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I'm confident in the fact that you can't track a tag from a "major investigative agency". If Local LE whether it be sheriff or police run a tag of a potential "major investigative agency" vehicle it will come up as a no hit. From there you have to assume who the agency is. You will also be asked by your superiors why you randomly ran a no hit plate.
Your local friend who ran the plate for you will then tell you stop posting this on the message boards. The police officer who ran the plate would continue to hear grief every time you told the story by the "major investigative agency" that is following this message board so closely. For the record I am not defending anne's comments as I truly don't believe what she said for a second but what is a "no hit" plate?? I asked my brother who went through training to become a state police in vt, but ended up being an investigator for Immigration, he said there's no such thing as a "no hit" plate. He said if u run a plate and it comes back no hit that your supposed to pull that person over and tow the car, bc it's not registered. He said if you run the plates of a FBI agents car it will come back registered to the us government. You won't get any further info from that so it's not like you would b able to determine whether they're FBI, ice or any specific info but you will get a name on the registration, it will be "us gov't" A "no hit" means the car isn't registered. He also said that your supervised isn't gonna say shit about the plate you ran. On patrol police r running plates all day, between all the different officers the supervisor is I charge of this could b hundreds of plates. Unless there is a complaint theyre not gonna go thru every plate you ran, that's just not practical. Sorry if this is splitting hairs but what you said makes no sense.
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Jenkins
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Simply Sarcasm wrote: I'm reading the old posts on this Topix thread - and I'm wondering whatever happened to the theory of Dawn's, regarding the Londonderry ping. Dawn stated that the affidavit by Todd Landry,(the same referenced on Renner's blog), couldn't have been authentic,(speaking as a professional in the wireless telecommunications field). She cited specific reasons why.
I thought it was accepted that this affidavit is legitimate. Reading Dawn's posts make me wonder. Thoughts? Good question, i thought the exact same thing. Is this Londonderry ping real or not? I thought it was accepted as real but then reading dawns posts she makes a damn convincing argument for it not being real. Renner's site completely contradicts itself on this matter. He says somewhere that Landry confirmed it to be real by he shows landry's response to him and Landry clearly states that je can't comment on the case at all. So is that document real or not? Either way it has pretty serious implications. Either it's real and someone in the Londonderry area was trying to reach Maura that day or it's fake and someone wrote up a fake doc an planted it somewhere to be found which I find hard to believe. Something makes me think it's actually fake, particularly what dawn says about the 22 mile thing, which she claims is bullshit. There's way too many factors at play to say there's a 22 mil radius around the tower where it works
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For the record I am not defending anne's comments as I truly don't believe what she said for a second but what is a "no hit" plate??
I asked my brother who went through training to become a state police in vt, but ended up being an investigator for Immigration, he said there's no such thing as a "no hit" plate. He said if u run a plate and it comes back no hit that your supposed to pull that person over and tow the car, bc it's not registered.
He said if you run the plates of a FBI agents car it will come back registered to the us government. You won't get any further info from that so it's not like you would b able to determine whether they're FBI, ice or any specific info but you will get a name on the registration, it will be "us gov't"
A "no hit" means the car isn't registered.
He also said that your supervised isn't gonna say shit about the plate you ran. On patrol police r running plates all day, between all the different officers the supervisor is I charge of this could b hundreds of plates.
Unless there is a complaint theyre not gonna go thru every plate you ran, that's just not practical.
Sorry if this is splitting hairs but what you said makes no sense. Most of this sounds right. My parents were cops for over a combined 30 years (in the mid-west) and they ran a lot of plates every day that they didn't run past their superiors. I can't imagine what a "no-hit" would mean, as you are right about gov't-owned vehicles and the only thing I could imagine being a no-hit is if the license plate was expired.
