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Frostman wrote:
A contributor to this thread recently posted that a dog on Old Peters Road (adjacent to the accident scene) was spooked that night.(A dog was freaked out up on BHR as well, or so it's been said). No neighboring humans report hearing any screams but perhaps a dog heard something... a stifled cry for help?
If "Red Truck" was stalking MM and the perp was a deft and bold abductor he could have lifted MM right from the Saturn. If she already had her backpack slung over her shoulder, perhaps that's why it's also missing? She may not have been on guard having just spoken with BA, the SBD ... maybe just thinking here's another friendly neighbor? Perhaps he even asked her if she'd seen a stray dog or used some other conversational ruse to get her out of the car?
If the SAR Bloodhound lost the scent down the road, it's possible MM hadn't walked anywhere... given the tight time frame, she might not have even had time after she disentangled herself from the airbags. Bloodhounds can scent some distance even if the missing person is already in a vehicle.
So the Saturn might have been a crime scene, although it wasn't obvious when LE arrived at 7:46pm?
Certain posters have circuitously speculated on who the perp. might be. Has is ever been determined or reported as to whether Michael Nicholaou was definitively home in GA on February 9, 2004? Could he have been back in New England again for any reason? An anniversary? Visiting relatives? Could he have borrowed a buddy's truck with MA plates sporting an airborne decal?
Frosty...OLD NEWS... it's all a rewind. are you sure you're not a bona fide DUCK??!! i'm not so sure.
turns out i've given you more credit for intelligence than you're demonstrating by lifting off from the hearsay of a "contributor". give it a break.
assemble facts; fantasy has no role in the outcome or resolution of a mystery.
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Here are R. C. Stevens credentials
http://www.psiiinc.com/about/resume.htm
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FRMleeee said he worked for NHSP and RC was a Mass NHSP officer. How long was JS with the NHSP?
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Frostman wrote:
A contributor to this thread recently posted that a dog on Old Peters Road (adjacent to the accident scene) was spooked that night.(A dog was freaked out up on BHR as well, or so it's been said). No neighboring humans report hearing any screams but perhaps a dog heard something... a stifled cry for help?
If "Red Truck" was stalking MM and the perp was a deft and bold abductor he could have lifted MM right from the Saturn. If she already had her backpack slung over her shoulder, perhaps that's why it's also missing? She may not have been on guard having just spoken with BA, the SBD ... maybe just thinking here's another friendly neighbor? Perhaps he even asked her if she'd seen a stray dog or used some other conversational ruse to get her out of the car?
If the SAR Bloodhound lost the scent down the road, it's possible MM hadn't walked anywhere... given the tight time frame, she might not have even had time after she disentangled herself from the airbags. Bloodhounds can scent some distance even if the missing person is already in a vehicle.
So the Saturn might have been a crime scene, although it wasn't obvious when LE arrived at 7:46pm?
Certain posters have circuitously speculated on who the perp. might be. Has is ever been determined or reported as to whether Michael Nicholaou was definitively home in GA on February 9, 2004? Could he have been back in New England again for any reason? An anniversary? Visiting relatives? Could he have borrowed a buddy's truck with MA plates sporting an airborne decal?
Interesting point regarding the airborn decal. It was said a possible eagle on the back window wasn't it?

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Interesting point regarding the airborn decal. It was said a possible eagle on the back window wasn't it?
I don't remember this emblem statement. Where did that come from?

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jwb wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted But I came across this page that has the full timeline
http://everything.explained.at/Maura_Murray/
Never understood this one:
•1:13 PM - Maura calls another student and leaves a voicemail. No significant information.

why would she leave a voicemail to a friend that had no significant information while she was obviously preparing to leave (according to timeline, other generally accepted facts)?

according to this it seems that there are two videos of her (one at ATM and the other at liquor store, both showing her alone). This particular question of the video has gone back and forth (was it one or two?).
Maybe someone familiar with LE proceedings could tell us why they would not allow anyone to see this (have information on it that has not been disclosed to the public because it contains information for strategic purposes - in which case would it be likely that there is a specific POI?- and the emphasis on both accounts that the videos show her alone.)

