga-Bang, Ga-Bang...
Anyone who thinks that finding out what happened to MM is the main event is sadly mistaken. But if it works for you, that's fine. Your'e easily contented. MM is just an out-dated vehicle. It's not about her or her disappearance. It doesn't matter whether she's dead or alive. Sound heartless? Not even close. But very, very sad.
I've often wondered if any of this has ever really been about finding out what happened to Maura.
And I have to agree that this has been a dangerous situation for awhile now. When it goes beyond the walls of Topix it's time to stop it. But can it be stopped?

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Not You wrote:
In saying 'nice TRY?' aren't you implying that intentions exist? What was I trying to do? Was I trying to taunt you?
Intentions can be ascribed or inherent. An informal "nice try" does not even come close to your clinging onto a putatively taunting description that continues for almost two years, which is clearly an object of obsession by your fake army of posters.

But like I said, this is all moot now. Clinging to the vids is lame. You jump on it like it's the only exhibit you have. And it's not even that. How pathetic.

The game has moved on. You're history. If I want to say "nice try," again, I shall. But for you to stretch this out to abstruse philosophical meanings is a sign of desperation. If the vids shook something loose - whether for my own purpose or the general good - if they dislodged something, if they merely heated up the debate and kept the discussion more compelling, then so be it.

You don't care about the vids. You merely want to hang me. Good luck with that.

What is most revealing is your addiction to this notion of taunting, of the idea that they were somehow meticulously planned and had a specific goal in mind. Maybe, maybe not. But that is the wrong way of looking at it because it frames the question as an either-or one. Which is wrong.

You think you have me trapped, that I'm out of my league if I even mention the notion on intentionality. Nice try.

I would never try to compete with you on the philosophical grounds here. I would just say it was a video. A vid which you cannot ever get out of your head. And continuously come back to because you think it will somehow diminish me. Wrong. The arena, in case you are out of the loop on this, is not Topix. It is not some online idiot box. It has gone way beyond that. Good luck with your clinging to something so old and useless.
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Alden,
Where is the new arena?You say it has gone way beyond Topix.What has transpired?

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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I've often wondered if any of this has ever really been about finding out what happened to Maura.
Some has. But the rest is very local to western MA, very dangerous, and a lot more complicated than some WB spin-out.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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And I have to agree that this has been a dangerous situation for awhile now. When it goes beyond the walls of Topix it's time to stop it. But can it be stopped?
I don't think it's necessarily too late to stop it before it becomes physically dangerous, even fatal. I would certainly hope not. But I think there will have to be some serious concessions made. Some kind of serious peace-making. And I will be pretty surprised if that happens. There's just no one to mediate, to settle things down, which would be the best thing for all. LE - according to LE itself - will only become involved after the fact. Very sad.

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Findmauara wrote:
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Where is the new arena?You say it has gone way beyond Topix. What has transpired?
It has not been a sudden black/white transpiration. But it sure was elevated on 21 Nov 2013. And on 4 September 2013.

Here... http://detectivedirtbag.blogspot.com/2013/11/...

...and the previous post speak to it.

Stevens will probably deny it, or have some kind of fancy excuse for it, but it happened. And it doesn't matter to me - nor should it matter to anyone else in my position - the post/story may become discredited. I could't care less. I know it happened. Stevens knows it happened. If there was anyone else in Stevens's car, s/he knows it happened.

I wouldn't say MM is a side-show to what is really going on, but it has certainly served as a vehicle for a kind of continuing battle, most of which is based in western MA. I feel bad for Butch Atwood and Rick Forcier and the others, who were drawn into it, but they are like collateral damage. NWDA couldn't care less who they run over in their zeal to attack, attack, attack.

I'm really afraid someone's going to get killed or badly hurt. Being chased by an armed PI who has a documented history of intimidation is sign enough that things have gone way beyond the arena of online discussion/insults/invective/w hatever. If people insist on standing their ground, which they seem to do, I don't see how this is going to settle down. LE wants no part of it until something bad happens.
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Alden Howes Olson wrote:
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If the vids shook something loose - whether for my own purpose or the general good - if they dislodged something, if they merely heated up the debate and kept the discussion more compelling, then so be it.
Brilliant.
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You don't care about the vids. You merely want to hang me.
Wrong. I wanted to know why the smartest person in the room chose to cast himself as the villain.

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Assclown Q wrote:
I'm worried about DW's mother.
Maruchan is a complete stranger to her but has her personal information!
Maruchan used her personal information to harass her with unexpected and unwanted phone calls.
Don't try to stalk an elderly woman's baby boy. Its not good form.
This is what Maruchan does.

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Assclown Q wrote:
My my, what an ironic statement from an outrageously dishonest person.
You should feel safest giving your personal information to a stranger....youve made enemies of everyone else....with the the type of paranoid babble you've written below.
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This is the best post I've seen in awhile. Couldn't agree more. Of course, now I will be accused of being assclown or assclown will be accused of being me. This is what Maruchan does. She is a hypocrite.