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Snowy
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Simply - to clarify the exception you took to my post.... ********** citigirl wrote: Many of us have squabbled on this forum. But your posting is plain cruel and heartless. Snowy wrote: i recall the days of vicious piling on to Beagle; rotten cruel posts. i guess there is a double standard. THIS was the post I took issue with. I never claimed that you were Reviewer, nor had any hand in their posts. ********** i don't think you understand the "piling on to Beagle" i'm referencing. it is NOT recent, and not related to the "112 Dirtbag" videos. citigirl would, of course, know this. Beagle's treatment by certain posters a few years ago was unspeakably cruel. a group of posters, some still here today, revealed VERY personal information about him to this forum, and delighted in mocking him, assigned a mental health diagnosis to him, and bullied him about being "on/off his meds". all in the name of Maura Murray....someone they never met or knew. perhaps you can understand why many of us are protective of him. and, yes. Dawn and i vigorously stood up for him when others did not. i owe no apology for not joining in to express concern about someone's opinion of Anne, much as you thought i should. some terrible bullying has gone on here, perhaps before your time. to that end, it's a double standard for Anne and others to be offended, while refusing to take responsibility for the people they regularly targeted and intentionally hurt. i hope this helps your understanding of my position in the matter.
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looking4amoose
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Good question, i thought the exact same thing. Is this Londonderry ping real or not? I thought it was accepted as real but then reading dawns posts she makes a damn convincing argument for it not being real. Renner's site completely contradicts itself on this matter. He says somewhere that Landry confirmed it to be real by he shows landry's response to him and Landry clearly states that je can't comment on the case at all.
So is that document real or not? Either way it has pretty serious implications.
Either it's real and someone in the Londonderry area was trying to reach Maura that day or it's fake and someone wrote up a fake doc an planted it somewhere to be found which I find hard to believe.
Something makes me think it's actually fake, particularly what dawn says about the 22 mile thing, which she claims is bullshit. There's way too many factors at play to say there's a 22 mil radius around the tower where it works Pings are used to locate cell phones all the time...I'm not sure why Dawn feels this one is different than others.
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“Tha Gooch”
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Jenkins wrote: Seems to me that a couple people in here have some serious delusions of grandeur..
I mean come on already, we r really supPosed to believe that yOur boss told u to stop posting on topix Emmett?? Really??
That's absolutely insane, agaaim, can anyone actualt give one legitimate reason why the FBI would give 2 shits about what's going on on the topix maura Murray thread??!
Seriously just one good reasOn.
It's tOtal complete bullshit.
& even if they did care why would they care about the crap you've said Emmett? Your clearly not fr the area and have no useful info pertaining to the case so why would they go after you?
Do u really expect us to believe this crap?
I've been posting for years why haven't they said anything to me? Or one of the many other peoole who've been here fr years?
I just think it's super Fucked up to make things up here, we r talking about a beautiful young girl who is missing and most likely murdered.
Come on people!
This is a message board that a few hundred people look at, maybe a few thousand ever. You people think it's a lot more important than it really is.
Again, why would the FBI even care about any of this? Please give me one good hypothetical reason bc I can't think of one Why would my boss say that? Honestly its none of your business.. & my boss & the FBI have nothing at all in common.. your just rambling, you'd be surprised who reads this forum.. I relly dont care at all if you believe me.. If you want to call me out by my name, which you dont know me, I have a Avatar name right here, & not been so rude I might would have said who all I have talked to.. John/Bill/Amy etc can tell you 1 of the people I talked to & they mos def cared about what I had to say!
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hannah_b
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Simply Sarcasm wrote: I'm reading the old posts on this Topix thread - and I'm wondering whatever happened to the theory of Dawn's, regarding the Londonderry ping. Dawn stated that the affidavit by Todd Landry,(the same referenced on Renner's blog), couldn't have been authentic,(speaking as a professional in the wireless telecommunications field). She cited specific reasons why.
I thought it was accepted that this affidavit is legitimate. Reading Dawn's posts make me wonder. Thoughts? I put forward my thoughts on this some time ago, but here goes: We was told from the very beginning there was no call, incoming or outgoing to Mauraīs cell phone after she left Amherst, except for her checking voice mail once that afternoon. This was always thought of as a given fact because it came from family via Helena. Dawn was right in that there could not have been any knowledge of a call pinging off the Londonderry tower since there would be no records of an unanswered call. HOWEVER, it seems we were once again screwed over, and there really was an incoming call pinging off the L-derry tower. There could only be records of it if the caller ID was already known, that is if the call was logged. Which it apparantly was, in spite of what we were told for years. This means, someone called Maura from the Londonderry area (22 mile radius) that afternoon, and the callerīs number was known but apparently not the identity of the caller. Possibly a tract phone. So - Dawn was right given the "facts" we were given, but which apparently were all lies. Again. At least this is my understanding.
