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He stated citigirl (using her supposed real-life name) has not returned his calls.
It appears, from Renner's last two posts, that he has been scouring the forums for information. Guess he's not as linked-in as I had thought -- and I guess the FOIA papers weren't quite the treasure trove of information some expected. Sorry, I don't mean Renner asked citigirl first and she said okay. I should have asked whether they - whatever "they" means - were complicit. Perhaps they concocted this story, so naturally Renner could claim that citigirl didn't return his calls? This whole thing is a witch's brew of ISP addresses, monikers, and real or imaginary family members. It's like the rest of Renner's stories - garbage, very mixed up garbage. Smoke and mirrors. Junk. Not to mention the recent, kind posts of my friend "beaglefukker" from Toronto.
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Nothing new on the Maura Murray segment tonight on WMUR channel 9 news. Just an e-mail from a girl at UMASS who will put up missing posters. 8 Years John
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The understanding I had of the segment tonight was that Fred still would like the FBI involved and he's still blaming the SP Trooper for not finding her saying he was her only chance or something similar to that. Beside that there wasn't much new.
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From Mr. Renner's latest blog: "... a reader sent me an email which included, as an attachment, a report given to Lt. Scarinza of the NH State Police in 2009. The report was written by a CPA named James Leone. Leone knows computers. He understands how to track an IP address. He was contacted by the moderator of a forum devoted to finding what happened to Maura Murray. Someone had posted the supposed "true" story... AND "From Leone's report: I have been told that second hand the following: "Citigirl" is ..." Oh please. What CPA would write a letter to the police saying: "I've been told that second hand..."? Someone is yanking Mr. Renner's chain or he's yanking it himself.
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What would you think if you saw a Hadley police officer walking to work every day, no gun, no cuffs (which even off-duty officers are required to carry). Administrative work? Administrative leave?
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Det Columbo wrote: Nothing new on the Maura Murray segment tonight on WMUR channel 9 news.
Just an e-mail from a girl at UMASS who will put up missing posters.
8 Years
John That should help. Well meaning idiots. I mean, unless you figure Maura is hiding out in one of the UMASS dorms??? Bill
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"She crashed her car on Route 112 in North Haverhill at about 7:30 p.m. It was pitch black and 10 degrees outside." More crap. They just continue to pile it on, the truth means nothing in their pursuit. It was above freezing and not pitch black. We have been over this twenty times if we have once. Bill
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Anne
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Anne wrote: <quoted text>For the record, I never once said that this scenario could be possible. I intended to say, of course its possible she intended to run away. I just dont think thats what happened.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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WTH-the-original wrote: "She crashed her car on Route 112 in North Haverhill at about 7:30 p.m. It was pitch black and 10 degrees outside."
More crap. They just continue to pile it on, the truth means nothing in their pursuit.
It was above freezing and not pitch black. We have been over this twenty times if we have once.
Bill it's becomes nearly a full-time job when there's 3 of them to correct.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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Simply Caustic wrote: <quoted text>
He stated citigirl (using her supposed real-life name) has not returned his calls.
It appears, from Renner's last two posts, that he has been scouring the forums for information. Guess he's not as linked-in as I had thought -- and I guess the FOIA papers weren't quite the treasure trove of information some expected. bet he's following his nose for anything smelly.
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Kitten
Amherst, MA
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Simply Caustic wrote: I think it was bogus of Renner to post citigirl's (alleged) full legal name, based upon a 'report' he obtained from a CPA?
Sigh. I wish I listened earlier when some here had voiced concerns over his credibility - it's a bit ridiculous to start 'outting' people via there Topix screenname. If Citi really did post "This is very interesting, it somehow has the ring of truth to it. This is common knowledge in certain circles of people who are close to the family." (And there's no real proof she did other than that she hasn't come around here since she became the belle of the ball) then she completely deserved to have her name published. It's the opposite of everything she's said on here. Both stories can't be true. It might have been kind of pushy on Renner's part. But Citi's fishy. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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Snowy wrote: <quoted text>
bet he's following his nose for anything smelly. I'm curious about that story you linked yesterday. IMO, LE handled that perfectly....the way she left, the lie re: a family emergency, etc., led them to handle it as a voluntarily missing. The pivotal point? When family came Putin the last few days, said "she mailed us her journals, there is some disturbing content that worrie us in there, here are the states where she used her credit card, here's the last known image of her (taken at ATM). They were brutally honest.AND it's having an effect, IMO, people are really taking notice now. People still care, even when it's likely the missing person wasn't a vic. Kudos to her family. This may seem off topic, but I think it clearly illustrates the right way to handle this. Or at least, one of the right ways.
