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Tom wrote:
- When her father was told about the rag in the muffler/exhaust he told the authorities that it was to prevent smoking and he gave it to her - making sure he told LE that so it wouldn't be surprised if his DNA was on it.
Excellent point, Tom.
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jwb wrote:
and then there is (Just Me) college buddy maybe?
What's this all about? I'm in the total dark here. No idea what you're talking about. College and a family do not fit well, especially when you struggle from paycheck to paycheck to feed all those mouths. Luckily, I've landed 2 great managerial jobs without any degree.
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Shack wrote:
What I have been thinking recently is how soon February 9th is nearing. I do keep in touch with some of Maura's family...although not as much as I used to. How many times can one ask how they are doing. I guess an empty question because we know that they are hurting.
shack, do you think Fred would ever speak to Mr Renner?
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hannah_b wrote:
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Excellent point, Tom.
Why is it a good point? It had been his car and he either handed her the rag or put it in the trunk...meaningless
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Respect wrote:
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Scott and Les. Both were great men and Troopers.
Bow your head in respect when you mention their names.
FRMLE:

Regardless of how psychotic, delusional, obsessed, or just plain crazy Carl Drega was, Troopers Scott Phillips and Leslie Lord, were unfortunately nothing more than proxy targets. Drega did not have the mental resources to hunt down a nasty, unethical cop like yourself so he chose two other cops who, in effect, stood in for you, whose resemblance in his twisted mind was close enough. They died in your place so that you can collect your retirement checks and spew vile, pointless venom on Topix. A fine way you have of honoring their memory.

Cops like you too frequently push some people, vulnerable or strong, over the edge. These victims of your bullying don’t always just slink away. Sometimes they fight back in whatever way they can devise, even if it’s crude, violent, and bizarre. If they cannot assassinate a specific cop against whom they harbor a grudge, then they simply choose, often spontaneously, another member of the same group, same unit, same troop, same uniform, same badge, same whatever, to stand in the place of the offending police officer, which in this case would have been a cop like you.

Troopers Phillips and Lord died because you were unavailable to Drega at the height of his insane rage. How does it feel to wander through your retirement, pissing away their hallowed memory by alighting on Topix to further vent your unending anger - like you vented it for two decades against the people you swore to protect and serve.

You are a disgrace to honorable law enforcement and specifically to those fallen police officers whose tragic and untimely deaths have allowed a scum bucket like you to waste away his remaining years by being nasty to anyone you can find. You urge people to bow their heads in respect, but all you do is piss on the graves of Scott Phillips and Leslie Lord.
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Not So wrote:
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Why is it a good point? It had been his car and he either handed her the rag or put it in the trunk...meaningless
That´s exactly why it´s excellent. It (FM´s comment) makes all further investigation of the rag in the tailpipe... meaningless.

