Maura Murray

After Atwood drove away, Faith Westman noticed the Saturn’s interior lights switch on and off and wit-nessed a flurry of activity at the rear of the car, including a person standing at the trunk, according to private investigator John Smith, who spoke with the Westmans after the acci-dent. Smith is one of several retired police officers who have been working on a vol-unteer basis with the New Hampshire League of Investigators

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/franconia-nh/...

sorry….wrong link attached. haste makes waste.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/205888064/Maura-is-...

p 10/31

i recall another reference, but can't access it at this moment.
i was informed by an individual on a recorded line that he is not a PI; i did not solicit that information, it was offered in the course of a related conversation.
the above link contradicts what i was told.
as you say, in any event, it doesn't really matter.

SnowyB wrote:

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i seriously don't know who pomkik is, John. and, no, i don't blame Beagle for everything. and i don't know who Jenkins is, either. for someone who chortles about the identities of others, he keeps his hidden.
i do recall mention in a very early article / media where you were identified and quoted as working with / for MM's family. perhaps your relationship has changed since? neither is a negative….i just believed this to be true. it seems you support the original ideas put forth by the Murray family. again, i'm not criticizing you in that regard….just pointing out an observation.

Sorry snowy....Did not mean to indicate you knew who pomkik was. I wrongly assumed You thought it would be beagle. That's who I feel it is.

You are correct about the media early on. There was even a TV station from mass. that I spoke with at the scene approx. a year after MM disappearance.

However I am working with....But not for the Murray family as well as with many other investigators to help solve this case.

John

Detective Columbo, if that is you, I would certainly like to hear more about your conversation with the Westmans. First: is that you?

Thanks for that Snowy. This is the best version of Conway's article I have seen; complete with all the original pictures.

It's great when people share things like this.

Not Without Peril wrote:

Colombo. You now know my name and occupation as well as Ben's. Yet you keep insisting people have misrepresented their identities.
What's your name?
What's your occupation REALLY?
Thanks in advance.

Excuse Me.....How do I know who You are for sure. Can one trust what one sees here.

I do not know who ben is either. What gives You this idea.?

Wish I did know who You/they are.

I am a retired heavy equip and power tool mechanic. Ex police officer and Cable TV lineman back in the 80's.

John

John

SnowyB wrote:

sorry….wrong link attached. haste makes waste.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/205888064/Maura-is-...
p 10/31
i recall another reference, but can't access it at this moment.
i was informed by an individual on a recorded line that he is not a PI; i did not solicit that information, it was offered in the course of a related conversation.
the above link contradicts what i was told.
as you say, in any event, it doesn't really matter.

Snowy....Is this the guy You met at Dutch treat restaurant in Franconia..?

John

Det Columbo wrote:

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Excuse Me.....How do I know who You are for sure. Can one trust what one sees here.
I do not know who ben is either. What gives You this idea.?
Wish I did know who You/they are.
I am a retired heavy equip and power tool mechanic. Ex police officer and Cable TV lineman back in the 80's.
John
John

Do you question the accuracy of Boston Magazine generally or that article specifically? Why?

As for Ben, he checks out. He sent me a video of him discussing the case. The person on the video is the person who he is reported to be on Renner's site.

You are simply wrong.

Not Without Peril wrote:

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Do you question the accuracy of Boston Magazine generally or that article specifically? Why?

No Sir....That is not what I mean at all. Sorry for the confusion.

Without knowing for certain who You really are .....on this forum I mean.

Are You really __________ from the article.?

That is My true question.

I am willing to speak with anyone about this case but I will also not just speak to anyone without first confirming their identity.

I know Who I am and You know Who You are. But here is where it gets complicated.

How do We proceed My Friend.?

Thank You....John

Not Without Peril wrote:

As for Ben, he checks out. He sent me a video of him discussing the case. The person on the video is the person who he is reported to be on Renner's site.
You are simply wrong.

Well....If He is who He says. Then get him to share the video with Me. Someone who has 10 yrs of knowledge of this case.

I am having trouble trusting anyone of late, Sorry for that but people are being very tricky here trying to get info about people.

Hope You understand.

Thanx....john

OK, fair enough. Ask me to post something on the blog (notwithoutperil . com. e.g., a phrase. I will post it there and thereby confirm my identity.
Then you can shoot me an email. Does that work?

He's free to share the video with whomever he wishes. I, of course, will not violate his trust by doing so.

Not Without Peril wrote:

He's free to share the video with whomever he wishes. I, of course, will not violate his trust by doing so.

