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jwb wrote:

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if she said no, I would say ok
if she said yes, I would ask what did you see ?
when she says nothing, I ask again
thats how I roll

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amy researches wrote:

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Good point. I didn't think of that.

FrmLE wrote:

anyone who thinks Fred knew or knows what ahppened to his daughter is insane. The extent that ma went to make our lives miserable, the pain he felt and must still feel, is completely real and impossible to fake.
Trust me on this, he had more information about Mauras background than he shared, but he was not responsible for what hapepned to her nor does he know what happened to her.
Put that out of your minds, its absurd.

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SnowyB wrote:

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you know what's OK?
that she chooses whether or not to answer you; she is not accountable to you.
it is obnoxious to harass another long-time poster in the name of MM.
i wouldn't want to know you, either.
as Seuss would say....not here, not there, not anywhere.

JWB wrote:

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She was not pressed about her address . She has made it known that she lived in the vacinity of the crash . What I did press her on was did she see the accident from her house. A simple yes or no response would have been adequate .

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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So can we make a speculation that this money was given to her? Is anyone saying this is possible? 4k was given to her for what we don't know but there is a chance money was given to her. All in favor of saying this is possible please chime in.

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SnowyB wrote:

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you know what's OK?
that she chooses whether or not to answer you; she is not accountable to you.
it is obnoxious to harass another long-time poster in the name of MM.
i wouldn't want to know you, either.
as Seuss would say....not here, not there, not anywhere.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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You were pushing hard, but lets move on. What do you think about the $4000? Posible.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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If she actually did live near the accident scene. I hope she doesn't complain to the police because I'm sure the police wouldn't mind shutting down the forum where every other post is pretty much bashing them.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I was the one confused I thought Detective Columbo was talking about the Maura case. I was so confused I thought it was a code.

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amy researches wrote:

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What makes you think so? I can't think of a single good reason why anyone would go to that much trouble.

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Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Hi Amy, just checked in here and saw your question. I believe it is a possibility that she had a prior mishap in Woodsville and that would be why it was staged. I wrack my brain as I was listening to the scanner for an inordinate lengthy time. Even as I listened to the scanner a few years later when a NH LE was killed, THAT call was far shorter than the night Maura disappeared. Of course, I had learned a lot from EVER posting so I wrote down times and names in that incident. I am sure this is why RO has never come back to post. She still lives in the area and I suspect she follows occasionally. A couple problems are that she came forth to the public in 2006 search and CW came forth a few months following the initial incident. From day 1 to day 3, EVERYTHING changed. Cooperation with LE went into sides that still exist today. Who is protecting who becomes the focus.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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And this is what I think gets misinterpreted. Just because someone saw the red truck, because it stood out, TO THEM. RO's interpretation can be honest, but not accurate. And just like any good police agency, they were forced to investigate it. This is a form of self fulfilling prophecy. Some are using the fact that the police investigated the "red truck" as proof that it has something to do with Maura's disappearance when in fact, the only reason that the red truck was looked at was because someone reported it to police because for them, it stood out, with nothing more to show it has any involvement, at all. Just place and time. Useful to initially include people but not proof of anything.
It's called a "lead" in police parlance. Doesn't mean that she didn't run off into the woods. Doesn't mean that the new love of her life driving around in a nondescript Ford POS didn't pick her up and whisk her away to a new life. It is just that no one noticed the Ford so the police don't know about it and they never investigated it and you have never heard of it either.
Personally, given the level of investigation of the "red truck" I would think the police would be talking a lot more about it, if they thought that lead would go somewhere. Their total lack of interest in that conveyance at this point, makes me believe that they figured out who it might have been and no longer consider it important - maybe. They don't tell me in on what they are thinking.
Bill

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amy researches wrote:

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The CW sighting is not all that credible to me because of how it went down. He waited a long time to come forward, despite being questioned earlier on, and had an odd story about believing he was working that night but had the dates mixed up. Even then, he could not be sure that it was Maura he saw - just that he saw someone.
If others had seen her 5 miles east, or if he had reported it right away, I would feel differently.
I believe anything is possible, but I don't automatically believe she ran east just because this guy says so.
I think a good question would be why would she run east?
If she is running for help, there are houses nearby and a store she just passed.

If she was going to take a ride, why run 5 miles east to do it? Surely many other cars passed her before she got to this point?
Maybe she was not thinking clearly, and ran off that way out of an emotional impulse? If she did run east, and made it 5 or more miles, I would believe the most likely possibility then is hypothermia - and that she made it to a place in the woods that hasn't been searched yet. Under the circumstances. She was already shaken up when the bus driver saw her, she was already stressed, an unknown amount of alcohol in her system, probable lack of sleep from her busy schedule and the stressful events of the past few days, who knows when she ate last, she was already emotional about her previous accident and letting her dad down... If she made it 5 miles, could she have made it 10 miles before entering the woods? How far did they search? We just don't know.

amy researches wrote:

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I believe what you said about what you heard on the scanner. I would believe a first accident happening is possible. I don't get how that would mean the (second?) accident was staged though? Between the first accident and the staging, they had time to find a Maura-look-alike?

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Bill, Just a bit of FYI, no one was interested in RO's red truck initially, not LE anyway, that is why she took so long to post, imho.

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Exactly. It was still Maura who was seen at the car, near the corner. Unless, of course, you by into the Maura lookalike theory.
Bill
I don't by the way, believe in the Maura lookalike theory.

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anonymousone wrote:

Maura was a CLASS 1 runner. For a time she was thought to be the best runner in Massachusetts during high school. If she headed east on Route 112 she potentially could have easily have made it anywhere from 5-15 miles from the accident by dawn. This would fit exactly with Rick Forcier's sighting and explain why no evidence was found of Maura near the accident. What if the search should have actually been conducted at the 112/116 intersection? Very little (if anything) has been searched this far east of the accident scene even though this is likely where she headed. Due to the number of houses in the area it is clear Maura did not want any help because of the potential DWI. I think another search needs to be done on the east side.

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amy researches wrote:

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You don't??????????
But this was said by a REAL PI!
Come on, twonker, get with it.
LOL