Maura Murray

jwb wrote:

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I agree- with that being said, there has been way to much nastiness by some and it all needs to stop. John Greens comment was not cool.

No it wasn't cool. I'm glad we agree.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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They will only attack if provoked, cornered or they think their babies are in danger. Above all else they protect their young.
I've known of animals that were attacked by bear but not people.

Thanks!! The ones at the zoo you could feed & they would do tricks!! The guy said they were former circus bears, I have videos of them on myspace! They were very cute :)

I guess thats not a good theory then.. We mainly just have deer & squirrels here..

Emmett Dove wrote:

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he has alot of post on renners blog.. I found it interesting because all of the replies are very long & he puts his name as a sig.. plus in one he mentioned ashville & thats where u turn towards the harrahs cherokee casino, & being around 4 hours away.. thats something you dont forget when its the only one close to you (me) cus im at the Virginia border bout 10 mins from the nascar racetrack..

I agree. I've read a few of his posts but I admit I skip over most of them. Just way to long to hold my interest.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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They will only attack if provoked, cornered or they think their babies are in danger. Above all else they protect their young.
I've known of animals that were attacked by bear but not people.

I read somewhere last summer that there hasn't been a bear attack on people in NH in over 100 years. I've seen a couple--usually when it gets very hot in the summer and they're seeking water

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Beagle, you are in deep dude. That sick video you posted on YouTube and then removed last night video shows you plainly and plainly for what you are. Also, you broke a number of laws in posting it. AND ... little did you know that the police are two slam dunk subpoenas and one computer expert down from finding you. Maybe the police already know you did not kill Maura, but you violated other laws and incurred potential civil liability in posting that video.
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Thursday Feb 9 Hey and Beagle, don't try to bullshit me ... you are not even close to smart enough to pull that off.
IMHO this is NOT the way to talk to someone that may have mental problems. It is a good way to push someone over the edge though.
I wonder why this new poster is going to the forums where Beagle has posted and ripping it to him. Beagle is silent afterwards. Strange.

I agree, the comments he made WERE out of control, but just for the record, Beagle stopped responding way before that...right after it was realized he was probably behind the videos. But, overall, John's comments were a bit harsh. People got emotional about being taunted, though. I don't think the full scope of dude's insanity was realized at that moment, either. Not justifying anything here, just looking from another perspective.

Truth wrote:

What could be found in a body of water...
I will give you one guess.
However, Beagle was always distracting.
I find it curious that he after pulling the first 2 videos perhaps due to the outrage he decided to create additional videos. Maybe he wanted to make himself look crazier to get the focus off of the original disgust with the anniversary videos.

And then added a video entitled "Body of Water" (I forget if it was plural)- that's very unlikely and would make no sense as many people's guttural response to the video or at least the title is one of disgust and fear again.(Although the body of water thing may be something else entirely, most people interpret it at least initially the same way that you did.

jwb wrote:

<quoted text>Frostman are you nh If I don't mind? I would like to hook up with you for a Beer sometime.

We're not in NH, but I spent some summers in NE (mostly ME and NH) and have first cousins in ME and RI. I came upon this forum while doing some research for a non-fiction project but was drawn in by the disappearance and the after-drama if you will.

I don't think this disappearance is about NH, it could have happened anywhere. ME and NH are among the safest and most wonderful places to live (weather notwithstanding), so I think it's time to put our collective heads together and (maybe) try to figure out what happened to Maura Murray.

We post because we can. As long as we stay within the rules according to Topix and our own morality code it's all good IMO.

Frostman wrote:

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so I think it's time to put our collective heads together and (maybe) try to figure out what happened to Maura Murray.

Thats the same reason I am here! I can only read to catch up, which I have read countless hours over the last month.. I can think of theories but I want to make sure that they havent been posted before, but most of what I have thought about has been posted..

Its also hard for me because I have never been to "New England", just NY & Atlantic City - so its hard for me to imagine the weather up that way.. When you have to consider elements, & I am in a warm state (most of the time) it is kind of hard to think of things that might could have happened.. Then, I factor in she was a 21yr old woman, & honestly I dont really remember what 21yr olds done when I was 21 (33 now) & woman do different stuff, so I guess im just here for morale support untill maybe some kind of clues come around or something good hits me!

jwb wrote:

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Honestly if citigirl doesn't respond to him one has to assume there is truth in what he is saying. He has given every opportunity to get it straight. The professor at West point contacted MR renner and straighten things out and Mr renner updated his Blog with corrections and now everyone knows the real story.

JWB this is an unfair statement that you have made. Just because I dont respond to Renner does not mean he is being truthful. He has put out videos,names and pointed the finger at others before checking out any facts. He is not interested in finding Maura. His only interest is trying to sell a book and make money regardless of who he drags through the mud. The title of his blog is called my search for Maura Murray. What a joke. He should change the name of his blog to inaccurate info and inaccurate facts.