LE probably knows a lot more than they are letting on, but without more evidence they could never secure a conviction in court. The reason they don't tell us is because they wouldn't want to tip off the POI or suspect in the event that more evidence would surface later. Wonder if LE on this site could shed light on this.

If they really felt that she was a runaway or suicide, then why has no one ever seen these videos?

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Det Columbo wrote:
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I don't remember this emblem statement. Where did that come from?
John
frostmans last sentance regarding an airborne decal (red truck) wasn't the red truck said to possibly have an eagle on the back window from RO ?

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Snowy wrote:
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Frosty...OLD NEWS... it's all a rewind. are you sure you're not a bona fide DUCK??!! i'm not so sure.
turns out i've given you more credit for intelligence than you're demonstrating by lifting off from the hearsay of a "contributor". give it a break.
assemble facts; fantasy has no role in the outcome or resolution of a mystery.
It's always worth a rehash m'dear. If you can provide the posts where this was previously discussed it might help shed some more light.

Quack, quack.:)
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It is floating out there on posts about the logo but I am not seeing anything directly from RO stating that she saw a logo on the back window
Snowy

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Frostman wrote:
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It's always worth a rehash m'dear. If you can provide the posts where this was previously discussed it might help shed some more light.
Quack, quack.:)
naw. i have a sharp memory, especially for duplication of ideas in time and places...it has been well honed here.
linking to hearsay is an absurdity...doesn't fly.
rehash or regurg...either way, insanity is doing the same thing over and over with the expectation of a different result. this, at least, we know.

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Frostman wrote:
A contributor to this thread recently posted that a dog on Old Peters Road (adjacent to the accident scene) was spooked that night.(A dog was freaked out up on BHR as well, or so it's been said). No neighboring humans report hearing any screams but perhaps a dog heard something... a stifled cry for help?
If "Red Truck" was stalking MM and the perp was a deft and bold abductor he could have lifted MM right from the Saturn. If she already had her backpack slung over her shoulder, perhaps that's why it's also missing? She may not have been on guard having just spoken with BA, the SBD ... maybe just thinking here's another friendly neighbor? Perhaps he even asked her if she'd seen a stray dog or used some other conversational ruse to get her out of the car?
If the SAR Bloodhound lost the scent down the road, it's possible MM hadn't walked anywhere... given the tight time frame, she might not have even had time after she disentangled herself from the airbags. Bloodhounds can scent some distance even if the missing person is already in a vehicle.
So the Saturn might have been a crime scene, although it wasn't obvious when LE arrived at 7:46pm?
Certain posters have circuitously speculated on who the perp. might be. Has is ever been determined or reported as to whether Michael Nicholaou was definitively home in GA on February 9, 2004? Could he have been back in New England again for any reason? An anniversary? Visiting relatives? Could he have borrowed a buddy's truck with MA plates sporting an airborne decal?
I dont know anything about a dog on BHR. What I do know is that months after Mauras accident is that myself and others personally had a conversation with a neighbor whom lived with in eyesight of the accident seen. That neighbor had stated to us that there was a person that lived on OPR that walked there dog around 7 oclock every night. It was stated to us that on the night of Mauras accident this person was taking there dog out for a walk and the dog began to growl so the owner turned around. I dont know if the owner took another route or just went home with the dog.
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Snowy wrote:
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naw. i have a sharp memory, especially for duplication of ideas in time and places...it has been well honed here.
linking to hearsay is an absurdity...doesn't fly.
rehash or regurg...either way, insanity is doing the same thing over and over with the expectation of a different result. this, at least, we know.
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It is not hear say. It is an actual conversation with a witness with in eye sight of the accident scene.

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Snowy wrote:
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naw. i have a sharp memory, especially for duplication of ideas in time and places...it has been well honed here.
linking to hearsay is an absurdity...doesn't fly.
rehash or regurg...either way, insanity is doing the same thing over and over with the expectation of a different result. this, at least, we know.
;)
Feel free to provide a link to the old posts regarding anything you think is being rehashed today. We're waiting. I'm willing to bet whatever you might post has been read and digested by most of us already... but give us the links anyway, will you? Indulge us.

