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Dear Jesus wrote: Help these people realize that if it were humanly possible to solve this tragic mystery, it would have already happened by now. Help them to get a clue and realize that calling people at home is inappropriate, in light of that fact. Amen. Amen
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SnowyB wrote: <quoted text> Amen Hi Snowy, Did you already know Suzanne wrote the Geocities letter before Sam figured it out?
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Tyler in Pittsburgh wrote: <quoted text> Hi Snowy, Did you already know Suzanne wrote the Geocities letter before Sam figured it out? i don't see proof that "Suzanne" is the author, nor is there veritable proof, to my satisfaction, that the author has been identified. further, what is surmised by a sub-group of online sleuthers has been both unimpressive and inappropriately invasive to private individuals in the name of MM.
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Tyler in Pittsburgh wrote: <quoted text> Hi Snowy, Did you already know Suzanne wrote the Geocities letter before Sam figured it out? the answer is no. the appearance of an accusation is unwelcome, and the suggestion is insulting. that each or any of you continue to target topix posters, one after another, is at once, pompous and pathetic. clearly, the boys are all out of original ideas, clues, and leads; old topix posts are the only remaining resources to beef up a paucity of facts and information.
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Sam Ledyard
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SnowyB wrote: <quoted text> i don't see proof that "Suzanne" is the author.... -- Both observer and Susan posed from Taunton. -- Both had Verizon IP addresses. -- Observer's email address was "objectiveobserver2009 " -- Suzanne referred to herself as "objective observer." -- Suzanne posted for the final time two days before the Canada posts. In her final post, she stated that she she believes Maura is "alive and well" -- words stated, again, in the Canada posts. -- Suzanne claimed that she wrote an article on Pam Smart for the Globe. No one named Suzanne wrote an article about Pam Smart for the Globe. -- When Suzanne started posting again, she used a different moniker (adagio). This is proof. Suzanne was created by someone and posted for two months five years ago.In light of that, I honestly don't understand your blind loyalty.
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Sam Ledyard
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SnowyB wrote: <quoted text> the answer is no. the appearance of an accusation is unwelcome, and the suggestion is insulting. that each or any of you continue to target topix posters, one after another, is at once, pompous and pathetic. clearly, the boys are all out of original ideas, clues, and leads; old topix posts are the only remaining resources to beef up a paucity of facts and information. I think it was a fair question. There were some obvious indicators that Suzanne was observer, so it's reasonable to think that you might have known that she was (or at least suspected it). For the record, I believe you. No one's targeting Topix posters. Suzanne was targeted because she intentionally spread false information about Maura. Recall Mason's response; what observer did may be criminal. Assuming that it is, we have targeted possible criminal conduct; not posting on Topix. Putting aside observer's identity for a moment, do you condone observer's behavior? How do you feel about what observer did?
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Dear Jesus
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Tyler in Pittsburgh wrote: <quoted text> Hi Snowy, Did you already know Suzanne wrote the Geocities letter before Sam figured it out? Dear God.
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James Renner
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Going through my notes. Guess who else was from Taunton? Butch Atwood. Very strange.
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Sam Ledyard
Rockland, MA
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James Renner wrote: Going through my notes. Guess who else was from Taunton? Butch Atwood. Very strange. James, whoever Suzanne was, her conduct went way beyond mere trolling. Why spend time and planning to spread false information about a missing person? Identifying her and investigating her motive will be very interesting.
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SnowyB wrote: <quoted text> the answer is no. the appearance of an accusation is unwelcome, and the suggestion is insulting. that each or any of you continue to target topix posters, one after another, is at once, pompous and pathetic. clearly, the boys are all out of original ideas, clues, and leads; old topix posts are the only remaining resources to beef up a paucity of facts and information. Hi Snowy, Thank you for your detailed response to my question.
