Maura Murray

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>A responder at the scene saw the rag in the tail pipe.{ not CS} They had stated they had seen a clean rag in the tail pipe.To my knowledge they have never stated the color of the rag.

Was it the tow-truck driver, as stated in Renner's blog? Is that reliable, or are you saying it from something you heard from someone you know that knows someone that knows someone?

Shack wrote:

<quoted text>Perhaps just a Sky....

Here we go again. Shack putting people's names in a suspicious light on a public forum when there is absolutely no proof that this person did anything at all wrong or even knew about Maura Murray. Hope it doesn't turn into another public lynching like the SBD went through.

Det Columbo wrote:

The dogs did have hits at the A frame.
Upstairs back left bedroom closet..Carpet.
Laundry room first level right rear part of residence.
John

So were the results of the tests on the carpet inconclusive? Is that your take on that? Unless it was someone with a medical problem I have a hard time believing it was menstrual blood. I know someone that does have a medical issue that causes more than usual and it wouldn't be enough to leak a noticeable amount on some carpet...

Det Columbo wrote:

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That's why all original accounts of the accident time were at 7:05 PM as stated by Chief Williams and NHSP as well as in Newspaper accounts.
AND then it all changed.!
John

So, in essence, a wreck happened at 7:03pm, but no one checks on the driver or calls LE for 24 minutes...and not even then do they check on the driver? Where there's no cell reception? Wow.

Just me--paris wrote:

The rag: it was clean, minus the gook that was on the outside part of it. When rolled open, it was apparent it was more or less still white and likely never used. It was white until twisted/shoved into the tailpipe.

This is bull crap. It was never said to be rolled up. You are stating several different things concerning this rag. You say it was clean, you say it had gook on it, then you state it was more or less still white and never used. It was described by a responder at the scene to be a clean rag in the tail pipe. They never said the color or whether or not it was twisted either. Just a clean rag in the tail pipe.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Here we go again. Shack putting people's names in a suspicious light on a public forum when there is absolutely no proof that this person did anything at all wrong or even knew about Maura Murray. Hope it doesn't turn into another public lynching like the SBD went through.

AMEN! I been biting my tounge all night.. Shouldnt names be saved for Johns PM box or LE? Wow.. I see why you people stay mad & dont trust any newbies.. Shouldnt put peoples real names thats not already known to people or people that dont use their real names as Avatars..
This forum is sorta dangerous..

Brilliant Brian wrote:

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Was it the tow-truck driver, as stated in Renner's blog? Is that reliable, or are you saying it from something you heard from someone you know that knows someone that knows someone?

No it was not the tow truck driver as I have already previously stated.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>This is bull crap. It was never said to be rolled up. You are stating several different things concerning this rag. You say it was clean, you say it had gook on it, then you state it was more or less still white and never used. It was described by a responder at the scene to be a clean rag in the tail pipe. They never said the color or whether or not it was twisted either. Just a clean rag in the tail pipe.

Are you & Paris both family? & if so, maybe different sides? cus why are yall arguing? Its none of my business & you need not answer me, but ive watched it go back & forth all night.. Just curious..

Brilliant Brian wrote:

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So were the results of the tests on the carpet inconclusive? Is that your take on that? Unless it was someone with a medical problem I have a hard time believing it was menstrual blood. I know someone that does have a medical issue that causes more than usual and it wouldn't be enough to leak a noticeable amount on some carpet...

The carpet tested positive for blood. PIs said they would pass everything they had learned concerning this case to LE. I do not know if DNA was ever done or if it had anything to do with Maura.

Desenrascanco wrote:

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Are you & Paris both family? & if so, maybe different sides? cus why are yall arguing? Its none of my business & you need not answer me, but ive watched it go back & forth all night.. Just curious..

