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so u r paris! u r also linda and just me. Thank u for recommending to me "bottle rocket". About 100 yrs ago. The film maura watched over and over again, her favourite film in the whole world, according to her friends. Yes, it does reveal an interest in running away and starting over. We actually enjoyed this film, not great, but sort of cute.
You're welcome. Maura also liked the periodical, "The ONion" which was abit on the sacrcastic side. Maura had a temper and di tell at least one person she wished she could just run away. But there was something else said about it too, at the time. Can't recall now, but Maura thought that movie was clearly the best.
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Just me__Paris--- wrote:
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Maybe this guy just knows who and wanted to scare that certain someone with having the ski lift ticket.
Shouldn't be too hard to go back to the place and see who took lift 13. As for this man laughing, he starts out trying to, then makes it seem pretty realistic as the music progresses. Then he stops. Looks. Winks. Smiles and puts his face into a normal grin. I think it most definately was a taunt, but to someone else. Maybe this guy thoght he'd "scare" somebody out there with it. Or spook them, to say the least.
If not some form of LE, I'll bet the laughing man wishes he could have taken the video down sooner.
I also think it could be a stunt....for publicity. And funny that it was posted the DAY before as though the joke is on us. That Maura went captive or missing or just plain AWOL, on SUNDAY with someone elses help. Just thinking out loud, and still don't think it's beagle at all.
I too think that it's not right to post where an innocent man works with no just cause. I mean after all, no where did it say 'hi, I'm Beagle and crazy and looky here, I think it's all funny, bet you wonder if I did it too.....
I'll say it again< I didn't post where he worked. It was his post and he told everyone where he worked in his words (re-post). I took his name off the post with ***** at the top. I totally missed the Job part or I would have taken that out and therefore I regreted that part afterwards. The post itself I though humanized beagle in a good way. Last Time i will comment on it.
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Snowy, I did miss it. Can you please explain the whole Mason thing. I've asked like three people to clarify, and nobody has gotten back to me. If anyone is reluctant to re-hash whatever it is, would I be able to figure out what's being referred to by reading back-archived posts? If you could save me the trouble, at least this time, I'd appreciate it.
Mason wanted to see Fred's cellphone records and be sure where Fred was between Sunday and Tuesday. He had a theory that Maura was killed by a furious father and called much of what family reps claimed to be red herrings. He explained why. Advocates forum, no time now to get it.
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Thank you so much for posting the re-cap. I am still in the midst of reading through the older posts in the thread, and there's a lot of material there so I apologize in advance if I miss something or if I ask for a reference to something. And, feel free to tell me if my asking for a re-cap or whatever new member behaviours I may have become a nuisance. Obviously I'm pretty vocal myself, and generally thick-skinned, and I'd hate to put anyone out. So I'll try to rely on my own abilities to read the back-logs as a rule, but might have to ask for info in the meantime.
Yeah, I think that whatever their reasoning MM's family has done a real disservice to their cause by leaving out as much as they did. I can understand the reasoning behind doing so, but I think in leaving things out and as you've said, by trying to portray her as the all-american girl has only strengthened people's convictions that she merely ran away, or was somehow responsible for her own disappearance. I agree with Acid House though, in thinking that the difficulties she had do not exclude her and could have made her more vulnerable. Not that they did, merely that they could have. I wonder if her family had just come out and been straight-forward about her history how much of a difference that would have made in terms of having accurate information with which to use to locate her, and in keeping members of the public from becoming frustrated or disillusioned and disinterest with the case. Would you say that many people are no longer as intent on finding her, or have less compassion, or would be less likely to come forward if they knew anything because of the family's missteps?
I ask because you've been here for a while, and I'm certain you have more insight into how the general public feels about this case than I do at this time.
Again, a big thank you for going over that old information for me! I really appreciate it.
you're welcome.

our personal opinions don't really matter....they are just points of discussion...but i'd think a family's first consideration would be to supply every known detail to law enforcement.

while i understand the fear that the public may judge one's loved one for a troubled past or present, the most useful course of action would seem to be to make an honest and sincere appeal to the public, NOT to feed misinformation or color the truth by omission.
if LE or a lawyer advises a family to withhold certain information, that is another matter.
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Last though here, and others have said as much too. WHY would the family tell the tv viewers to just ignore this? Would it give something away? Was it a message of sorts to someone in the know, namely family?
If it were my family, I'd think...let 'er rip, this will make people think about Maura and we have been praying for this. More interest and so on.
Perhaps they have information that conclusively proves this is not the person responsible and they do not want all of the attention to be aimed towards a misdirection. In all likelihood, it will be a while before we find out what happened there, if we ever do. That said, it is possible, although unlikely if this only got local coverage, that it may serve to highlight the case. If the person who posted the videos is charged, that would get more media coverage than the videos themselves I imagine.

I hope all of this renewed attention, or whatever attention future developments may add, at least serves to bring some new information to light.

Anyway, I'm off. Goodnight everyone!

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so u r paris! u r also linda and just me. Thank u for recommending to me "bottle rocket". About 100 yrs ago. The film maura watched over and over again, her favourite film in the whole world, according to her friends. Yes, it does reveal an interest in running away and starting over. We actually enjoyed this film, not great, but sort of cute.
Will the real PARIS Please stand up. Hows the weather in Pa. Paris.