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Dear Jesus
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Sam Ledyard wrote: <quoted text> I think it was a fair question. There were some obvious indicators that Suzanne was observer, so it's reasonable to think that you might have known that she was (or at least suspected it). For the record, I believe you. No one's targeting Topix posters. Suzanne was targeted because she intentionally spread false information about Maura. Recall Mason's response; what observer did may be criminal. Assuming that it is, we have targeted possible criminal conduct; not posting on Topix. Putting aside observer's identity for a moment, do you condone observer's behavior? How do you feel about what observer did? You aren't worth the time.
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Sam Ledyard wrote: <quoted text> James, whoever Suzanne was, her conduct went way beyond mere trolling. Why spend time and planning to spread false information about a missing person? Identifying her and investigating her motive will be very interesting. I don't know. My first thought is to watch idiots run all over the continent pretending that they are going to solve this case based upon information they found on the internet. I mean if that isn't entertainment I don't know what is. I know I laugh my axx off every time I think about it. A group of stooges traipsing off to Canada to "find" Maura based upon something that someone wrote on the internet. Bill
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Sam Ledyard
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text> I don't know. My first thought is to watch idiots run all over the continent pretending that they are going to solve this case based upon information they found on the internet. I was speaking of new information -- observer's identity.
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Dear Jesus
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Sam Ledyard wrote: <quoted text> I think it was a fair question. There were some obvious indicators that Suzanne was observer, so it's reasonable to think that you might have known that she was (or at least suspected it). For the record, I believe you. No one's targeting Topix posters. Suzanne was targeted because she intentionally spread false information about Maura. Recall Mason's response; what observer did may be criminal. Assuming that it is, we have targeted possible criminal conduct; not posting on Topix. Putting aside observer's identity for a moment, do you condone observer's behavior? How do you feel about what observer did? Look Sam, your so wrong in so many ways here, its ridiculous. Yes you are targeting Topix posters. Yes you called White Wash at home. Yes you actually considered that Snowy knew who the Geocities creator was, yes you asked her if she condones the behavior hidden behind an insincere I believe you. Snowy doesn't need a facts lecture from you about Mason's opinion. I've lost my confidence in your ability to judge what a fair question is. You thought asking if White Wash had photographs from the night of the accident was a fair question after she had repeatedly said she didn't. Your "fair question" was derived apparently from a convoluted interpretation of White Wash's post. You don't seem capable of considering that someone could have constructed the Geocities page to make it look like Suzanne from the Boston Globe. Copy paste comes to mind. Meanwhile Renner here didn't stress the fact that Citigirl may have been purposely targeted. You both act like proxy servers don't exist. Sam acts like he has a definite answer. Truth is we don't have acdefinite answer. This whole exercise has really become a subject to satire. Its a joke. Its been years. Everybody here has put huge amiunts of time into this. And what has this all become? Nothing positive. What is really sad is that some judgement calls have been made exposing certain personal information about Maura's family. None of our damn business. Did it cause Maura to be found? No. So only damage was done. I welcome all you idiots that go snooping around collecting names and emails to go ahead and call me so I can tell you personally just how wrong you are. IN PLAIN ENGLISH NONE OF THE VOLUNTEERS HERE ARE KEEPING CRITICAL INFORMATION FROM YOU.
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Sam Ledyard wrote: <quoted text> -- Both observer and Susan posed from Taunton. -- Both had Verizon IP addresses. -- Observer's email address was "objectiveobserver2009 " -- Suzanne referred to herself as "objective observer." -- Suzanne posted for the final time two days before the Canada posts. In her final post, she stated that she she believes Maura is "alive and well" -- words stated, again, in the Canada posts. -- Suzanne claimed that she wrote an article on Pam Smart for the Globe. No one named Suzanne wrote an article about Pam Smart for the Globe. -- When Suzanne started posting again, she used a different moniker (adagio). This is proof. Suzanne was created by someone and posted for two months five years ago.In light of that, I honestly don't understand your blind loyalty. proof is not a subjective or intuitive determination, and my refuting your claim to proof is my opinion. you also miss the point that if your inquiry has relevance or significance, anyway, it should be pursued by the CCU. i don't believe you have unearthed anything of importance. who is "Sam", anyway? and who tasked you with a MM "investigation", anyway?