Me and Paris family no. I have no clue who Paris is.Iam not arguing just stating the facts with what I have learned with traveling to NH for 3 and a half years of searching and talking with people since Maura disappeared.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Me and Paris family no. I have no clue who Paris is.Iam not arguing just stating the facts with what I have learned with traveling to NH for 3 and a half years of searching and talking with people since Maura disappeared.

but arent you the citigirl thats kin to Maura? or is that the wrong info also? Im sorry M`am, just kinda confused here..

Hi all,As far as I know MrLavoie was the tow truck driver and told Mr Murray about the rag in the tailpipe.Whether Mr Murray actuaklly saw the rag is unknown.It sounds to me like MrLavoie reported to MrMurray after the rag was found.If Mr Lavoie actually saved the rag to show to MrMurray I don't know or was this a conversation they had at some point.If MrLavoies' garage was still working on the saturn after Maura was declared missing I find that odd.Maybe that it is why it is sitting out in the weather,too many people had touched it.I am guessing the insurance company would have totalled out a 6 yesr old saturn.Has anyone heard the one about a local police officer that would wait for the tipsy ladies outside that bar and then offer them a ride home just to be on the safe side.What a nice person.Take care philip

Hi all,Looking at the saturn contents on MrRenners blog.There is a round clear plastic lid I with a bar code.I called the company a while back with the bar code.they said it was from a makeup mirror maybe with a brush.I am still wondering as Beagle mentioned ,if Maura was injured over the weekend before she vanished and so ,makeup was used,leaving late when it was darker out ,no public viewing of atm or liquor store video.If the car was on campus for the friday snowstorm someone had to dig it out before monday.Shovel in trunk,borrowed shovel,car undercover some place,someone helped or did it for her, snow melted. take care philip

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>This is bull crap. It was never said to be rolled up. You are stating several different things concerning this rag. You say it was clean, you say it had gook on it, then you state it was more or less still white and never used. It was described by a responder at the scene to be a clean rag in the tail pipe. They never said the color or whether or not it was twisted either. Just a clean rag in the tail pipe.

Thanks Citi, what was the actualy condition of the rag? Being clesn doesn't make any sense if it was really in the tailpipe. RE: the carpet samples, if they are evidence, it makes sense that nothing has been released about them--similar to other evidence. It doesn't follow though, if PI's took half and LE was given half. What were the results of the PI's sample or was it just tested for blood and then handed over? If so, the testing could've been done right at the A Frame and other areas of the house should've been test. Even areas that have been cleaned will show positive if the right chemical agent is used (luminol?)

Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks Citi, what was the actualy condition of the rag? Being clesn doesn't make any sense if it was really in the tailpipe. RE: the carpet samples, if they are evidence, it makes sense that nothing has been released about them--similar to other evidence. It doesn't follow though, if PI's took half and LE was given half. What were the results of the PI's sample or was it just tested for blood and then handed over? If so, the testing could've been done right at the A Frame and other areas of the house should've been test. Even areas that have been cleaned will show positive if the right chemical agent is used (luminol?)

It doesnt make sense to me either.It was tested with luminol.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>It doesnt make sense to me either.It was tested with luminol.

Thanks for responding. So, if tested with luminol, the results were known on the scene? Was anywhere else in the house tested?

Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks for responding. So, if tested with luminol, the results were known on the scene? Was anywhere else in the house tested?

The testing was not done at the scene.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>She was not the only one there. There were others that were not PIs walking side by side with PIs at the same time as Beth. The PIs were friendly with everyone.

oh I didn't mean it like that. One of these PI's were her buddy and when I say she walked along side, I mean they talked and shared alot of what I've come to see as true over the years. No big deal. I saw pictures of the inside of that A frame. She either took them herself or took them from someone, somehow. Enough.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Did you ever see the forums/sites that she frequented?

Sorry, I almost missed this one, yes, I did and wow is all I can say to both. I stumbled upon them when I found out from her parents that Beth had died and then they disconected the phone el pronto. Mysterious......

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>The testing was not done at the scene.

so it could've been contaminated after it left the A frame? PI's have to have better skills than that.