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Beagle wrote:
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FRMLE:
Regardless of how psychotic, delusional, obsessed, or just plain crazy Carl Drega was, Troopers Scott Phillips and Leslie Lord, were unfortunately nothing more than proxy targets. Drega did not have the mental resources to hunt down a nasty, unethical cop like yourself so he chose two other cops who, in effect, stood in for you, whose resemblance in his twisted mind was close enough. They died in your place so that you can collect your retirement checks and spew vile, pointless venom on Topix. A fine way you have of honoring their memory.
Cops like you too frequently push some people, vulnerable or strong, over the edge. These victims of your bullying don’t always just slink away. Sometimes they fight back in whatever way they can devise, even if it’s crude, violent, and bizarre. If they cannot assassinate a specific cop against whom they harbor a grudge, then they simply choose, often spontaneously, another member of the same group, same unit, same troop, same uniform, same badge, same whatever, to stand in the place of the offending police officer, which in this case would have been a cop like you.
Troopers Phillips and Lord died because you were unavailable to Drega at the height of his insane rage. How does it feel to wander through your retirement, pissing away their hallowed memory by alighting on Topix to further vent your unending anger - like you vented it for two decades against the people you swore to protect and serve.
You are a disgrace to honorable law enforcement and specifically to those fallen police officers whose tragic and untimely deaths have allowed a scum bucket like you to waste away his remaining years by being nasty to anyone you can find. You urge people to bow their heads in respect, but all you do is piss on the graves of Scott Phillips and Leslie Lord.
Agreed. And bullying from out-of-state. By you. Shameful. Disgusting.
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shack, do you think Fred would ever speak to Mr Renner?
Good question..wish I had a good answer...sorry...
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I call out all the Maura supporters to fight back because this conversation is for her.
Hate to tell you, but this is Topix. It's unmoderated. It's the wild west. It does not belong to you, FRMLE, WTH, Wowzer, Snowy, me, or anyone else. While I have some slight empathy with your frustration, I applaud the efforts of Snowy, Wowzer, and WTH to pound down baseless assertions presented as fact, even if the assertions are mine. We all disagree with each other and for whatever reasons, our emotions carry us away (becarriedaway?), especially when we are online, not face-to-face. There are trolls, multiple monikers, agendas galore, vendettas, cat fights, and even some flirting. It's a crazy, nutty place, but whether you like it or not, this isn't sacred ground for the always rational discussion of what happened to Maura Murray. If you want a kinder, gentler venue to talk about this topic, then host a forum of your own. Whoever you are.
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Agreed. And bullying from out-of-state. By you. Shameful. Disgusting.
Could you please explain what you mean by this? Especially the "By you" fragment. Who is "you?" Thanks.
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Here again are the towns that Mr Renner requested info from. Besides the obvious towns, what connection do the other towns have? topic for conversation
anyone?

Just sent out several requests for public records to the following offices:

- Grafton County Superior Court
- New Hampshire Supreme Court
- New Hampshire Attorney General's Office
- Weymouth Police Department
- Quincy District Court
- Norfolk Superior Court
- Eastern Hampshire District Court
- Amherst Police Department

Quincy & Weymouth ?

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As a mp researcher and former domestic intelligence operative. Some people troll around in topix just to try to make fools of others.
Some folks in LE or ex LE do the same as they troll for relevant info.
I try never to feed trolls.
I'll stick to the facts as I can cooberate them and offer insight as to conclusions only based on the facts.
I've seen it all...walk-aways for many different reasons including suicide...witness protection (was a nightmare for me)... Foul play in lots of diff ways...and accidents.
As long as the story is still in the public eye folks will "keepthesearchalive" and that is a good thing.
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Beagle wrote:
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Hate to tell you, but this is Topix. It's unmoderated. It's the wild west. It does not belong to you, FRMLE, WTH, Wowzer, Snowy, me, or anyone else. While I have some slight empathy with your frustration, I applaud the efforts of Snowy, Wowzer, and WTH to pound down baseless assertions presented as fact, even if the assertions are mine. We all disagree with each other and for whatever reasons, our emotions carry us away (becarriedaway?), especially when we are online, not face-to-face. There are trolls, multiple monikers, agendas galore, vendettas, cat fights, and even some flirting. It's a crazy, nutty place, but whether you like it or not, this isn't sacred ground for the always rational discussion of what happened to Maura Murray. If you want a kinder, gentler venue to talk about this topic, then host a forum of your own. Whoever you are.
They have your back and you are in the pack. It is ok that you feel that way. You are not rude to people and have a wealth of knowledge.
As I have said before Beagle. The problem is not disagreeing with someone, but it is the attacks on posters when they are trying to make their point. The four that you mention are unwilling to add anything helpful to the discussion.Bill has at times,Snowy Never, Wowzer Never .They call people retards, stupid etc... there is no justifying that. Enough about them.

