Maura Murray

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>no problem, I'll try to adhere to rules!lol

ah I typed to slow before you posted. Thanks Anne

Q: are you positive you heard the chatter before say 7:10 ?

Jenkins wrote:

& how would u know that Hannah? How do u know Its a fact? Just wondering.
Also, whats the point of this person being a regular visitor to the mmm site?
Site has been the same for a few years from what I can tell.
Am I wrong here?

What I meant is, the site has IP tracking.

Anne

Q2: Did you hear dispatch talking at 7ish?

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>oo00oo Aren't you the one who woke me up to going off on 'production' a couple years ago? lol...Yes I appreciate that.

Yesss!!

I too have to join in on the clarification of the scanner incident. I am totally confused with your different statements from prior & now.

Thanks

Jenkins wrote:

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Yes its very interesting.
People are bringing up the egg thing again? Really?? Why not just suggest she was abducted by a UFO? Didn't someone see lights in the sky that night?
Seriously it seems like whenever the conversation is starting to get somewhere people break out these crazy theories and/or "facts" that completely derail the convo.
At least everyone is starting to pick up on this so Its not gonna work much longer.
Why was the family so adamant that nothing in her previous life before the accident mattered? What r they afraid of?
Watch the disappeared show, they got families talking about their daughter being a prostitute for drugs, but they don't care about that, they care about finding their daughter.
Why does it seem like this family was kore interested in maintaining her all American girl image then actually finding the truth.
Why didn't Fred cooperate with the investigation? What does he have to hide?
Why hasn't he ever come out with his alibi? I find it highly suspicious that he couldn't be reached for almost 2 days. You would think that if your daughter is missing u would do anything and everything to make sure people don't think your a suspect. Remember there's a 99% chance that whoever did this crime was someone Maura knew and trusted.
Where was Fred that whole time? Why didn't he return smiths calls That night? Was he driving between mass Nh and Ct?
I find it very telling that nh LE has never said anything about eliminating him as a suspect.
I'd bet theyve never been able to confirm his alibi. Generally when someone is missing and the cops eliminate the family they tell the media. Why hasn't this happened in this case.

The "golden egg" is a name for the secret boyfriend. Nothing to do with UFOs. The guy is said to be working at a genetics lab. Coinkydink maybe, or maybe there is something to some of Beagle´s theories.

Anne

Q3 Did you hear later chatter after the Westmans call at 7:27 ?

Jenkins wrote:

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I agree w this statement, it very well could be dithering. The black/white scale is not right in this photo so no worthwhile conclusion can be drawn from it.
But I guess that again brings up the question of why didn't they use any up to date pictures of her?
One of the pics is clearly her high school senior pic and another is her most likely at the prom. Why? Yea she looks wicked cute in these pics but how r they gonna help find her? Then judging by the size of her cheeks/dimples most of the other pics look pretty old as well.
In nov 03 she looked completely different, much much thinner.
Did they not have current pics of her? Did they not take any when she was there for the holidays?
Is there a reason they didn't want to use current photos? Seems highly unusual for a family to release 2-3 yr old pics of their missing loved one.? This, as with many other aspects of this case, is just not standard operating procedure for a missing persons case.

Jenkins …

Just what is standard operating procedure for a missing person’s case? Could you specify? Please advise us.

The original pictures on the Bowers site were quickly taken by Sharon & Billy (Billy may’ve had some in his wallet) on very short notice when they were abruptly summoned to go to Haverhill, NH. Pretty good foresight on their part, I’d say.

One picture was scanned & sent to NH where, I believe, there was a computer problem. This call from family may be on the GCSR. To my knowledge the picture of Nana taken at end of 2003 & I believe, the group picture with friends was taken during a 2003 vacations.

There is a video of Maura taken at Christmas with family in 2003, not published, with one exception … either 20/20 or Investigative Discovery made a still picture of Maura out of the video.

Maura did not often wear her hair down. The high school picture was used to show what she looked like with her hair down.

Keep in mind when Maura went to WP then to Amherst where she was attending classes, working 2 jobs, traveling to & working clinicals while remaining on the dean’s list it probably didn’t leave a lot of time for photo ops.