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Will the real PARIS Please stand up. Hows the weather in Pa. Paris.
John
columbo looks like the last video ties in with beagle based on the Link below the video and previous beagle posts. Do you agree?
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vanderhoven wrote:
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Gah, I just lost the post I'd typed up in response to this so I apologize if this one makes less sense, but alas I'm rushing now.
I'm sorry, I hope that my post did not come across as rude. I know you've spent a lot of time here today, especially to talk to me and clarify a number of things for me and I really appreciate that.
I wasn't trying to particularly single you out. It's just something that I have noticed generally speaking, and not about you, that many people that discuss or follow the MM case are protective of Mr. Renner to a degree that I do not understand.
I'm obviously not trying to just bash him, I simply take issue with some of his methods and I find it weird that a number of people do not. I did, however, interpret, or perhaps misinterpret, your post as being in defense of his methods, and I felt as though you were essentially saying: It would be hard for him to exclusively provide verifiable information and you're not in a position to ask him to do so. Which, I took issue with. Anyways, just want to clarify I meant absolutely nothing personal by it, and that a number of my statements in that post were just commenting on how many people in general seem to respond to Renner's info. Not you, specifically. I can understand how the two were conflated in my post. My apologies.
I'd like to add, I have the vantage point of a new member, and I am new both to this site, the discussion, and Mr.Renner's site. So, yes, if Renner's posts have been especially dubious of late, and they weren't before it's a given we'll have conflicting opinions here.
(Re: Party Lines... I find it really weird that they are so tightly drawn especially when there is so little information publicly available, I personally think as you stated, all that is guaranteed is that she disappeared, should, at least in theory, make it pretty hard for party lines to be drawn. But then loyalties are a funny thing.)
Well Snowy, I'm not sure if you're headed off or not. I probably am, but who knows. If you are, my absolute best wishes and I really appreciate the discussion, and your efforts to help better inform me! A sincere thanks, and I hope you successfully manage to complete the tasks which need your attention- furthermore that you're able to do so quickly enough so that you have a little bit of time to do something especially leisurely tonight, if for nothing else you deserve it for reading through paragraphs and paragraphs of foruming. I look forward to speaking with you soon.
my sense is that well-intended/rational/fair-mi nded people are waiting and hoping for JR to prove himself to be a professional investigative journalist. it is, imo, impressive that he is gathering information from many sources; i give anyone credit for jumping in 8 years later.

i understand there is an appearance of different views and standards for Renner's blog vs Topix, but i hope you can grasp some understanding of the complexity of the history and dynamics on Topix which don't necessarily translate from one to the other.
it makes sense to bring those complaints directly to him.

anyway, kind regards...and good wishes for a nice evening to you, as well.
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Just me__Paris--- wrote:
<quoted text>Mason wanted to see Fred's cellphone records and be sure where Fred was between Sunday and Tuesday. He had a theory that Maura was killed by a furious father and called much of what family reps claimed to be red herrings. He explained why. Advocates forum, no time now to get it.
great synopsis!! thank you.:)
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Just me__Paris--- wrote:
<quoted text>Mason wanted to see Fred's cellphone records and be sure where Fred was between Sunday and Tuesday. He had a theory that Maura was killed by a furious father and called much of what family reps claimed to be red herrings. He explained why. Advocates forum, no time now to get it.
Is advocates forum still available for reading?Is that the actual name of the forum?
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Is advocates forum still available for reading?Is that the actual name of the forum?
The forum Link I posted was not advocates forum? I thought it was but maybe not the one you are looking for.

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Good night. I'll leave the light on for Ya.

John
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The forum Link I posted was not advocates forum? I thought it was but maybe not the one you are looking for.
Im sorry,I wasnt aware you had posted that link.what post #?

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Why is it so quiet here.???
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Looking4AMoose wrote:
<quoted text>Citi, earlier this week you did state that you saw the bloody/rusty knife. I'd consider that inside knowledge.
yes I said I saw the knife.And I also said it was a small knife in plastic. I never said I saw a bloody/rusty knife.
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Det Columbo wrote:
Why is it so quiet here.???
i told her to shut up.

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Morning Citigirl.
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Just me__Paris--- wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and by that time, the time of the man giving the knife over to Fred, NOBODY should have touched it or even looked at it. If it were me, I'd have mailed it in,(if that's what police said to do) without a minute to spare. Maybe snap a picture of it, but that's about it.
FM was appraoched and given a small knife in plastic.After it was in the hands of Fred NOBODY else touched it. FM went to the Concord STP barracks,they would not accept it. FM explained he wanted to drop off potential evidence from a crime and asked whether there were any officers or any place else to take it. He was told there were no officers,come back Monday through Friday. FM had to back to MA. to work. So he wrote a cover letter to send with it to Concord state police. He did recieve notification of delivery and receipt from the post office.Its easy for you to say what you would do because you are not living the nightmare that Fred and family are living.

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>yes I said I saw the knife.And I also said it was a small knife in plastic. I never said I saw a bloody/rusty knife.
How small is small citigirl? 2in blade,3 in blade? Was is similar to a hunting knife, a dinner knife or one of those little cheap knives you can buy in most any store?
And are you saying that it wasn't rusty or bloody?

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Det Columbo wrote:
Why is it so quiet here.???
Maybe some are sitting back and watching the circus.

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