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“Tha Gooch”
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your whole ramble about me & the FBI makes no sense.. & is basically just trying to "bait me" into saying.. Personally I can post on Topix all that I want, but I dont want to because there is nothing BUT DRAMA here!! I dont even know or ever met an FBI agent.. I was asked to stop posting, I have pretty much.. I dont have to, I want to.. People want to call me out by my real name, Im going to say something.. Why has no one ever called you?- Hell if I know Guy.. Why did anyone call me & where I work? 2 Times I know why, the other reasons where just funny listening to northerners curse me.. Much like setiments of Dale Gribble (You Dont Know Me But I knowwww Youuu) kind of stuff.. I never said it was a big conspiracy, I talked to LE officials from 2 states.. Was told to "leave it alone" - I think they know much more than you..
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citigirl
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Snowy wrote: Simply - to clarify the exception you took to my post....
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citigirl wrote:
Many of us have squabbled on this forum. But your posting is plain cruel and heartless.
Snowy wrote:
i recall the days of vicious piling on to Beagle; rotten cruel posts. i guess there is a double standard.
THIS was the post I took issue with. I never claimed that you were Reviewer, nor had any hand in their posts.
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i don't think you understand the "piling on to Beagle" i'm referencing. it is NOT recent, and not related to the "112 Dirtbag" videos. citigirl would, of course, know this.
Beagle's treatment by certain posters a few years ago was unspeakably cruel. a group of posters, some still here today, revealed VERY personal information about him to this forum, and delighted in mocking him, assigned a mental health diagnosis to him, and bullied him about being "on/off his meds". all in the name of Maura Murray....someone they never met or knew.
perhaps you can understand why many of us are protective of him.
and, yes. Dawn and i vigorously stood up for him when others did not.
i owe no apology for not joining in to express concern about someone's opinion of Anne, much as you thought i should.
some terrible bullying has gone on here, perhaps before your time.
to that end, it's a double standard for Anne and others to be offended, while refusing to take responsibility for the people they regularly targeted and intentionally hurt.
i hope this helps your understanding of my position in the matter. Sorry Snowy but I was not here several years back.I Dont know Beagle or anything about Beagle. Nor have I ever posted anything about or against Beagle. Why should I be held responsible for other posters that you think regularly and intentionally hurt others? If you have a problem with what posters have said you need to take it up with them and not me. I can only be held accountable for what I post and not what you and others post.
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hannah_b
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FWIW, when I first saw the "mug shot" of Maura on Rennerīs blog, my first thought was "is she on some kind of drug". I also believe we more or less know why she up and left Amherst. I think the reason was she had (or thought she had) violated her probation from November,and was at risk of going to jail. I donīt believe Billy knew, based on what he said about his conversation with Maura after the Hadley crash. There may have been some other incident as well, that we still donīt know about, that may have been a real risk of her being imprisoned. Maybe thatīs what the friend who said she "didnīt want to get Maura in trouble" by telling what she knew, was alluding to. Iīm not sure how much Fred knew, but I donīt think he knew everything. There was something on her mind (possibly that she had violated her probation) the night of the Hadley crash that she urgently wanted to talk to him about.
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Desenrascanco wrote: your whole ramble about me & the FBI makes no sense.. & is basically just trying to "bait me" into saying.. Personally I can post on Topix all that I want, but I dont want to because there is nothing BUT DRAMA here!!
I dont even know or ever met an FBI agent..
I was asked to stop posting, I have pretty much.. I dont have to, I want to.. People want to call me out by my real name, Im going to say something..
Why has no one ever called you?- Hell if I know Guy.. Why did anyone call me & where I work? 2 Times I know why, the other reasons where just funny listening to northerners curse me.. Much like setiments of Dale Gribble (You Dont Know Me But I knowwww Youuu) kind of stuff..
