Maura Murray

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Well, all this sleuthing of who is who on this forum is making huge strides in finding Maura. I am so proud to be associated with this forum. All these visitors who have that whole CSI thing going on. I shouldn't be, but I am always astonished at how easy they get side tracked. It really shouldn't surprise me. I mean, they have learned on TV that it takes four - fifteen minutes segments to solve any crime.
Bill

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mauracomehome wrote:

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no,I would never allow myself to stoop to the level of lynch mob participant.As Ive said i have been a read only forum member for some time.I finally felt I needed to speak up.The vile hatred of some members here is beyond my comprehension as a careing human being.As a careing person&mother I pray for the day Maura is found.When that day comes the vile people here can crawl back in their caves.Some of us desperately want to find Maura.Nothing else.

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NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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I agree, my stance has been hypothermia which from what little facts we have seems the more plausible. Saying that I do not totally rule out other theories. As you stated Maura was a victim of her own actions, and I feel her actions were not totally rational from the beginning. She left under secrecy, to our knowledge she told no known close friends or relatives, and she obviously was in an emotional state which is only compounded by alcohol consumption. All a recipe for disaster, and it seems the recipe evolved into just that.

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NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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Come on they never solve it on the first 48 until after the last commercial break with two 1/2 hour segments. Then again maybe their detectives aren't as smart as the other programs. The only way to solve Maura's mystery is to have an episode of " on the case with Paula Zahn" I love it when she asks the perp, "did you kill him or her", like they lied to everyone else, but their going to tell Paula the truth on national TV, talk about sensationalism!

mauracomehome wrote:

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Im glad Im not the only one that is struck by the similarities...Were they both being chased7abducted?Or Did they go with someone "Safe" after an accident?

Bumping for Maura wrote:

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Katie,
Please, see me previous response to your earlier post.
I agree with you that Maura was probably picked up by a driver of a passing car, willingly or by force.
However, as I tried to explain in my previous post, I wholeheartedly believe that neither the school bus driver nor the first responding Haverhill police officer had anything whatsoever to do with Maura´s disappearance.
I believe that you likely will come to agree with my conclusion the more you keep reading and learning about the details of this case.

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aftermath wrote:

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MCH,
He is approaching them and not the other way around? Brianna had been instructed to move the car from the highway to that driveway? She was behind the steering wheel when the car hit the building? It seemed the only option. Escape? She was much more challenging than he had anticipated? Once again proves a book cannot be judged by its cover; cannot assess the strength of a young woman in that weight range under these circumstances? Violent, frenzied struggle? She's fighting for her life you know. The adrenalin. He's familiar with the youthful female body in more than the average way and yet had not anticipated this? The steering wheel helped protect her at least for a while? Not as easy as plucking an older lady from her home? Undoubtedly.

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Snowy wrote:

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maybe yes, maybe no. possibly. probably. likely. i don't know for sure. could be.
but where's the body? it should have shown up within the first year or so, if, in fact, she expired. one might hope she is still alive, given there is no sign to suggest she is not. hoping Renner (when he returns) can uncover a link to someone, somewhere. it would seem to be a pretty gigantic task, given all due respect for the official investigation, which remains stalled.

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aftermath wrote:

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Im glad Im not the only one that is struck by the similarities...Were they both being chased7abducted?Or Did they go with someone "Safe" after an accident?
BCH,
The individual behind some of these disappearances and murders is responding to an overwhelming relationship in which he is involved. He is responding to their appearance, they resemble the youthful version of a woman he would otherwise abuse but for whatever reason this is not possible. Mother-son situation? No, I do not believe so. Husband-wife situation more likely. Extremely mixed emotions toward her. There is something unusual about her and their relationship that prevents him from abusing her? Possibly, more than likely.

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NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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Having hiked the area years ago ( 20 or so ) I can say with certainty that finding a body if in those woods is a daunting task. So much underbrush, thick woods, and then the ice storm that put so much debris on the ground I can understand why she hasn't been found if she's out there.
Its an huge area and even figuring out where to start is the million dollar question considering she may have been seen miles down the road. How many more miles did she go, did she take one of the side roads? Having tracked animals that expired in the woods I can tell you one can walk right by and not see it laying there. There are many small pockets, large rocks and debris. Worse part is what remains would be found at this point with animals lugging off bones. Maybe a cell phone, and some material which with all the leaves and such may well have been buried by now.
Same goes for if she's alive, why no trace no valid sighting no nothing. Yes the investigation seems stalled but those of us on the outside don't really know what's happening at the cold case level. Take the Danny Paquette murder in Hooksett N.H., it went unsolved for years until a PI who's name has been on this forum took a look at the case and found out the time of the game that the suspects used as an alibi was never checked out, just the fact there was game was checked into not the time frame. That was pretty much the case breaker. Yet for years we heard nothing new and then an arrest was made.

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NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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Having hiked the area years ago ( 20 or so ) I can say with certainty that finding a body if in those woods is a daunting task. So much underbrush, thick woods, and then the ice storm that put so much debris on the ground I can understand why she hasn't been found if she's out there.
Its an huge area and even figuring out where to start is the million dollar question considering she may have been seen miles down the road. How many more miles did she go, did she take one of the side roads? Having tracked animals that expired in the woods I can tell you one can walk right by and not see it laying there. There are many small pockets, large rocks and debris. Worse part is what remains would be found at this point with animals lugging off bones. Maybe a cell phone, and some material which with all the leaves and such may well have been buried by now.
Same goes for if she's alive, why no trace no valid sighting no nothing. Yes the investigation seems stalled but those of us on the outside don't really know what's happening at the cold case level. Take the Danny Paquette murder in Hooksett N.H., it went unsolved for years until a PI who's name has been on this forum took a look at the case and found out the time of the game that the suspects used as an alibi was never checked out, just the fact there was game was checked into not the time frame. That was pretty much the case breaker. Yet for years we heard nothing new and then an arrest was made.

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Advocate wrote:

With respect to no body being found -- I think I recall reading that there had been helicopter searches using that technology that will spot a warm body, within just a few days of MM's disappearance, and that not only nothing found but also no tracks in snow spotted that could relate to her. I believe the chopper search covered at least a 5-mile radius from the Saturn crash site.
This suggests to me that she didn't stagger off into the woods and succumb to hyperthermia. I believe she was picked up and that chances are good she was picked up by someone she knew.

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Advocate wrote:

With respect to no body being found -- I think I recall reading that there had been helicopter searches using that technology that will spot a warm body, within just a few days of MM's disappearance, and that not only nothing found but also no tracks in snow spotted that could relate to her. I believe the chopper search covered at least a 5-mile radius from the Saturn crash site.
This suggests to me that she didn't stagger off into the woods and succumb to hyperthermia. I believe she was picked up and that chances are good she was picked up by someone she knew.

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Advocate wrote:

With respect to no body being found -- I think I recall reading that there had been helicopter searches using that technology that will spot a warm body, within just a few days of MM's disappearance, and that not only nothing found but also no tracks in snow spotted that could relate to her. I believe the chopper search covered at least a 5-mile radius from the Saturn crash site.
This suggests to me that she didn't stagger off into the woods and succumb to hyperthermia. I believe she was picked up and that chances are good she was picked up by someone she knew.

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FrmLE wrote:

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That is all well and good, except for the fact that by the time the aerial search was conducted the body would have no thermal signature if she had died from exposure.
As far as the tracks in the snow you refer to, there is no technology that exists that can spot tracks that old. Sorry nice theory but it doesn't fly.