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Well, gotta go. Guess jwb doesn't want to meet me in a public place with other people there for safety. Or maybe she/he is having trouble getting to Woodstock/Lincoln in time. The silence is deafening and it's not coming from over the mountain.

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Snowy wrote:
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two wrongs never make a right.
standing up is good and right.
the original MMM forum was a runaway train, and the shift to other forums did not improve the ride.
a decent, civil tone, or heartfelt comments with an appeal to beneficial intervention were all ignored. it was, and still is, a war of beliefs without the benefit of factual information.
in terms of relationships, there is a point where the line becomes blurred; when the tide becomes a tsunami, and each individual balances his/her experiences against responses.
I understand. What I meant to say was speculating about a specific person's private life on a public forum, whether or not that person's private life is related to a possible crime, would be a moral dilemma for me regardless of who started it.

I have made such mistakes in the past, mostly elsewhere online and unrelated to this case, and then owed profuse apologies. Related to MM, for example, I should not have speculated about Beagle. Hence my later apology to him. I felt terrible about it and still do.

People say "it's just the internet, none of this is real," but there are real people behind the screen names reading those words. The potential damage is unknown. I am also of a different generation, where as many as half of my "real life" friends are people I've first met on the internet. So you are all real to me. That said, other peoples' relationships with each other are none of my business. I am not sure what you meant by that last part.

Sorry for rambling. I just want you to know where I'm coming from on why I won't speculate further on Mr. Murray or anyone else. I'm too tired to edit this down to anything that might make sense, but hopefully you get the gist. Probably best for a private message, but you don't have that enabled.

I hope Wowzer brings us back some coffee.:-)
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two wrongs never make a right.
standing up is good and right.

the original MMM forum was a runaway train, and the shift to other forums did not improve the ride.
a decent, civil tone, or heartfelt comments with an appeal to beneficial intervention were all ignored. it was, and still is, a war of beliefs without the benefit of factual information.

in terms of relationships, there is a point where the line becomes blurred; when the tide becomes a tsunami, and each individual balances his/her experiences against responsestwo wrongs never make a right.
standing up is good and right.

the original MMM forum was a runaway train, and the shift to other forums did not improve the ride.
a decent, civil tone, or heartfelt comments with an appeal to beneficial intervention were all ignored. it was, and still is, a war of beliefs without the benefit of factual information.

in terms of relationships, there is a point where the line becomes blurred; when the tide becomes a tsunami, and each individual balances his/her experiences against responses. Snowy "a decent, civil tone,or heartfelt comments with appeal to beneficial intervention were all ignored.it was and still is, a war of beliefs without the benefit of factual information." Snowy " citigirl you suck" Maybe you should practice what you preach.

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Hope everyone enjoyed lunch....

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According to interviews with EMS and FD, Officer Smith was not at the scene when they showed up. This would have been at 7:56 and 7:57.
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Why was Smith not at the scene when they showed up? Where did He go.?

How long was the car unattended at the location it was found after Smith showed up at 7:46.?

WHY did He leave the car unattended at the scene with NO WARNING to other drivers on the road that night.?

WHY after EMS and FD showed up did Smith and Monaghan show back up at the scene.?

Where had they both gone or did they meet up, how did they arrive back at the scene at the same time.?

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Remember Amy, there are two sides to every story.

I'm not going to get into specifics....yet.
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Det Columbo wrote:
According to interviews with EMS and FD, Officer Smith was not at the scene when they showed up. This would have been at 7:56 and 7:57.
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Why was Smith not at the scene when they showed up? Where did He go.?
How long was the car unattended at the location it was found after Smith showed up at 7:46.?
WHY did He leave the car unattended at the scene with NO WARNING to other drivers on the road that night.?
WHY after EMS and FD showed up did Smith and Monaghan show back up at the scene.?
Where had they both gone or did they meet up, how did they arrive back at the scene at the same time.?
John
John he may have been searching with SBD at the time?Or interviewing witnesses.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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He bought that house and moved to BHR only a couple of years ago.
Nowhere near the time of the accident.
He's been there at least 5 years----pulled me over on my ATV when I first got it
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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I may be heading over the mountain in a while. Would you be interested in meeting at a public place of your choice? DD's, McD's etc.Bet we'd have a lot to talk about.
what are you interested in talking about Wowzer? Just got back from Lunch in Columbos neck of the world.
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citigirl wrote:
two wrongs never make a right.
standing up is good and right.
the original MMM forum was a runaway train, and the shift to other forums did not improve the ride.
a decent, civil tone, or heartfelt comments with an appeal to beneficial intervention were all ignored. it was, and still is, a war of beliefs without the benefit of factual information.
in terms of relationships, there is a point where the line becomes blurred; when the tide becomes a tsunami, and each individual balances his/her experiences against responsestwo wrongs never make a right.
standing up is good and right.
the original MMM forum was a runaway train, and the shift to other forums did not improve the ride.
a decent, civil tone, or heartfelt comments with an appeal to beneficial intervention were all ignored. it was, and still is, a war of beliefs without the benefit of factual information.
in terms of relationships, there is a point where the line becomes blurred; when the tide becomes a tsunami, and each individual balances his/her experiences against responses. Snowy "a decent, civil tone,or heartfelt comments with appeal to beneficial intervention were all ignored.it was and still is, a war of beliefs without the benefit of factual information." Snowy " citigirl you suck" Maybe you should practice what you preach.
as should your conscience for witnessing the harm done to local NH residents in the name of MM.

once again, i have no patience for insipid, banal posts...especially after thoughtfully presenting ideas to you. done with that.