I understand that. Maybe once We confirm each others identities maybe You could ask Him pretty please for Me.

Thanx...John

Det Columbo wrote:

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I understand that. Maybe once We confirm each others identities maybe You could ask Him pretty please for Me.
Thanx...John

Sure. OK, here is confirmation that I am me: http://notwithoutperil.com/2014/02/17/the-int... .

Tyler and I would like to speak with you; maybe we could do a conference call? That would confirm that Tyler and I are in deed different individuals and you can hear our positions.

As for Vanderbilt and Green: I have never communicated with the former and I do not communicate with the latter.

Not Without Peril wrote:

Tyler and I would like to speak with you; maybe we could do a conference call? That would confirm that Tyler and I are in deed different individuals and you can hear our positions.

I concur.

SnowyB wrote:

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i seriously don't know who pomkik is, John. and, no, i don't blame Beagle for everything. and i don't know who Jenkins is, either. for someone who chortles about the identities of others, he keeps his hidden.
i do recall mention in a very early article / media where you were identified and quoted as working with / for MM's family. perhaps your relationship has changed since? neither is a negative….i just believed this to be true. it seems you support the original ideas put forth by the Murray family. again, i'm not criticizing you in that regard….just pointing out an observation.

Why do you guys constantly lie & misrepresent what I say? What's in it for you?

I've NEVER tried to figure out Antibes identity, I've never mentioned it, threatened it or even thought about it. I think on an anonymous forum like this people have the right to keep their anonyminity. I've ALWAYS clearly, unambiguously stated this. I don't think it's right for people to dig into other posters & I never will. & that has nothing to do with the fact that digging into other posters will never bring closer a resolution to this case, that's NOT researching the case, that's researching people who comment on the case, big difference.

So where are you getting this crap from? Since when do I care about anyone's identity. Are you talking about bc I pointed out that people could find your identity or determine wowzer's by process if elimination? Turns out it's prolly a little harder to figure out wowzer's than I made it out to be but the point of my post never was to encourage anybody to do this, or give instructions or anything like that. It was strictly, obviously just to point out the paranoia that wowzer exhibits whenever the topic of someone's identity comes up. I was pointing put that people don't care, you guys are living just fine even though anybody can find out who you are if you look.

I'm not paranoid about my identity, I'll email anybody who wants me to, what's an email gonna do? It's not like someone can find out your identity from an email anyways, thats how paranoid you guys are about this shit, you say not even to email someone. Lol.
But why would I possibly want a bunch of idiots who don't like me to know my real name?

Why is it that everywhere else online people use their real names yet on topix maura Murray treads it's talked about as if you use your real name online you're in imminent danger? Do you really NOT see the irony?

Columbo said:
"I am having trouble trusting anyone of late, Sorry for that but people are being very tricky here trying to get info about people."

What info are people being so tricky to get? This implies that there's information that worth being tricky to obtain, does it not?

Something I'm just not understanding here is are there new people that think others have more info that they're holding back from the public or something like that?

Do people really think there's secret info or are they really just bored? It looks to me that once people really dig into this case they realize that there are very few reliable facts to analyze. I think what it comes down to is people run out of real info to analyze & somehow in their head decide that looking into other posters is part of researching the case, which is just straight stupid, obviously, but idk if some people can grasp that.

Does anybody really think pomkik & all the spammers is NOT Alden???
I could be wrong but to me it looks fairly obvious, especially considering the spammer mentions Alden often enough & uses the exact same random caps lock writing style Alden uses sometimes, you know the kind of typing that makes him look like a total nutjob?

SnowyB wrote:

OK - so i'll address the elephant in the room.
who are you, pomkik?
are you different than the poster "Melissa House"?
are you, pomkik, the one who "threatened" "Sam"?
what did he write on his blog that upset you?
did you ask him to take down his blog?

I shall usher that elephant out of Franconia, my dear. I am multi-monikered. I managed to unearth one post. amongst the several thousand I have made, where I posted with the good sense to use the moniker 'melita h'. I do not know how to go about retrieving websites that have perished. The hyperlink http:/www.topix.com/forum/city /franconia-nh/T66DK0TLH7PP4VJ3 6/p1030c#20761 might lend itself to that endeavour.
'Melissa House' has never been a moniker I have posted by, and tracks my name too closely to be any sort of coincidence imho. Is 'Melissa House' Billy Vanderbilt??I cannot say for I do not know.
<3 pomKik <3