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Just me--paris wrote:
<quoted text>Hey now. All anyone ever had to do was ask for permission. There is a law against going through private property for your own means. Even to retreive a ball would apply. Stay off other peoples land and yards, or go to the door and explain what you need and why. Ask if it's ok. If we didn't have that much to say about our property, people could start showing up looking in your windows, etc, and there'd be nothing in place to stop them.
I don't see anything wrong with expecting privacy on your own turf.
I agree with respecting people and their property. Absolutely.

It's just that the details and timing surrounding this alleged trespassing travesty seem to change with the weather. In addition that particular poster has stated that she (or he) doesn't care what happened to Maura Murray, so that leads me to question their purpose in being on this forum in the first place. It's a reflection of their objectivity in my estimation and it seems that it's just another transparent attempt to blame the victim and her family.

Apparently there was a conversation with the searchers. If it had been my wee patch of God's green earth, I would have offered to help. And I would have put my dog in the crate before I assisted them.

The bottom line, for me, is that I just don't believe the story in its entirety.
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Wait who's property got vandalized? No ones
Gotta name nes and addresses but what happened? A searcher actially vandalized someone's property?? I've never heard that.
I know that there was some people crying about someone walking thought their yard but that's hardly vandalism. I've always thought and experienced the people of Nh as good neighbors, wicked nice to each other. If you lose your dog nobody ever gets angry if you walk through their yard looking for it, even if u have to walk through several times. I recognize this is a little different but isn't a person more important and possibly warrant a little extra leeway for maybe some other people that r helping look later on can still walk through your yard.
As far as I know it isn't even tresspaasing technically in Nh. Nh has these current use land which makes pretty much all land in Nh public property for lack of a better term. In order to legally put up no trespassing signs & not allow people to walk through your property you need to put your land into current use(or take it out, can't remember exactly, it was like 6 yrs ago when my friend & I had to do this for his house).
When u do this u have to give them a reason & u have to pay much higher property taxes on your land, the extra taxes actually prevented my friend from going through with this.
The only damage I've ever heard of was to someones(snowy's?) glass sliding door. As I understand it their dog went through the door?? I'm sorry but that is not the fault of the searcher that is clearly bad dog training plain & simple. Im sorry but no matter what is happening outside a dog is never supposed to go through your door. Up until last year when she died I had a 110lb Doberman & right now I have a rather large German shepherd & trust me those dogs will NEVER freak out so bad they go through a glass door. It just so happened to be a searcher who the dog was chasing but it could have been anybody walking through the yard. A dog can't tell the difference between someone searching for maura & someone searching for their dog. I'm sorry but if your dog gets crazy enif to go through a glass door it needs some serious training
So where exactly is all this vandalism? Someone walking throug a yard and maybe taking a peak in a shed is not vandalism. I suspect using the term vandalism is an exadderation bc if any searcher deliberately vandalized something I'm sure we would have heard about it.
Trespassing on someone's land has nothing to do with current use. If someone is on your land without permission you can order them off. If they don't leave they can and will be arrested.
Section 635:2 of the New Hampshire Criminal Code defines criminal trespass as a crime when a person knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so enters or remains in any place.

Essentially, criminal trespassing means being on the property of someone else when you aren't supposed to be.


How Do I Know I am Trespassing?


Most statutes require you to obtain some sort of consent before entering a property. Obviously, places like retail stores have a standing consent. You are typically free to enter unless they tell you to leave. Private houses and yards are a different matter, however. You can be considered trespassing if you are entering someone's yard without their consent.

Most people will not be charged with criminal trespassing for merely entering someone's yard as long as they leave when they are told. If you have been asked to leave a property or have been told never to come back, that constitutes notice. Remaining on a property or reentering a property after you have been given notice to leave will invariably get you cited for criminal trespassing if the property owners call the police.

Notice can be given in a variety of ways. The property owners can give notice, a law-enforcement officer can give notice and signage such as "No Trespassing" signs can constitute notice.

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<quoted text>I actually didn't see that one. ID had a show on the CT valley killer. That was very interesting they think because the deaths stopped he either went to jail or died. You know what is more upsetting we are finding out more info about the titanic and passengers now then we are about Maura Murray. After 100 years more info comes in than what does about Maura.
To the best of my knowledge, it has never been stated that anyone was able to vouch for the whereabouts of Michael Nicholaou on February 9, 2004. Mr. Renner is under the impression that Nicholaou could not have been involved in Maura's disappearance but if anyone has any independent, third party information please feel free to pass it along.

I realize that he (Nicholaou) was living in Georgia at the time but he apparently still had relatives and contacts in New England, and was undaunted by lengthy road trips...
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To the best of my knowledge, it has never been stated that anyone was able to vouch for the whereabouts of Michael Nicholaou on February 9, 2004. Mr. Renner is under the impression that Nicholaou could not have been involved in Maura's disappearance but if anyone has any independent, third party information please feel free to pass it along.
I realize that he (Nicholaou) was living in Georgia at the time but he apparently still had relatives and contacts in New England, and was undaunted by lengthy road trips...
In my opinion Nicholau's step daughter Terrin Bowman looked like Maura.

It would be quite a surprise if the Danby skull turned out to be Michelle Nicholau.