Of note … through the years there are probably more pictures of Maura Murray & more coverage of Maura out there, unlike many missing persons who do not have an abundance of pictures, unfortunately. Have you ever searched The Doe Network?

As you said,“She looks wicked cute in these pictures but how are they gonna’ help find her? What’s your point? What is your implication? It would be difficult to take a picture of Maura that wasn’t a good picture. She is a lovely looking young woman, who I might add, is unconditionally loved.

Which brings me to the “pseudo mug shot,” the one a few people have questioned is even Maura. We see no proof that this was even taken by the PD. There are more questions than answers. My first response after seeing it was,“OMG … that picture looks like the person was kept hostage & not fed well.

Maura looked well at Christmas, a month or two after that picture? What goes on here?

hannah_b wrote:

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Maybe some of Beagle´s ideas aren´t as outlandish as one would think.

true

jwb wrote:

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Does this mean you won't do yes or no answers?

I Will do yes or no

yes I will

jwb wrote:

Anne
Q3 Did you hear later chatter after the Westmans call at 7:27 ?

No

Oh jwb, how can this work when chatter vs official pops up. I heard official, but chatter wasnt official, it just came on.

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>A person connected to a major investigative agency, came to our home a couple years ago,'fishing' but had a gun. Not someone from this forum, obviously someone who followed it.
Talked to us both and it left us both unnerved. I knew someone who traced his plate for us. Even though I frustrate you and irratate you, if you knew the details of this, it would shock you, seriously. You have said before you are done with me and don't believe a word I say. which makes me discouraged. Believe this, this missing person case has larger implications than you know or I want to know.

Private investigators? I mean, it sounds like this may be an "inside job" as some have suspected, and will never be (publicly) solved because everyone is too hush-hush. On the other hand, I know some MAJOR PI's don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and could be blowing smoke. Then again I have no idea who or what they're implicating. If they threaned you, I really hope you informed LE. Noy my business, I know, just for your own safety. I would never disregard everything someone says, Anne, but sometimes it seems like you contradict yourself every now and then.

anne you missed Q uestion 1 and 2

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>No

Thank you

Anne wrote:

Oh jwb, how can this work when chatter vs official pops up. I heard official, but chatter wasnt official, it just came on.

Ok lets rephrase

Are you positive you heard about a car accident and BOL for a girl 5'7 prior to say 7:10?

jwb. sorry, I dont see it

Jenkins wrote:

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Yes its very interesting.
People are bringing up the egg thing again? Really?? Why not just suggest she was abducted by a UFO? Didn't someone see lights in the sky that night?
Seriously it seems like whenever the conversation is starting to get somewhere people break out these crazy theories and/or "facts" that completely derail the convo.
At least everyone is starting to pick up on this so Its not gonna work much longer.
Why was the family so adamant that nothing in her previous life before the accident mattered? What r they afraid of?
Watch the disappeared show, they got families talking about their daughter being a prostitute for drugs, but they don't care about that, they care about finding their daughter.
Why does it seem like this family was kore interested in maintaining her all American girl image then actually finding the truth.
Why didn't Fred cooperate with the investigation? What does he have to hide?
Why hasn't he ever come out with his alibi? I find it highly suspicious that he couldn't be reached for almost 2 days. You would think that if your daughter is missing u would do anything and everything to make sure people don't think your a suspect. Remember there's a 99% chance that whoever did this crime was someone Maura knew and trusted.
Where was Fred that whole time? Why didn't he return smiths calls That night? Was he driving between mass Nh and Ct?
I find it very telling that nh LE has never said anything about eliminating him as a suspect.
I'd bet theyve never been able to confirm his alibi. Generally when someone is missing and the cops eliminate the family they tell the media. Why hasn't this happened in this case.

I've wondered these same things about Fred many, many times. Him being adamant the FBI get involved always comes in a very close second in the list of reasons I beleive he is innocent. Maura being his daughter( that he was very close to) is the first.

The egg thing is too far out there, as are 90% of Beagle's theories.

yes, positive before 7 10

ANNE , can you answer the post 15516?