Maura Murray

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Bart S, Are you kidding? Maura's disappearance had nothing to do with something that happened several years later.

I was just doing more reading from Mr. Renners blog spot and this answers some of my questions here. OK?

"Since Fred Murray refuses to ever answer questions about what was going on in Maura's life prior to her disappearance, people are left to speculate on messageboards about just what sort of person Maura was and what life at home in Hanson was like. At this point, I am pretty convinced the answer to what happened to her lies in the puzzle of her past. And, after some effort, I'm beginning to see a little of what that life was like.

According to Maura's aunt, Janis Panttila, Fred Murray was always an "odd duck." Fred met Laurie, Maura's mother, when he was in college and Laurie was a 15 year-old high schooler. The parents didn't like him. But he was persistent. They married. Had four kids: Fred Jr., Kathleen, Julie, and Maura. Laurie had another child, Kurt, with a man named Kevin Noble. The marriage dissolved around this time and Fred moved back in with his parents while Laurie lived at the home in Hanson with the kids.

"My sister was an excellent mother...when the kids were little," says Janis, fighting back emotion. She doesn't like to speak ill of her sister but says as she got older, drinking became a problem. She never remarried. Neither did Fred. On May 4, 2009, Laurie died after a fight with cancer. It was Maura's birthday."

OK So this says that her mother had a drinking problem and that she was close to her Aunty Janis and maybe that is why she was looking for a Mum type with Sharon. Do you know if her real Mum sick for a long time before she died?

I am still looking for Kurtis poem. Does anyone have it? I remember he wrote it about Maura.

Frostman wrote:

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Has my cover been blown again? It was truly worth it; the martinis were absolutely spectacular. I had the Gumshoe Gimlet. Outstanding.

HehHehHeh, What's u[p Doc?

I keep thinking she really wanted to get away from everyone because someone must have been b othering her in her life. Maybe someone had control over her.Everything was packed up to get out of there and probably never come back. If she really was preggers maybe she was raped? I'm just thinking that for the first time.

Bart S wrote:

I keep thinking she really wanted to get away from everyone because someone must have been b othering her in her life. Maybe someone had control over her.Everything was packed up to get out of there and probably never come back. If she really was preggers maybe she was raped? I'm just thinking that for the first time.

Hey Bart S aka WhiteNoise... keep on spinning. Just remember, NH CCU has your IP address.

"PI Frosty"

What? I am asking some questions. If you don't like it I'm sorry about that. Everybody that comes on here new gets chased away every time. Now I get it. If you can please answer some of my questions that would help. Thank you.

Ok columbo so your saying u know the identity of her new bf and that he was most likely the driver of the red truck, right?
But why do u think it was a temp plate?
Seems to me like it's pretty easy to tell a temp plate that's made from paper from a regular license plate. RO never said anything about it maybe bein a temp plate that I remember.
I wonder why some people think the red truck is such a red herring. I just don't see how it can b written off so easily, theyve never identified him and he was clearly acting weird in the same area at the same time Maura was there and was definitely looking for someone as well, which just can't be overlooked can it?

Im not sure obviously but it does seem like there was another witness in addition to RO that told the cops that nite about the truck. Those 3 red trucks pulled over late night make it appear that way. Idk I guess it could be a coincidence but It doesn't seem so, looking at the logs.

I would speculate that NH CCU doesn't monitor this board. Sure, if something is brought to their attention, and it's important - they'd investigate.
I'd wager that hasn't occurred here @ Topix.

Doesn't appear that they've put much investigation into the whole Mr112Dirtbag / DetDirtbag YouTube and blogspot - which (although IMO a red herring) would appear more of a threat, at least at first glance.

Bart S wrote:

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Yeah I wonder if he can the scoop on how many times she been arrested maybe? Does anybody think she got arrested at West point too? Think about it this just didn't start to happen one day. That girl looks really mad in the arrest picture.

Yea she's pissed! I don't think sue got arrested at wp but she did have an honor code violations, most likely very similar to the one at UMass. I wonder why she wasnt suspended from UMass for that. Generally in college if u get arrested kn campus or off and the college knows about it u get suspended for a semester. Was Maura actually suspended from school and she didn't tell her family and friends? Did she not know? I've seen kids come back to school for like a week, not knowing they got suspended bc they were arrested the previous semester, get about a week into school until somebody notices and informs them theyre suspended for the semester.
Could this have been what happened to Maura?
Was she so wicked embarrassed that she ran away?