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"Anyone who thinks that finding out what happened to MM is the main event is sadly mistaken. But if it works for you, that's fine. Your'e easily contented. MM is just an out-dated vehicle. It's not about her or her disappearance. It doesn't matter whether she's dead or alive. Sound heartless? Not even close. But very, very sad."

Please elaborate/explain

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Alden Howes Olson wrote:
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Oh, the ski pass? Where did I get it? Well, there's this place called Bretton Woods. You may have heard of it. They're in NH. They sell ski passes. They sold one to me. Believe it or not, they actually sell these passes. To the pubic. Which, by the way, is XC, not DH. It's amazing how a PR machine like yours tries to hammer away at this. You're like old machinery in a new factory. Ga-Bang, Ga-Bang, Ga-Bang...
Anyone who thinks that finding out what happened to MM is the main event is sadly mistaken. But if it works for you, that's fine. Your'e easily contented. MM is just an out-dated vehicle. It's not about her or her disappearance. It doesn't matter whether she's dead or alive. Sound heartless? Not even close. But very, very sad.
Alden, please elaborate on your second paragraph. Should young women, like myself, be scared for other reasons? I would really like to know what you mean.
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hannah_b wrote:
I think Sam Ledyard has some explaining to do. Why claim DW mom referred to MM as the girl who was KILLED if she did not actually utter those words? What´s the gain?
She said "killed."

In my head, I thought about interrupting her to say -- "we don't know that she was killed."

It struck me as strange. I find it even stranger that, according to Maruchan, she later denied saying that.

Maruchan -- you don't honestly believe that James Renner is going to decide to stop looking for him, do you? Thanks to you, he'll probably end up being the subject of more posts.

I wanted to give him a chance to tell his side of the story. But you lied about my intentions and prevented that from happening.

Well done.
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LocoLefty wrote:
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This is the best post I've seen in awhile. Couldn't agree more. Of course, now I will be accused of being assclown or assclown will be accused of being me. This is what Maruchan does. She is a hypocrite.
I absolutely agree.

Maruchan jumped to unwarranted conclusions and got involved when he/she/it shouldn't have.

I just wanted to give David a chance to talk. Maruchan jumped in to silence him.
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Sam Ledyard wrote:
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I absolutely agree.
Maruchan jumped to unwarranted conclusions and got involved when he/she/it shouldn't have.
I just wanted to give David a chance to talk. Maruchan jumped in to silence him.
Sam, you're a self important moron. Honestly. You're no investigator by any stretch. I'm thinking estate law,'cause there is no way in hell you handle criminal defense. You don't have a clue about the real world or how to get results/responses from people.
Just like your mentor,JG, you have this deep seated belief that you are way above everyone else in intelligence. Having a law degree, a decent vocabulary and the ability to string words together to form reasonable sentences doesn't make you smart Sammy boy. In your effort to prove you are brilliant, you are constantly over analyzing and chasing wild gooses...It's hilarious to watch..You're like the naturalist in the forest that starved to death because he had to identify every tree to assess it's potential for harm before he could move past it towards food/shelter. The real story is on the grill back at camp dumbass.
At least two times now I've seen you justify exposing likely innocent people with mathematical equations. Percentages no less. Surely it is okay if there's a twenty percent chance that they are involved...You really went to BC? Shame on BC. YOU ARE NOT AN INVESTIGATOR! You don't have a clue about how an investigation is operated. I've read your blog and I've watched your interactions. You visit a private individual in the name of Maura Murray with no credentials whatsoever seeking information on her child..! I would have punched you in the face so hard your whole family tree would have fallen over and the only fool that would have heard it would have been the idiot out in the forest that is starving to death because he's to smart to walk past a potentially toxic tree to get a burger. You try and turn this around and blame Maruchan for calling the lady to tell her beware?!
I think that there is a twenty percent chance that you are a naïve dingbat Sam and so for the good of this "investigation" I'm going to recommend, for the general safety of your future interviews, your face and your family tree, that you preface all interactions with this statement. Call it a mantra if it makes you feel more intelligent--Hello Mr/Mrs. so and so, my name is Sammy and I'm a self important naïve dingbat with no credentials whatsoever, I'd like to discuss your child's involvement in the disappearance of Maura Murray. Blog on brother, you're going to accomplish great things.. ; )
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Sam, you're a self important moron. Honestly. You're no investigator by any stretch. I'm thinking estate law,'cause there is no way in hell you handle criminal defense. You don't have a clue about the real world or how to get results/responses from people.
Just like your mentor,JG, you have this deep seated belief that you are way above everyone else in intelligence. Having a law degree, a decent vocabulary and the ability to string words together to form reasonable sentences doesn't make you smart Sammy boy. In your effort to prove you are brilliant, you are constantly over analyzing and chasing wild gooses...It's hilarious to watch..You're like the naturalist in the forest that starved to death because he had to identify every tree to assess it's potential for harm before he could move past it towards food/shelter. The real story is on the grill back at camp dumbass.
At least two times now I've seen you justify exposing likely innocent people with mathematical equations. Percentages no less. Surely it is okay if there's a twenty percent chance that they are involved...You really went to BC? Shame on BC. YOU ARE NOT AN INVESTIGATOR! You don't have a clue about how an investigation is operated. I've read your blog and I've watched your interactions. You visit a private individual in the name of Maura Murray with no credentials whatsoever seeking information on her child..! I would have punched you in the face so hard your whole family tree would have fallen over and the only fool that would have heard it would have been the idiot out in the forest that is starving to death because he's to smart to walk past a potentially toxic tree to get a burger. You try and turn this around and blame Maruchan for calling the lady to tell her beware?!
I think that there is a twenty percent chance that you are a naïve dingbat Sam and so for the good of this "investigation" I'm going to recommend, for the general safety of your future interviews, your face and your family tree, that you preface all interactions with this statement. Call it a mantra if it makes you feel more intelligent--Hello Mr/Mrs. so and so, my name is Sammy and I'm a self important naïve dingbat with no credentials whatsoever, I'd like to discuss your child's involvement in the disappearance of Maura Murray. Blog on brother, you're going to accomplish great things.. ; )
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Beagle wrote:
There is now, in my opinion, a distinct possibility that 2014 will see someone get killed or badly hurt as a result of the abundant enmity that has arisen surrounding the disappearance of Maura Murray. Just to be absolutely clear, this is NOT a threat, and NOT a prediction. It's a concern that needs to be voiced - especially after the aggressive stalking and intimidation that happened in western MA on 21 November 2013.
I think your panicking because you're not the focus of the investigation anymore. The online community, for the most part, has you pegged. Not to mention there's a good chance MM is alive and well, and if proven so, these message boards become extinct. That's scary to some people who've woven themselves to ignorant, hair-brained theories. Oh well.
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Ridiculous wrote:
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At least two times now I've seen you justify exposing likely innocent people with mathematical equations. Percentages no less. Surely it is okay if there's a twenty percent chance that they are involved...
When?