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Simply Caustic wrote: <quoted text>
It appears, from Renner's last two posts, that he has been scouring the forums for information. Guess he's not as linked-in as I had thought -- and I guess the FOIA papers weren't quite the treasure trove of information some expected. I don't think Mr. Renner has to scour for scuttlebutt on any forums, it's being sent directly to him and in the absence of any real facts he's just throwing all the nonsense out there to see what sticks. I'd love to see the letterhead of the CPA (James Leone) who wrote and "sent" the "report" to Scarinza. CPAs don't write reports of any kind based on innuendo -- that can get them into a heap of trouble.("Someone told me secondhand that the revenue was $720,000,000 so, jolly good, that's what it is!" Remember Enron?) Why did I have dream last night about strangers in a Chinese restaurant having an egg-roll fight?
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Frostman wrote: <quoted text>
I don't think Mr. Renner has to scour for scuttlebutt on any forums, it's being sent directly to him and in the absence of any real facts he's just throwing all the nonsense out there to see what sticks. I'd love to see the letterhead of the CPA (James Leone) who wrote and "sent" the "report" to Scarinza. CPAs don't write reports of any kind based on innuendo -- that can get them into a heap of trouble.("Someone told me secondhand that the revenue was $720,000,000 so, jolly good, that's what it is!" Remember Enron?)
Why did I have dream last night about strangers in a Chinese restaurant having an egg-roll fight? Just have to remember to "Hold the Duck Sauce"....some people are allergic. John
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Simply caustic wrote: <quoted text>
I'm curious about that story you linked yesterday. IMO, LE handled that perfectly....the way she left, the lie re: a family emergency, etc., led them to handle it as a voluntarily missing. The pivotal point? When family came Putin the last few days, said "she mailed us her journals, there is some disturbing content that worrie us in there, here are the states where she used her credit card, here's the last known image of her (taken at ATM).
They were brutally honest.AND it's having an effect, IMO, people are really taking notice now. People still care, even when it's likely the missing person wasn't a vic. Kudos to her family.
This may seem off topic, but I think it clearly illustrates the right way to handle this. Or at least, one of the right ways. so many tragic stories of missing young adults; parents' worst fears are realized. i've just googled an updated story....at least the family is working with some clues. it is absolutely true that there is nothing to lose by frank honesty when searching for loved ones. Maura's story is as compelling as all the others. unfortunately, forums attract interested people, but group social dynamics end up in the type of disagreements we've seen over so many years. it's unfortunate that Maura became objectified by attempts to control information about her to the public. over time, that serves only to diminish the level of compassion that brought us all here in the first place. still, we can't walk in another's shoes.
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Simply caustic wrote: <quoted text>
I'm curious about that story you linked yesterday. IMO, LE handled that perfectly....the way she left, the lie re: a family emergency, etc., led them to handle it as a voluntarily missing. The pivotal point? When family came Putin the last few days, said "she mailed us her journals, there is some disturbing content that worrie us in there, here are the states where she used her credit card, here's the last known image of her (taken at ATM).
They were brutally honest.AND it's having an effect, IMO, people are really taking notice now. People still care, even when it's likely the missing person wasn't a vic. Kudos to her family.
This may seem off topic, but I think it clearly illustrates the right way to handle this. Or at least, one of the right ways. to your main point....pretty sure the Elmira PD is not gifted with endless resources of the magnitude required to do a massive"search", but as you say, with information provided, they have mobilized what is reasonably necessary to begin and move forward. ditto for NH authorities. i've recently had/have a few family members on the road in recent weeks....crisscrossing the US....technology keeps us connected, but there is always concern. http://centralny.ynn.com/content/top_stories/...
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I am wondering where Mr. James Leone is from. Who is He really.? John
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I vaguely recall something about Maura's having misplaced her cell phone or left it behind at some point, some place? Is that when she crashed the Corolla in Hadley? Did she have her cell phone with her then? Thanks.
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jwb
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Beagle wrote: I vaguely recall something about Maura's having misplaced her cell phone or left it behind at some point, some place? Is that when she crashed the Corolla in Hadley? Did she have her cell phone with her then? Thanks. I believe that is when she forgot her cell phone beagle (Corrola crash) because she had to use Freds Phone to call Billy when she got to Freds room.
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Beagle
Easthampton, MA
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I believe that is when she forgot her cell phone beagle (Corrola crash) because she had to use Freds Phone to call Billy when she got to Freds room. Thank you.
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