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Sam Ledyard
Rockland, MA
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Dear Jesus wrote: <quoted text> You thought asking if White Wash had photographs from the night of the accident was a fair question after she had repeatedly said she didn't. Your "fair question" was derived apparently from a convoluted interpretation of White Wash's post. You told me that she didn't AFTER I called her. We've been through this. Dear Jesus wrote: <quoted text> You don't seem capable of considering that someone could have constructed the Geocities page to make it look like Suzanne from the Boston Globe. I did consider it. I searched the Globe archives for any article written about Pam Smart. None were. The Suzanne who posted on Topix is fictional. Her resume (including the Globe) is fictional. Dear Jesus wrote: <quoted text> You both act like proxy servers don't exist. Irrelevant. Suzanne appeared in over 50 locations in Massachusetts. She surely lived here. Dear Jesus wrote: <quoted text> I welcome all you idiots that go snooping around collecting names and emails to go ahead and call me so I can tell you personally just how wrong you are. Email me a good time to call you and I will. Preferably this afternoon.
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Sam Ledyard
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Correction: I searched the Globe archives for any article written *written by a "Suzanne"* about Pam Smart. None were.
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Tyler in Pittsburgh wrote: <quoted text> Hi Snowy, Thank you for your detailed response to my question. you're welcome, Tyler. i would like to participate more actively this morn, but have time constraints and variable connectivity. will continue to read and reply, if necessary, when i can.
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Sam Ledyard wrote: <quoted text> I think it was a fair question. There were some obvious indicators that Suzanne was observer, so it's reasonable to think that you might have known that she was (or at least suspected it). For the record, I believe you. No one's targeting Topix posters. Suzanne was targeted because she intentionally spread false information about Maura. Recall Mason's response; what observer did may be criminal. Assuming that it is, we have targeted possible criminal conduct; not posting on Topix. Putting aside observer's identity for a moment, do you condone observer's behavior? How do you feel about what observer did? better stated, as you did, as "observer's behavior"; without accusing "Suzanne". thank you. no, of course i don't condone such a statement. realistically, previous topix posters, like Mason, may have attempted to identify the author, and to that end, i haven't felt the earth shatter beneath us. once again, it just makes sense to me that any intended criminal charges would be pursued by the proper authorities, and it is supposed the statement was previously brought to their attention. at what point does one cross the line to interfering with the official investigation? as an aside...the whole Beagle thing was investigated. looks like a zero there, too.
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Dear Jesus wrote: <quoted text> Look Sam, your so wrong in so many ways here, its ridiculous. Yes you are targeting Topix posters. Yes you called White Wash at home. Yes you actually considered that Snowy knew who the Geocities creator was, yes you asked her if she condones the behavior hidden behind an insincere I believe you. Snowy doesn't need a facts lecture from you about Mason's opinion. I've lost my confidence in your ability to judge what a fair question is. You thought asking if White Wash had photographs from the night of the accident was a fair question after she had repeatedly said she didn't. Your "fair question" was derived apparently from a convoluted interpretation of White Wash's post. You don't seem capable of considering that someone could have constructed the Geocities page to make it look like Suzanne from the Boston Globe. Copy paste comes to mind. Meanwhile Renner here didn't stress the fact that Citigirl may have been purposely targeted. You both act like proxy servers don't exist. Sam acts like he has a definite answer. Truth is we don't have acdefinite answer. This whole exercise has really become a subject to satire. Its a joke. Its been years. Everybody here has put huge amiunts of time into this. And what has this all become? Nothing positive. What is really sad is that some judgement calls have been made exposing certain personal information about Maura's family. None of our damn business. Did it cause Maura to be found? No. So only damage was done. I welcome all you idiots that go snooping around collecting names and emails to go ahead and call me so I can tell you personally just how wrong you are. IN PLAIN ENGLISH NONE OF THE VOLUNTEERS HERE ARE KEEPING CRITICAL INFORMATION FROM YOU. very well said; i can't and won't add to your overview, which i regard as correct. thank you.
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