Maura Murray

again no snowy just wowzer (real one). Wow more of the same. Dig a deeper hole.Blame everyone else yet make an ass out of yourself in the name of Maura. yea great idea. hey i know lets pick on some someones grammar? no we just did that. lets bash the family ? no just did that? oh yea, this is about maura, lets talk about the red truck.

citigirl this is for you. don't put up with the crap. It is unexplainable to bash on family of someone with a missing person. Have I missed years of conversation? answer : some, but when it comes down to it Citigirl is right when she says she owes you nothing. you are not going to solve the case! sorry investigators.We all speculate and want her to come home , but we speculate and hope.If citigirl had info about other issues with maura do you think she would tell you or LE? This is a forum to have some intellectual conversation and not assault.

with all being said, I believe snowy,Sophie and wowzer (the real one) can offer allot of positives to the search for maura as each is intelligent, however stuck as we all are without clues and are reaching out for answers. the answer is not to blame the family or each other. we need to hold respectfull conversation and that means all of us including me.

no, I haven't changed my name! put that to rest

carry on

That explanation doesn't make sense to Mrs. Rausch, who said she was working with the Red Cross on Billy's leave, and therefore any calls from the organization would have gone to her, rather than to her son.

Distraught
Mrs. Rausch said Maura worked security late Thursday, Feb. 5, 2004, into Friday morning checking students in and out of a UMass dormitory. Maura's supervisor that night said she found her sobbing at about 1:20 a.m. and had to help her back to Murray's room.

The source of her distress, Maura told the supervisor, was a phone conversation with Murray's sister.

Since married, Kathleen Carpenter remembers finishing a phone call with Maura at about 10:20 the night of Feb. 5, but doesn't recall talking with her sister in the early-morning hours.

Kathleen, who said she had talked about troubles with her husband-to-be during the nighttime conversation with Maura, said her sister didn't seem upset.

But, she added, Maura and Billy were having relationship troubles at the time. Kathleen said she takes sleeping pills at night and didn't remember a later call.

"We'd always talk about boy troubles. She was with Billy Rausch and every time they got into a fight or if had a fight with my (now) husband, I'd call her. It was talk, always late at night," Carpenter said.

She believes her sister went to the White Mountains to sort out her troubles with Billy.

"I think it was stress. I don't know what her and her boyfriend were going through," Carpenter said. "I kind of think that might have triggered it. They weren't getting along at that time.

"She wanted to go to a place that made her happy and look at the mountains, and something went terribly wrong."

Campus hit-and-run
A series of reports in Murray's hometown newspaper, the Hanson (Mass.) Express, raised the question of whether Maura could have been involved late that same Thursday night or early Friday morning when fellow student Petrit Vasi of Dorchester was injured in an apparent hit-and-run accident about 112 miles from the dorm where Maura worked.

Vasi's mother, Aprhodite Vasi, said her son has recovered but still doesn't remember what happened to him that night at about 12:20 a.m. Mrs. Vasi was told at the emergency room her son was involved in a hit-an-run accident, but there was never a follow-up investigation, Mrs. Vasi said.

Mrs. Vasi said Petrit remained in a coma for two months and remained hospitalized for a month after that. He had to cut short rehabilitation therapy, she said, because his insurance ran out.

"He doesn't know what happened, and nobody investigated for him," Mrs. Vasi said.

Sharon Rausch doesn't believe Maura was involved in the accident that injured Petrit. Murray couldn't have left her burrito long enough to be at the accident scene and return to the dorm, Rausch said.

Police also don't appear to be pursuing a Vasi-Murray link.

New Hamsphire State Police have stated that Maura was involved in only two recent accidents: the one in which she crashed her father's new Toyota in Hadley, Mass., and another that occurred about 40 hours later, when she hit a stand of trees in Haverhill with the Saturn.

By NANCY WEST
New Hampshire Sunday News
Monday, Oct. 29, 2007
Editors' note: Part 2 of a three-part series:
Whether Maura Murray came to northern New Hampshire Feb. 9, 2004, to end her life is an emotional question her family insists is impossible.
MURRAY
Her loved ones say it is far more likely she was abducted and killed that night after crashing her 1996 cook Saturn into trees about 7:30 p.m., that they were simply all too close for Maura to have been secretly despondent to the point of considering taking her own life.
Authorities are calling Maura's disappearance a potential homicide, keeping most of the records closed in a criminal investigation file.
"A lot of things about the case are unique and troubling," said Senior Assistant Attorney General Jeffery Strelzin.
►Part 1: Four years later, countless questions remain
►What happened? Theories abound
►The Murray family's web site
But, he cautioned, the puzzle simply hasn't been solved yet, so there is no way of knowing the truth about the fate of the 21-year-old nursing student from Hanson, Mass.
Maura's case has seemingly headed in several directions €" from police leaning toward the theory that yet another drunk tourist abandoned a crashed car to avoid drunken driving charges that night to potential homicide.