Simply Sarcasm wrote:

I would speculate that NH CCU doesn't monitor this board. Sure, if something is brought to their attention, and it's important - they'd investigate.
I'd wager that hasn't occurred here @ Topix.
Doesn't appear that they've put much investigation into the whole Mr112Dirtbag / DetDirtbag YouTube and blogspot - which (although IMO a red herring) would appear more of a threat, at least at first glance.

Thank you, Sir. I don't mean to say anything wrong but I want a chance to ask some questions I am thinking about and they are not unfair. I am not threatening no one but that was a ugly thing to say to me.

I still don't understand how LE could write the videos off as a cruel hoax in 1 day.
How could they possibly know that so quick?

Bart S wrote:

What? I am asking some questions. If you don't like it I'm sorry about that. Everybody that comes on here new gets chased away every time. Now I get it. If you can please answer some of my questions that would help. Thank you.

What questions? You appear to have all the answers. And nobody has the power to chase anybody away.

It seems that no one (except a few) really wants to read anyone else's posts and have a dialogue. As an experiment, I posted some of the information from Helena's old forum (#2) as Fireweed and all anyone was interested in was whether or not I was FC.

PI Frosty

PS Fireweed has retired and has gone back to stacking wood.

Frostman wrote:

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What questions? You appear to have all the answers. And nobody has the power to chase anybody away.
It seems that no one (except a few) really wants to read anyone else's posts and have a dialogue. As an experiment, I posted some of the information from Helena's old forum (#2) as Fireweed and all anyone was interested in was whether or not I was FC.
PI Frosty
PS Fireweed has retired and has gone back to stacking wood.

I don't know you and I don't come here to fight. I guess you don't read other posts either.

Jenkins wrote:

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Yea she's pissed! I don't think sue got arrested at wp but she did have an honor code violations, most likely very similar to the one at UMass. I wonder why she wasnt suspended from UMass for that. Generally in college if u get arrested kn campus or off and the college knows about it u get suspended for a semester. Was Maura actually suspended from school and she didn't tell her family and friends? Did she not know? I've seen kids come back to school for like a week, not knowing they got suspended bc they were arrested the previous semester, get about a week into school until somebody notices and informs them theyre suspended for the semester.
Could this have been what happened to Maura?
Was she so wicked embarrassed that she ran away?

She looks much older in that picture. She probably didn't tell her family and friends like you say but something was probably coming down on her.

Bart S wrote:

<quoted text> I don't know you and I don't come here to fight. I guess you don't read other posts either.

It appears that you came here to malign without any prior knowledge or evidence.

Jenkins wrote:

Ok columbo so your saying u know the identity of her new bf and that he was most likely the driver of the red truck, right?
But why do u think it was a temp plate?
Seems to me like it's pretty easy to tell a temp plate that's made from paper from a regular license plate. RO never said anything about it maybe bein a temp plate that I remember.
I wonder why some people think the red truck is such a red herring. I just don't see how it can b written off so easily, theyve never identified him and he was clearly acting weird in the same area at the same time Maura was there and was definitely looking for someone as well, which just can't be overlooked can it?
Im not sure obviously but it does seem like there was another witness in addition to RO that told the cops that nite about the truck. Those 3 red trucks pulled over late night make it appear that way. Idk I guess it could be a coincidence but It doesn't seem so, looking at the logs.

NO...I am not saying it was Her boyfriend at all.

I believe The red truck at the store was involved in some way.

It does seem as though they possibly knew about the red truck before RO gave them the info.
John

Frostman wrote:

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It appears that you came here to malign without any prior knowledge or evidence.

Malign? Stay cool buddy.

Bart S wrote:

<quoted text> Malign? Stay cool buddy.

I'm not here to spar either, although I frequently feel as if I'm the perpetual point guard... albeit, self-appointed. Apologies, if we got off on the wrong foot.

Given your research, what do you think happened to Maura Murray and where might she be today?

Frostman wrote:

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I'm not here to spar either, although I frequently feel as if I'm the perpetual point guard... albeit, self-appointed. Apologies, if we got off on the wrong foot.
Given your research, what do you think happened to Maura Murray and where might she be today?

I think she was running away from someone she was afraid of and I don't know who because most women are hurt by the men closest to them and many are hurt when they are pregnant. So I don't know really. She probably was depressed because she was a great student and she was having trouble staying in school because of the credit card trouble. If she was just running away I don't think it would be for 8 yaers. No one can say for sure that someone is goning to commit suicide. If someone hurt her I think they knew her and it just wasn't some random thing.

Maybe Maura placed the gear in neutral to prevent the auto lock from unlocking all her doors. All the doors may have unlocked if the gear shift was placed in the park position.(If Maura's Saturn was equipped with this feature).