Glad the bears are sleeping.Finally.
Why has the Art Gallery Maura worked at always been off Limits?
After viewing the assorted videos by 112dirtbag I gather he has interest in the arts I.E. drawing,keyboard,films&the INTERESTING lighting setup to the left of the keyboard.Not to mention his exceptional writing skills.Could mr112 worked/volunteered in some capacity at Mauras gallery?
If mr112 did live in Chatham,maybe in 74,were there any missing girls?Big "Body of water" at Chatham.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>JWB this is an unfair statement that you have made. Just because I dont respond to Renner does not mean he is being truthful. He has put out videos,names and pointed the finger at others before checking out any facts. He is not interested in finding Maura. His only interest is trying to sell a book and make money regardless of who he drags through the mud. The title of his blog is called my search for Maura Murray. What a joke. He should change the name of his blog to inaccurate info and inaccurate facts.

I'm not here to argue, so all I'll say is that's way off-base and full of irony.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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But eventually they do wake up Frostman. And when they do they are very very hungry.:)

awake and alert; the circus has come to town.

jwb wrote:

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Frostman are you nh If I don't mind? I would like to hook up with you for a Beer sometime.

there it is; she'd like to hook up.
do i understand that correctly?

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Beagle, you are in deep dude. That sick video you posted on YouTube and then removed last night video shows you plainly and plainly for what you are. Also, you broke a number of laws in posting it. AND ... little did you know that the police are two slam dunk subpoenas and one computer expert down from finding you. Maybe the police already know you did not kill Maura, but you violated other laws and incurred potential civil liability in posting that video.
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Thursday Feb 9 Hey and Beagle, don't try to bullshit me ... you are not even close to smart enough to pull that off.
IMHO this is NOT the way to talk to someone that may have mental problems. It is a good way to push someone over the edge though.
I wonder why this new poster is going to the forums where Beagle has posted and ripping it to him. Beagle is silent afterwards. Strange.

a cheap thrill by relentlessly pursuing Beagle; a pathetic bully.

Frostman wrote:

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We're not in NH, but I spent some summers in NE (mostly ME and NH) and have first cousins in ME and RI. I came upon this forum while doing some research for a non-fiction project but was drawn in by the disappearance and the after-drama if you will.
I don't think this disappearance is about NH, it could have happened anywhere. ME and NH are among the safest and most wonderful places to live (weather notwithstanding), so I think it's time to put our collective heads together and (maybe) try to figure out what happened to Maura Murray.
We post because we can. As long as we stay within the rules according to Topix and our own morality code it's all good IMO.

what is possibly left to discuss? every imaginative scenario has been detailed over many years. there are no new clues, absolutely none.

Citigirl,
What do you know about the art gallery Maura worked at?

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>JWB this is an unfair statement that you have made. Just because I dont respond to Renner does not mean he is being truthful. He has put out videos,names and pointed the finger at others before checking out any facts. He is not interested in finding Maura. His only interest is trying to sell a book and make money regardless of who he drags through the mud. The title of his blog is called my search for Maura Murray. What a joke. He should change the name of his blog to inaccurate info and inaccurate facts.

If someone was dragging me through the mud I would set it straight. You handle it differently and that is your choice.He set the record straight on the west point teacher? Correct? Anyway, Your choice and we see it differently. No big deal

Renners blog. My search for Maura Murray. ATM: Open qustion. Can anyone find a quote from police or prosocutors stating that Maura Murray was seen at the ATM video and that she was alone? Im attempting to back track this detail to a primary source. Update you guys are great. Thank you. To me it sounds like posters checked tis out and not him. Fred Murray releases statement regarding creeps video. Um the statement said the Murray family so Im not sure where he is getting that it was actually FM whom made this statement. Is this the creep? With photos he says there are some similarities to the creep. What do you think? Obviously his book is not going to be written about the facts if he is asking the opnion of others before checking anything out. Need help in Norfolk County. Who are these Women? Update corrected. Hes throwing things out there before checking the facts. More thoughts on the Londonderry ping? Seriously whos writing the book Renner or the posters. For someone who claims to be a book writer he appears to be relying on the public for the answers.

Frostman wrote:

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We're not in NH, but I spent some summers in NE (mostly ME and NH) and have first cousins in ME and RI. I came upon this forum while doing some research for a non-fiction project but was drawn in by the disappearance and the after-drama if you will.
I don't think this disappearance is about NH, it could have happened anywhere. ME and NH are among the safest and most wonderful places to live (weather notwithstanding), so I think it's time to put our collective heads together and (maybe) try to figure out what happened to Maura Murray.
We post because we can. As long as we stay within the rules according to Topix and our own morality code it's all good IMO.

I went looking at the jane do site the other day after it was talked about here and it is just so sad.I am so fortunate not to have a loved one murdered or missing. I just can't imagine.We go to Aruba a lot and of course you then think about Natalee and Robyn and that is so incredibly safe over there you wouldn't believe it. almost 100 % employment rate.

Mr. 1974?.....1974 Lady in the Dunes Provincetown.Not far from Chatham.One of the states most prolific homicides.Provincetown is an Art community.A body of water&A bridge to get there.