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Shack wrote:
<quoted text>Good question..wish I had a good answer...sorry...
It might be a good idea on Freds part especially with the book coming out and he hasn't been put in a great light. A great opportunity to maybe set some stuff straight before it goes to print I would think.
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Keepthesearchalive wrote:
As a mp researcher and former domestic intelligence operative. Some people troll around in topix just to try to make fools of others.
Some folks in LE or ex LE do the same as they troll for relevant info.
I try never to feed trolls.
I'll stick to the facts as I can cooberate them and offer insight as to conclusions only based on the facts.
I've seen it all...walk-aways for many different reasons including suicide...witness protection (was a nightmare for me)... Foul play in lots of diff ways...and accidents.
As long as the story is still in the public eye folks will "keepthesearchalive" and that is a good thing.
funny that you say that and thank you for your contribution. It has crossed my mind before that this might be what is going on here. Can't prove it , but it is just such bizzare behavior that what you said makes sense.

however,they stifle good brainstorming here and if they were fishing I would think that they would encourage talk.
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jwb wrote:
Here again are the towns that Mr Renner requested info from. Besides the obvious towns, what connection do the other towns have? topic for conversation
anyone?
Just sent out several requests for public records to the following offices:
- Grafton County Superior Court
- New Hampshire Supreme Court
- New Hampshire Attorney General's Office
- Weymouth Police Department
- Quincy District Court
- Norfolk Superior Court
- Eastern Hampshire District Court
- Amherst Police Department
Quincy & Weymouth ?
Eastern Hampshire Dist. Court: Maybe search warrant for dorm room. Amherst is in the eastern part of Hampshire County. The court itself is in Belchertown.

Not sure about Amherst PD, but possibly something related to Vasi crash? Could be other reasons. The current Burlington MA police chief, Michael Kent, when he was at Amherst PD, said that UMass PD was handling Maura's disappearance. Not sure why this was the case.

It's nice that Renner is asking for records, but I am not encouraged by what I've seen of his work so far. Maybe it will congeal, but it just seems like a sensationalized print version of some of the TV shows. More "In the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night."
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that was in reference to the LE angle
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Frostman wrote:
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People are listening. Nothing has been hijacked by the cynics and naysayers, no matter what anyone says.
be always wise to consider the source, and Advocate is a credible one.
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Beagle wrote:
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FRMLE:
Regardless of how psychotic, delusional, obsessed, or just plain crazy Carl Drega was, Troopers Scott Phillips and Leslie Lord, were unfortunately nothing more than proxy targets. Drega did not have the mental resources to hunt down a nasty, unethical cop like yourself so he chose two other cops who, in effect, stood in for you, whose resemblance in his twisted mind was close enough. They died in your place so that you can collect your retirement checks and spew vile, pointless venom on Topix. A fine way you have of honoring their memory.
Cops like you too frequently push some people, vulnerable or strong, over the edge. These victims of your bullying don’t always just slink away. Sometimes they fight back in whatever way they can devise, even if it’s crude, violent, and bizarre. If they cannot assassinate a specific cop against whom they harbor a grudge, then they simply choose, often spontaneously, another member of the same group, same unit, same troop, same uniform, same badge, same whatever, to stand in the place of the offending police officer, which in this case would have been a cop like you.
Troopers Phillips and Lord died because you were unavailable to Drega at the height of his insane rage. How does it feel to wander through your retirement, pissing away their hallowed memory by alighting on Topix to further vent your unending anger - like you vented it for two decades against the people you swore to protect and serve.
You are a disgrace to honorable law enforcement and specifically to those fallen police officers whose tragic and untimely deaths have allowed a scum bucket like you to waste away his remaining years by being nasty to anyone you can find. You urge people to bow their heads in respect, but all you do is piss on the graves of Scott Phillips and Leslie Lord.
so Beagle you just gave away FRMLE he is posting as Respect. Thanks!
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Beagle wrote:
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Hate to tell you, but this is Topix. It's unmoderated. It's the wild west. It does not belong to you, FRMLE, WTH, Wowzer, Snowy, me, or anyone else. While I have some slight empathy with your frustration, I applaud the efforts of Snowy, Wowzer, and WTH to pound down baseless assertions presented as fact, even if the assertions are mine. We all disagree with each other and for whatever reasons, our emotions carry us away (becarriedaway?), especially when we are online, not face-to-face. There are trolls, multiple monikers, agendas galore, vendettas, cat fights, and even some flirting. It's a crazy, nutty place, but whether you like it or not, this isn't sacred ground for the always rational discussion of what happened to Maura Murray. If you want a kinder, gentler venue to talk about this topic, then host a forum of your own. Whoever you are.
AMEN, brotha, AMEN

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