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Nothing has been ruled out for certain, including the theory that Maura has gone away to start a new life, although that seems the least likely.
Almost four years later, it is still a mystery, but the suicide theory has been hard for the people who love her to even think about.
Early on, her father, Fred Murray, briefly considered Maura may have committed suicide.
When police assembled the Murray and Rausch families to brief them on the investigation, Maura's father "moaned and rubbed his head and said,�Oh, no,' " according to Sharon Rausch, the mother of Billy Rausch, Maura's then-boyfriend.
"I remember Fred said,�I always have told the kids when I got old and worthless I was going to climb my favorite mountain with a bottle of Jack Daniels and drink myself to death.' That was emotional. He thought what if there was something he didn't know about," Rausch said.
She said authorities thought the alcohol and Tylenol PM Maura brought may have been indications she was going to kill herself. "That's what people do, they drink, take a bunch of pills and die peacefully," she said.
But Rausch doesn't believe that was Maura's plan. The Kahlua, vodka and Bailey's Irish Creme Maura reportedly brought with her would likely have been about a week's worth of the drinks Maura liked, Mudslides, Rausch said.
When visiting the Rausch family in Marengo, Ohio, Maura would add Bailey's to her coffee in the morning and drink Mike's Hard Lemonade with lunch, she said. Maura and Billy always had their stash of alcohol because Rausch doesn't drink, but she said Maura didn't drink excessively.
Could she have decided to disappear?
Could Maura Murray have simply decided to run away and begin a new life?
It is probably the least likely scenario police are considering, but something similar has happened recently in New Hampshire, although for a much briefer time.
Laura Mackenzie of Goffstown was an 18-year-old high school honor student when she sparked a nationwide search after disappearing March 8, 2006.
Mackenzie never spoke a word about her disappearance to friends of family members. In five months' time, she did not use her ATM card, her e-mail account or a cell phone.
Investigators followed leads that suggested Mackenzie might have traveled all the way to California.
She had run away to Florida to avoid facing a shoplifting charge.
She worked as a waitress until being discovered in St. Augustine Beach in August 2006. Mackenzie later reached a plea bargain and agreed to pay for her extradition to New Hampshire.
"I am very sorry for the pain, time and expense associated with the search to find me during the time I was gone," she said after pleading guilty to a shoplifting charge in Hillsborough County Superior Court.
Private get-away
She believes Maura left the University of Massachusetts without telling anyone why or where she was going to have a private getaway to think things over.
Rausch believes Maura had all her school books in the car to keep up with her school work while she decided whether to leave school and go to work to pay for the damage she had done to her father's car after crashing his new Toyota the previous weekend.
She said Billy was upset after arriving from Fort Sill, Okla., where he was stationed.
"Fred arrived in Haverhill early Wednesday. We arrived Wednesday around 7 p.m. They interviewed Billy. He was a prime suspect. He was totally distraught. I'll never forget the look on his face. He said 'I feel as pepper paste as Scott Peterson. They think I've got something to do with it.'" Rausch said.
Fred Murray recalls that meeting with police, but remembers talking about a movie he had seen in which an old Indian woman walks off to die when she felt she was too old to go on.
"I hadn't talked about suicide," Murray said. "No, I gave them the analogy of the old Indian woman off the bat," he said. "I remember discussing the old Indian ... It was a freaking nightmare. They just dropped the ball."

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For the next two weeks, both families believed Maura was alive, that she had broken into a cabin because she was a survivor, was in excellent health and ran five miles a day, Rausch said.