Were you there when Citigirl spoke to people on/near OPR regarding a growling/spooked dog? How would you know what was said? Perhaps you're just trying to make everyone think the conversation was made up. How would you know... unless you were there. And you probably weren't. Besides... why would anyone make up a story about a spooked dog? It just doesn't follow.

The Salem Witch Trials ended over 300 years ago dahlin'.

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>I dont know anything about a dog on BHR. What I do know is that months after Mauras accident is that myself and others personally had a conversation with a neighbor whom lived with in eyesight of the accident seen. That neighbor had stated to us that there was a person that lived on OPR that walked there dog around 7 oclock every night. It was stated to us that on the night of Mauras accident this person was taking there dog out for a walk and the dog began to growl so the owner turned around. I dont know if the owner took another route or just went home with the dog.
Why didn't you go to the neighbors house on OPR and ask them about it? From what I hear you're not shy.
I wouldn't get excited about a dog growling in that area with the amount of wildlife around there.

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Renner's blog: New City number belonged to BR just in case anyone doubted that. New post today.

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>It is not hear say. It is an actual conversation with a witness with in eye sight of the accident scene.
It is hearsay unless it came from the person walking the dog. And you didn't talk to them.
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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>It is not hear say. It is an actual conversation with a witness with in eye sight of the accident scene.
"Frostman wrote:
A contributor to this thread recently posted that a dog on Old Peters Road (adjacent to the accident scene) was spooked that night.(A dog was freaked out up on BHR as well, or so it's been said). No neighboring humans report hearing any screams but perhaps a dog heard something... a stifled cry for help?"

hearsay.
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Why didn't you go to the neighbors house on OPR and ask them about it? From what I hear you're not shy.
I wouldn't get excited about a dog growling in that area with the amount of wildlife around there.
reality check.
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Frostman wrote:
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Feel free to provide a link to the old posts regarding anything you think is being rehashed today. We're waiting. I'm willing to bet whatever you might post has been read and digested by most of us already... but give us the links anyway, will you? Indulge us.
Were you there when Citigirl spoke to people on/near OPR regarding a growling/spooked dog? How would you know what was said? Perhaps you're just trying to make everyone think the conversation was made up. How would you know... unless you were there. And you probably weren't. Besides... why would anyone make up a story about a spooked dog? It just doesn't follow.
The Salem Witch Trials ended over 300 years ago dahlin'.
you didn't say "citigirl" ~ you said "a contributor".
wouldn't have made much difference to me, anyway.
how do YOU know the conversation was authentic? you don't.:)
rich fantasies live here on Topix....believe it.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Why didn't you go to the neighbors house on OPR and ask them about it? From what I hear you're not shy.
I wouldn't get excited about a dog growling in that area with the amount of wildlife around there.
For one this person never revealed any names. Wowzer- " From what I hear youre not shy" Not sure where you are getting your info from. I will ask questions but the majority of the time Iam a listener and very soft spoken. Iam not getting excited about what a neighbor has said. Im only stating what the neighbor had said to me and others. If you have a problem with this you need to confront your neighbor and not me. But I will tell you that the neighbor made it sound like it was unusual. A woman from OPR had come and sought us out at the motel we were staying at and talked with us with some things that were bothersome to her. I have always believed that these people have always given an honest account as to what they have said. Do you believe they are all lying?

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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It is hearsay unless it came from the person walking the dog. And you didn't talk to them.
Shhhhhhhhh....The Dog Whisperer is in the house.!
I talked to C.N who lives on OP rd. sometime after Citigirl was given that info. She confirmed that She went out to walk the dog and decided to turn around and go back in.
I had also talked to her about the cabin across the st. from her on OP rd. and who owned this cabin and how often they came up.
She said She didn't know the people very well but thought the name was something like "McKerly" or "Merkeri" and they were not here very often. I have since confirmed the owners name but have yet to gain an interview after all these years.
John

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