Maura Murray

Det Columbo wrote:

Morning Citigirl.

good morning

citigrl, was it ever determined who the poster was that Observer had replied to?

citigirl, You say that MR renner has not reached out to you. Have you tried reaching out to him at all to set the record straight before it goes into the book? If my name were attached to a non truth I would definitely try and correct it-just saying.

jwb wrote:

citigirl, You say that MR renner has not reached out to you. Have you tried reaching out to him at all to set the record straight before it goes into the book? If my name were attached to a non truth I would definitely try and correct it-just saying.

he has reached out to her, right on this thread.

JamesRenner wrote:

citigirl,
If you would like to set the records straight, my door is always open as it has been. Contact me at becarriedaway@hotmail.com and we'll set up a time to talk.

bump

jwb wrote:

citigirl, You say that MR renner has not reached out to you. Have you tried reaching out to him at all to set the record straight before it goes into the book? If my name were attached to a non truth I would definitely try and correct it-just saying.

Mr. Renner has shown his misjudgement many times on his blog by posting things before they were looked into further.

Sensationalism is a very powerful tool and it worked for Renner this time for sure. Look at all the attention He is getting.

I don't blame Citigirl for not responding.

John

jwb wrote:

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I'll say it again< I didn't post where he worked. It was his post and he told everyone where he worked in his words (re-post). I took his name off the post with ***** at the top. I totally missed the Job part or I would have taken that out and therefore I regreted that part afterwards. The post itself I though humanized beagle in a good way. Last Time i will comment on it.

I didn't mean you, jwb. I cannot fault you for that at all. It'ds easy enough to do when you find an article, and if you found it and read it, think how many more did too. No, I wasn't even thinking of you. Renner can fix these things on his blog, and hopefully he will edit that part out. More people will weed through and read his forum than topix, I'm sure.

vanderhoven wrote:

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Perhaps they have information that conclusively proves this is not the person responsible and they do not want all of the attention to be aimed towards a misdirection. In all likelihood, it will be a while before we find out what happened there, if we ever do. That said, it is possible, although unlikely if this only got local coverage, that it may serve to highlight the case. If the person who posted the videos is charged, that would get more media coverage than the videos themselves I imagine.
I hope all of this renewed attention, or whatever attention future developments may add, at least serves to bring some new information to light.
Anyway, I'm off. Goodnight everyone!

I agree with this. I just don't know how they know what is real or not, and why they would explain it away so quick

Det Columbo wrote:

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Will the real PARIS Please stand up. Hows the weather in Pa. Paris.
John

I don't get it, call me silly......

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>FM was appraoched and given a small knife in plastic.After it was in the hands of Fred NOBODY else touched it. FM went to the Concord STP barracks,they would not accept it. FM explained he wanted to drop off potential evidence from a crime and asked whether there were any officers or any place else to take it. He was told there were no officers,come back Monday through Friday. FM had to back to MA. to work. So he wrote a cover letter to send with it to Concord state police. He did recieve notification of delivery and receipt from the post office.Its easy for you to say what you would do because you are not living the nightmare that Fred and family are living.

Again, I didn't mean anything bad. I know the trouble Fred had with that piece of evidence. I just didn't know it was in plastic, and that's good. You know how they can claim the evidence has been tainted or compromised, that's all I meant.

Just me_Paris-- wrote:

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I didn't mean you, jwb. I cannot fault you for that at all. It'ds easy enough to do when you find an article, and if you found it and read it, think how many more did too. No, I wasn't even thinking of you. Renner can fix these things on his blog, and hopefully he will edit that part out. More people will weed through and read his forum than topix, I'm sure.

Good enough Paris sorry I guess after dealing with Tom yesterday I was exhausted trying to explain myself. The same info that is directly on beagles Blog "Passing through town" anyway thank you for clearing that up. I look forward to moving forward as new information comes out.

Snowy wrote:

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he has reached out to her, right on this thread.

Honestly if citigirl doesn't respond to him one has to assume there is truth in what he is saying. He has given every opportunity to get it straight. The professor at West point contacted MR renner and straighten things out and Mr renner updated his Blog with corrections and now everyone knows the real story.