The book "Not Without Peril" subtitled "150 Years of Misadventure on the Presidential Range of New Hampshire" by Nicholas Howe was found in Maura's locked car. A gift from her father, the book chronicles tragedies and rescues in New Hampshire mountains.
Rausch said police told the family the book had a photo of Maura's younger brother as a "bookmark" at a chapter entitled "A Question of Life or Death."
But even that is a red herring, Rausch believes, because it was Maura's favorite and she often re-read it, having brought it once on a visit to the Rausch home.
"While it's all true stories about people hiking and either dying or surviving a snow storm, it's also a survivor's manual more than about suicide," Rausch said.
Rausch said Maura was planning to become a physician's assistant after nursing school. She recalled how her son loved Maura, coming home one day to say he found someone with beauty, brains and wit - and someone who could even outrun him.
Maura's father believes his daughter had too much going for her to commit suicide: a great boyfriend, future career and supportive family.
"Maura was such a personality. Everybody would seek her out. She was extremely popular, lively and fun," Murray said.

wow who woke up oo00oo

Vail, AZ ?
someone hit a hot button? maybey a suggestion that she was alive?

oo00oo

Vail, AZ do you know more than you are saying about he vasi incident or are you speculating?

jwb wrote:

snowy,wowzer(real one) and sophEy ( no name change) are sharpening their pencils
and thinking deeply. Instead you should just say to yourself, yea move on. Lets talk about the lyrics of her brother. that clearly shows there was some turmoil and lets not expect her family to tell strangers that blog this stuff or any one else. Look at yourself and really think, would you do that to your family? Of course not! Snowy,wowzer,Sophie you are not going to solve the case! sorry, and they(family) don't have to tell you anything only to LE and that is pissing you off. Too bad. get over it and have good conversation with everyone and not think to highly of yourself that you are the answer.
again, I am not family and I don't know any of you
as far as I know LOL .

well, of course, this makes sense.
however, i came to this forum and pushed HARD for posters to be respectful of MM's family, of her privacy, and definitely for pseudo-sleuths to be very careful about making allegations which would cast a bad light on M's reputation, especially without being able to substantiate those claims.
surprisingly, i found an ugly backlash by a small army of family representatives....a sub-group affiliated with the original MMM forum...bashing away at innocent posters and directly at LE.
i'd like to say, jwb, that this is all in the past....but there have never been apologies to the victims of that campaign...and some of these behaviors continue today on FB in the form of excluding those who don't agree with the moderator.
Wowzer, in particular, is fair-minded, logical, intelligent and humorous; she has personally looked for MM in the early years, and has stood up to relentless bashing by the same sub-group mentioned above.
these mind-games originated from M's family. not a great PR mechanism.
and then citigirl appears to utter and repeat nonsense. go figure.

kitten wrote:

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Sounds to me like he thinks there's more than one explanation for Maura's disappearance, too. These lyrics practically scream that the family knows something more than they're letting on.
I think, being the youngest, Kurt would be the easiest one to get talking. Wonder what else Renner learned from him other than what he posted here: http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2011/08/in-he...

Kurt, if anyone, seems to be a victim of his sister's disappearance. for his sake, i hope he is treated kindly and respectfully by anyone who intends to approach him.

Sorry for all the articles, I just wanted to drown out the troll.

Snowy wrote:

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Kurt, if anyone, seems to be a victim of his sister's disappearance. for his sake, i hope he is treated kindly and respectfully by anyone who intends to approach him.

Nicely put Snowy. He courageously cared for his mother, all while dealing with his missing sister.

Snowy wrote:

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well, of course, this makes sense.
however, i came to this forum and pushed HARD for posters to be respectful of MM's family, of her privacy, and definitely for pseudo-sleuths to be very careful about making allegations which would cast a bad light on M's reputation, especially without being able to substantiate those claims.
surprisingly, i found an ugly backlash by a small army of family representatives....a sub-group affiliated with the original MMM forum...bashing away at innocent posters and directly at LE.
i'd like to say, jwb, that this is all in the past....but there have never been apologies to the victims of that campaign...and some of these behaviors continue today on FB in the form of excluding those who don't agree with the moderator.
Wowzer, in particular, is fair-minded, logical, intelligent and humorous; she has personally looked for MM in the early years, and has stood up to relentless bashing by the same sub-group mentioned above.
these mind-games originated from M's family. not a great PR mechanism.
and then citigirl appears to utter and repeat nonsense. go figure.

I think you and several of the other posters {not all}that have been here for a while should start your own duck club

Snowy wrote:

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Kurt, if anyone, seems to be a victim of his sister's disappearance. for his sake, i hope he is treated kindly and respectfully by anyone who intends to approach him.

I have to role up my pants the sh_ts getting deep here.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I have to role up my pants the sh_ts getting deep here.

Perhaps you might try a toilet, instead of sh*tting yourself. Just sayin'.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I have to role up my pants the sh_ts getting deep here.

And your still a b*tch, even when people have something nice to say.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I have to role up my pants the sh_ts getting deep here.

who is real family if not kurt?
no need to answer. i have a low tolerance for vapid remarks at this point.