I never said it was a big conspiracy, I talked to LE officials from 2 states.. Was told to "leave it alone" - I think they know much more than you.. Why are they so concerned that you "leave it alone"?Why are they trying to shut you up?????
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“Tha Gooch”
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findmaura wrote: <quoted text>
Why are they so concerned that you "leave it alone"?Why are they trying to shut you up????? for my own safety.. has nothing to do with this message board.. The 1 thing that Jenkins did point out is that I am not from the area nor have friends/family/ anything at all up that way in NH/MA.. More or less got mad about what I said to someone almost a month ago & what was said in a video comment.. They are not trying to shut me up, basically just letting me know to "mind my own business" & find another mystery.. Just their "two cents" as they told me.. Trust.. If I knew anything at all that could solve this case, I would have told it..
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Jenkins
Astoria, NY
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Desenrascanco wrote: your whole ramble about me & the FBI makes no sense.. & is basically just trying to "bait me" into saying.. Personally I can post on Topix all that I want, but I dont want to because there is nothing BUT DRAMA here!!
I dont even know or ever met an FBI agent..
I was asked to stop posting, I have pretty much.. I dont have to, I want to.. People want to call me out by my real name, Im going to say something..
Why has no one ever called you?- Hell if I know Guy.. Why did anyone call me & where I work? 2 Times I know why, the other reasons where just funny listening to northerners curse me.. Much like setiments of Dale Gribble (You Dont Know Me But I knowwww Youuu) kind of stuff..
I never said it was a big conspiracy, I talked to LE officials from 2 states.. Was told to "leave it alone" - I think they know much more than you.. Ok so now you've been contacted by LE officials from 2 states?? Your joking right? Why would anybody care that someone from Virginia is posting on these forums? Why would they care enough to call your boss and tell him to tell u to stop posting? Your not serious here r u? It's not like your posting inside info from the investigation? You've said many times that you've only recently began to follow this case after watching disappeared on Netflix. I'm sorry to ask again but why? Why would anyone care what you post on this forum? What could it possibly effect in the real world? I would propose as evidence that what your saying is total bullshit is the fact that your still posting! So you've been told by your boss And you've been contacted by LE officials from 2 separate states and your still posting? Come on, if that really happened there is no way in hell u would ever post on here again. It's nor like your new moniker is a secret or something, your first post you told everyone that it was u, Emmett. There's nothing wring with posting on here, there's no LE agencies in ANY state that cares, the FBI certainly doesn't care & it certainly is not effecting anything in the real world. "leave it alone" that's all they said to u? So they just assumed that u would know they were talking about this case? If that actually happened and that's what they said to u I would go back fr more info be use that would never be said about posting on this thread about Maura.
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“Tha Gooch”
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Ok so now you've been contacted by LE officials from 2 states?? Your joking right?
Why would anybody care that someone from Virginia is posting on these forums?
Why would they care enough to call your boss and tell him to tell u to stop posting?
Your not serious here r u?
It's not like your posting inside info from the investigation? You've said many times that you've only recently began to follow this case after watching disappeared on Netflix.
I'm sorry to ask again but why? Why would anyone care what you post on this forum? What could it possibly effect in the real world?
I would propose as evidence that what your saying is total bullshit is the fact that your still posting! So you've been told by your boss
And you've been contacted by LE officials from 2 separate states and your still posting?
Come on, if that really happened there is no way in hell u would ever post on here again. It's nor like your new moniker is a secret or something, your first post you told everyone that it was u, Emmett.
There's nothing wring with posting on here, there's no LE agencies in ANY state that cares, the FBI certainly doesn't care & it certainly is not effecting anything in the real world.
"leave it alone" that's all they said to u? So they just assumed that u would know they were talking about this case?