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LocoLefty wrote:
"Anyone who thinks that finding out what happened to MM is the main event is sadly mistaken. But if it works for you, that's fine. Your'e easily contented. MM is just an out-dated vehicle. It's not about her or her disappearance.
WHAT! Holy shit! You mean all of this is just for entertainment?

Who would have thought?

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Sam Ledyard wrote:
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Maruchan jumped to unwarranted conclusions and got involved when he/she/it shouldn't have.
kettle, black.

Really? Maruchan got involved when she shouldn't have?

This truly shows how far out of your league you are and probably shouldn't be doing these things. A real investigator would have jumped all over her use of the word "killed". You not only dismissed it, but were afraid to even call her on it! What a waste of an opportunity! A real investigator, LE or otherwise, would have continued to question about the use of the word "killed" and perhaps had gotten some real information from her. Why say killed? Could they know something? Do they know for a fact she is not alive? Now DW and mom are alerted to the interest in them and will be on guard. This is why amateur sleuths should call LE with possible leads instead of doing the investigating themselves. Maybe DW was truly the person with the answers. Your meddling may make it impossible to ever know. Maruchan's warning to the mom is not the problem here, you overstepped your bounds in the investigation of a missing person. DW and mother may have had 100% of the missing information and you blew it. Might be a 0% of ever getting that info now. That's on you, not Maruchan. Well Done!
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Moonlighting Maruchan? Apparenly on numerous occassions in the last day.

Talking to yourself shows your desparation, your anger shows who you really are.
Ridiculous wrote:
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Sam, you're a self important moron. Honestly. You're no investigator by any stretch. I'm thinking estate law,'cause there is no way in hell you handle criminal defense. You don't have a clue about the real world or how to get results/responses from people.
Just like your mentor,JG, you have this deep seated belief that you are way above everyone else in intelligence. Having a law degree, a decent vocabulary and the ability to string words together to form reasonable sentences doesn't make you smart Sammy boy. In your effort to prove you are brilliant, you are constantly over analyzing and chasing wild gooses...It's hilarious to watch..You're like the naturalist in the forest that starved to death because he had to identify every tree to assess it's potential for harm before he could move past it towards food/shelter. The real story is on the grill back at camp dumbass.
At least two times now I've seen you justify exposing likely innocent people with mathematical equations. Percentages no less. Surely it is okay if there's a twenty percent chance that they are involved...You really went to BC? Shame on BC. YOU ARE NOT AN INVESTIGATOR! You don't have a clue about how an investigation is operated. I've read your blog and I've watched your interactions. You visit a private individual in the name of Maura Murray with no credentials whatsoever seeking information on her child..! I would have punched you in the face so hard your whole family tree would have fallen over and the only fool that would have heard it would have been the idiot out in the forest that is starving to death because he's to smart to walk past a potentially toxic tree to get a burger. You try and turn this around and blame Maruchan for calling the lady to tell her beware?!
I think that there is a twenty percent chance that you are a naïve dingbat Sam and so for the good of this "investigation" I'm going to recommend, for the general safety of your future interviews, your face and your family tree, that you preface all interactions with this statement. Call it a mantra if it makes you feel more intelligent--Hello Mr/Mrs. so and so, my name is Sammy and I'm a self important naïve dingbat with no credentials whatsoever, I'd like to discuss your child's involvement in the disappearance of Maura Murray. Blog on brother, you're going to accomplish great things.. ; )

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