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John he may have been searching with SBD at the time?Or interviewing witnesses.
Was his car still there or did they both arrive with their cars? Do you know?

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jwb wrote:
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John he may have been searching with SBD at the time?Or interviewing witnesses.
According to NHSP, Monaghan had nothing to do with the case that night except for stopping by the scene.

Why was there arguing going on between Haverhill and NHSP over jurisdiction.?

According to reports Monaghan could not have been on his way to the suicide call at 9:20 when He saw RO.

Both EMS and Monaghan passed RO within a few minutes of each other.
EMS cleared the scene at 8:02 PM.

The BOL was put out at 7:54 PM so that makes sense that He and EMS would have seen RO around 8:05 or so heading west.

EMS back to the station and Monaghan unknown, Home maybe.?

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oops post was directed at detective columbo
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amy researches wrote:
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I understand. What I meant to say was speculating about a specific person's private life on a public forum, whether or not that person's private life is related to a possible crime, would be a moral dilemma for me regardless of who started it.
of course. "outing" has been a fun game for the PBB, as you saw with Beagle's circumstances.
again, the issue of FM is specific to an individual who has chosen to discuss the circumstances of his daughter's gone missing to the public.
his online representatives have intentionally caused distress to private citizens who have, otherwise, chosen to maintain their privacy and identities; again, in the name of MM, and off-topic, as well.

it was a certain, pointy individual who tortured a local poster into never returning to this conversation, by accusing her of seeking favors with the police to provide access to info and documents regarding MM.
a particularly memorable and disgusting reference was to excrement dripping from the sides of the poster's mouth.

one is still here; and one is gone.
the more vulgar of the two remains.

yes, i have an option for PM which i may engage....it's a pretty busy week. will catch up with you, amy, although the summary is fairly complete.

i don't follow other cases of missing persons as some do here, so i don't know what is the norm in terms of ugliness or the dynamics of group hostilities. it's surely something that's been in practice here.

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Detective columbo

Were they arguing that neither one wanted jurisdiction or the other way around?
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amy researches wrote:
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I understand. What I meant to say was speculating about a specific person's private life on a public forum, whether or not that person's private life is related to a possible crime, would be a moral dilemma for me regardless of who started it.
I have made such mistakes in the past, mostly elsewhere online and unrelated to this case, and then owed profuse apologies. Related to MM, for example, I should not have speculated about Beagle. Hence my later apology to him. I felt terrible about it and still do.
People say "it's just the internet, none of this is real," but there are real people behind the screen names reading those words. The potential damage is unknown. I am also of a different generation, where as many as half of my "real life" friends are people I've first met on the internet. So you are all real to me. That said, other peoples' relationships with each other are none of my business. I am not sure what you meant by that last part.
Sorry for rambling. I just want you to know where I'm coming from on why I won't speculate further on Mr. Murray or anyone else. I'm too tired to edit this down to anything that might make sense, but hopefully you get the gist. Probably best for a private message, but you don't have that enabled.
I hope Wowzer brings us back some coffee.:-)
it is strange, indeed, that while i have abided by the specific requests of several individuals to be discreet, they choose, directly or by their agents, to violate me.
their names remain at the tip of my tongue.

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it is strange, indeed, that while i have abided by the specific requests of several individuals to be discreet, they choose, directly or by their agents, to violate me.
their names remain at the tip of my tongue.
I'm sorry, I don't understand.

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Snowy wrote:
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of course. "outing" has been a fun game for the PBB, as you saw with Beagle's circumstances.
again, the issue of FM is specific to an individual who has chosen to discuss the circumstances of his daughter's gone missing to the public.
his online representatives have intentionally caused distress to private citizens who have, otherwise, chosen to maintain their privacy and identities; again, in the name of MM, and off-topic, as well.
it was a certain, pointy individual who tortured a local poster into never returning to this conversation, by accusing her of seeking favors with the police to provide access to info and documents regarding MM.
a particularly memorable and disgusting reference was to excrement dripping from the sides of the poster's mouth.
one is still here; and one is gone.
the more vulgar of the two remains.
yes, i have an option for PM which i may engage....it's a pretty busy week. will catch up with you, amy, although the summary is fairly complete.
i don't follow other cases of missing persons as some do here, so i don't know what is the norm in terms of ugliness or the dynamics of group hostilities. it's surely something that's been in practice here.
I have never seen anything quite like this.:-) To be continued on the rest...
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Was his car still there or did they both arrive with their cars? Do you know?
sorry I am not sure on that. It is such a short walk to BA house from the crash site. Good question! I don't remember anything regarding if he walked to BA house or drove over etc..

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looking4amoose wrote:
<quoted text>He's been there at least 5 years----pulled me over on my ATV when I first got it
Maybe he pulled you over but he didn't live on BHR 5 yrs ago.
His motorcycle accident happened I believe the first part of April 09. He purchased the house after his accident.
If you find any info that contradicts this LMK.

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