If that actually happened and that's what they said to u I would go back fr more info be use that would never be said about posting on this thread about Maura. You can argue all you like sir.. Let me make this a little more clear.. 1. I was contacted by a northerner, an LE. Dont believe me, call them for yourself.. 2. I talked to LE in my own town - Out Of My own accord! 3. Some northerner called my boss cursing on voicemail, he just said "leave it alone" & if you dont mind "stop posting curses & arguing" - Didnt "whip me" or anything.. Just asked me to play nice.. 4. What with you & the FBI?? I never talked to them.. 5. The LE officer I spoke with from up north was about Videos, if you want to know so bad call the 603 number, & ask them.. I NEVER said that I was scared to post, Never said that they told me NOT to post, I said it was "their personal two cents" to just leave it alone cus honestly I attracted the wrong kind of attention.. Thats all I am going to say on this subject, if you dont believe me I DONT CARE!! Get over yourself & the FBI theory.. I DONT CARE TO ARGUE OVER SOMETHING STUPID.. If you could read, I said - I dont have to quit posting, I WANT TO! I answered a couple questions.. Its not like I said LE, or as your saying The FBI (Christ sakes, read the darn post man)- Spoke to me! I dont care of you believe it.. I told people on this board who it was & what they said.. & They didnt tell me to leave, they just said "leave it alone" which I guess your not understanding.. Leave the arguing alone about the videos! God Almighty.. where are the people I told this mans name to.. & why in the world anyone would lie about talking to LE over some videos is beyond me.. Ohh did I mention it wasnt THE FBI!! Good Grief Dude
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“Tha Gooch”
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again It was about videos sir.. I dont know how to be any clearer.. I wanted my name off those videos!! It had nothing to do with Topix.. I dont know what you want me to say? & it was not FBI.. & you'd be surprised at who cares who post here..
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Jenkins
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Desenrascanco wrote: <quoted text>
You can argue all you like sir..
Let me make this a little more clear..
1. I was contacted by a northerner, an LE. Dont believe me, call them for yourself..
2. I talked to LE in my own town - Out Of My own accord!
3. Some northerner called my boss cursing on voicemail, he just said "leave it alone" & if you dont mind "stop posting curses & arguing" - Didnt "whip me" or anything.. Just asked me to play nice..
4. What with you & the FBI?? I never talked to them..
5. The LE officer I spoke with from up north was about Videos, if you want to know so bad call the 603 number, & ask them..
I NEVER said that I was scared to post, Never said that they told me NOT to post, I said it was "their personal two cents" to just leave it alone cus honestly I attracted the wrong kind of attention..
Thats all I am going to say on this subject, if you dont believe me I DONT CARE!! Get over yourself & the FBI theory..
I DONT CARE TO ARGUE OVER SOMETHING STUPID.. If you could read, I said - I dont have to quit posting, I WANT TO! I answered a couple questions.. Its not like I said LE, or as your saying The FBI (Christ sakes, read the darn post man)- Spoke to me! I dont care of you believe it.. I told people on this board who it was & what they said.. & They didnt tell me to leave, they just said "leave it alone" which I guess your not understanding.. Leave the arguing alone about the videos!
God Almighty.. where are the people I told this mans name to.. & why in the world anyone would lie about talking to LE over some videos is beyond me..
Ohh did I mention it wasnt THE FBI!! Good Grief Dude Ok
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hannah_b
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Desenrascanco wrote: again It was about videos sir.. I dont know how to be any clearer.. I wanted my name off those videos!!
It had nothing to do with Topix.. I dont know what you want me to say?
& it was not FBI.. & you'd be surprised at who cares who post here.. Who posts here??? and how do you know???
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“Tha Gooch”
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Ok Thank You Sir.. Can we move on now? I talk different than you northerners & you know this.. I tried my best to explain it.. It was simply about those videos that had my name in them.. thats it. I was not threatend or anything sir.. Your right, why would they car about me? They just asked why I said what I said.. I hope this cleared up because I actually liked reading your theories & never jumped on you that I know of.. If there is anything else you would like to ask. I will 2moro when you calm down a little.. I dont want to argue.. can we get back to the subject matter? & your right, I agree, the FBI wouldnt care at all about Topix! You seen the videos, some of the things said by both parties were wrong. It was a simple question I was asked. I went to my local LE to ask to have my name removed.. Im asking you sir, can we move on?
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Who posts here??? and how do you know??? everyone of us that want to discuss the topic!! Thats what I am saying.. I thought fridays was the night everyone jumped on me, lol..
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