Family doesn't want to respond. It allows them the ability to disparage the book when it comes out, by saying, "well, it can't be the truth because he never even spoke to the family or her friends." The thing is, I have spoken to family members. I have spoken to friends. All that will end up happening is they will be left out of the book and not have the chance to share the good stories they know about their loved one.

It's sad. If they truly cared for Maura, they'd want to share the good time in a book that will be out there forever.

jwb wrote:

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Good enough Paris sorry I guess after dealing with Tom yesterday I was exhausted trying to explain myself. The same info that is directly on beagles Blog "Passing through town" anyway thank you for clearing that up. I look forward to moving forward as new information comes out.

"dealing with Tom"?
you mean badgering, bullying and intimidating....and then he backed down. cool.

Just me_Paris-- wrote:

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Again, I didn't mean anything bad. I know the trouble Fred had with that piece of evidence. I just didn't know it was in plastic, and that's good. You know how they can claim the evidence has been tainted or compromised, that's all I meant.

I know you didnt mean anything bad.I had put it in a previous posting that it was in plastic. Just tried to better explain myself in case you misunderstood my previous posting.

jwb wrote:

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Good enough Paris sorry I guess after dealing with Tom yesterday I was exhausted trying to explain myself. The same info that is directly on beagles Blog "Passing through town" anyway thank you for clearing that up. I look forward to moving forward as new information comes out.

Me too, it sure is getting wied to say the least. And I still don't think that was Beagle anyhow. I keep watching this mans face at the end of the video and he winks, smiles, almost looks happy with his performance. That's all it looked like to me, hard to take it seriously. As for posting this a day ahead of the day MM really went missing, maybe that was this persons intent. Who knows...

JamesRenner wrote:

Family doesn't want to respond. It allows them the ability to disparage the book when it comes out, by saying, "well, it can't be the truth because he never even spoke to the family or her friends." The thing is, I have spoken to family members. I have spoken to friends. All that will end up happening is they will be left out of the book and not have the chance to share the good stories they know about their loved one.
It's sad. If they truly cared for Maura, they'd want to share the good time in a book that will be out there forever.

Oh, hi James! Thank you for all your work on this story. I think missing people should have a voice and you seem to be a good voice for Maura. I too hope the family will see this as being true, and give you pertinant information, some clarity on things that are out there that they claim are simply not true. Your intentions are good and you are trying to get to the truth, anybody can see that. JMOPO.

Snowy wrote:

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"dealing with Tom"?
you mean badgering, bullying and intimidating....and then he backed down. cool.

Badgering by showing his own Posts?I hardley find it badgering show me what I said was wrong or mean. I stopped showing his own posts when he said he had enough at looking at his own words. Shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass building.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I know you didnt mean anything bad.I had put it in a previous posting that it was in plastic. Just tried to better explain myself in case you misunderstood my previous posting.

Thank you Citygirl because i di care what you think and do not mean to offend. I can write something at times that can be taken in more than one way. I'm working on that. And I do know how it feels to be missing a family memeber. After someone tried to kill my sister, she was hiden away by a group she ran with. When she was found, the person took her to Florida and after awhile he started letting Loretta go out for pop and cigs. But she was calling her son. The wife eported that and FBI watched the phone booth until they were able to bring her home and put him in jail. Then she was hidden again, but thrown to the cement again once they found her. Now my sister is gone after 10 years of suffering. I know pain, sorrow and the not knowing hurts the most.

JamesRenner wrote:

Family doesn't want to respond. It allows them the ability to disparage the book when it comes out, by saying, "well, it can't be the truth because he never even spoke to the family or her friends." The thing is, I have spoken to family members. I have spoken to friends. All that will end up happening is they will be left out of the book and not have the chance to share the good stories they know about their loved one.
It's sad. If they truly cared for Maura, they'd want to share the good time in a book that will be out there forever.

there is no expectation for any change in the way this family communicates with the public about the missing MM. their preferred method is to monitor obscure online forums, such as this one...forums that are steeped in pettiness, drama and chaos, and lacking the impact of a sincere, strong, rational and organized appeal to the public.

FM's message is unchanged..."scumbag ", and LE's failure to immediately identify and act upon the runaway/suicide/abduction/homi cide within minutes of their arrival.