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People are afraid of you, JWB, and they back down to you because you give off bad vibes like Emmett did and Jenkins does. It's the tough guy shit routine.
Bart, buddy. No need to sweat internet tough guys, or girls. They have never worried me. Doesn't change what I think, or what I say, or how I say it. I have never threatened anyone on the internet. After three years in the infantry, I have learned to abhor violence, but I also had become incredibly effective at it.

So bottom line is don't worry about chest thumpers on the internet. There is nothing funnier or sillier than an internet tough guy.

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It would be quite a surprise if the Danby skull turned out to be Michelle Nicholau.
Makes me wonder what the police are doing in that case. Are they not able to identify who it was because they can't figure it out? I doubt that, so the alternative is that they have figured it out, and they are doing lots of leg work following up on leads and are crossing the t's and dotting the i's. Interested is seeing what they come up with.

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WTH the most interesting man in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Bart, buddy. No need to sweat internet tough guys, or girls. They have never worried me. Doesn't change what I think, or what I say, or how I say it. I have never threatened anyone on the internet. After three years in the infantry, I have learned to abhor violence, but I also had become incredibly effective at it.
So bottom line is don't worry about chest thumpers on the internet. There is nothing funnier or sillier than an internet tough guy.
Bill
Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Ryan_...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Megan...

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500202_162-634307...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/09/us-...

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& wtf is up with this asshole beagle? It's blatantly obvious that Bart s, detective shtick and all these posts during the last 24 hrs made by beagle talking to himself.
Is this guy just insane or what? Why is je so
Obsessed with topix Franconia that he made a YouTube about everyone on here
Is it possible this guy had anything to do w maura's dissapearance? I find it unlikely
But I'm not exactly sure why it's so unlikely.
This guy is clearly unstable mentally, like seriously. He definitely has something wrong in the head, his obsession with Maura and her case is fucked up.
I find it interesting he was never on any forums until a few yrs ago, & then suddenly he's all over making crazy statements, the kind of statements that only someone who isn't all there would say.
Is it possible he actually abducted her?
He's from western Mass, same exact area Maura was living. Not entirely impossible that he had some sort of contact w maura before.
He's clearly interested in trying to torment the family, this is the kinda shit that only someone who is sick in the head would do.
Is he disappointed that he's never gotten credit for his crime? Is he possibly a serial killer? Or is he just mentally retarded and insane?
What's up with this guy?
Who's the other guy in his videos? The guy dressed as a construction worker, who's that his partner in crime? R they a kill team?
Has anybody looked into this guy for real? Anyone know if LE has? He certainly deserves a serious looking at, or at least to get the shit kicked out of him.
For the videos he's posted I've never seen anyone deserve a bigger ass-beating.
At the very least this guy is a piece of shit who likes to taunt families of missing girls, so he clearly has no conscience.
Someone like that yur not Gonna make him feel bad by anything u write so that's why I suggest multiple beatings is what he deserves. Not saying I'm gonna do that(as much as I want to), but that's clearly what he deserves. Some pain to match what he dishes out.
Anyone who comes online and talks to himself for a day, saying weird incoherent statements is just a straight weirdo.
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If you break down in your automobile on Route 112 near Weathered Barn Corner and call AAA for assistance, who would they send out? Are there specific AAA associated or contracted towing companies in that area?

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jwb wrote:
WTH the most interesting man in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
That's not me.

I shaved my beard off.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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No need to sweat internet tough guys, or girls. They have never worried me. Doesn't change what I think, or what I say, or how I say it. I have never threatened anyone on the internet. After three years in the infantry, I have learned to abhor violence, but I also had become incredibly effective at it.
So bottom line is don't worry about chest thumpers on the internet. There is nothing funnier or sillier than an internet tough guy.
There is a fine line here, Bill. Things change when the 'internet tough guys' put your 'real life' safety in jeopardy.

Posting someone's picture or real name or any other private identifiable info on a public forum puts that person's real life in danger. There is no excuse for that behavior, none.

None of us knows how many crazy people with nothing better to do than stalk people in 'real life' read this forum. What if it's not even the right name, or the right person's photo? Does that matter at all, or is it justifiable to put random people in danger just because a few posters don't care enough about Maura?
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That's not me.
I shaved my beard off.
Bill
lol All in fun Bill, I love those commercials

stay thirsty my friend

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Like people haven't been bullied since the beginning of time. The fact that most of the bullies are far more damaged then the bullied should make you feel better. We have become very touchy feely. And you have no idea whether those people would have committed suicide with or without bullying at some later point because of their low self esteem. Want to know what fixes bullying? Sudden violence to the bullier, corrects the problem. The bullied then knows that he doesn't have to take. He learns the bully is a coward. He learns that he can stand up for himself, not hide behind the rest of the village. He doesn't need the village to make him whole.

Bullying sucks, I have stopped it when I have seen it, but people should be empowering the bullied to fend for themselves. Instead we are employing the village bullshit principle. That just means they are now silent victims. They get to suffer when they are out of sight because they know, without others, they can't take care of themselves. It makes you feel better, but really doesn't do a thing to help the bullied.

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There is a fine line here, Bill. Things change when the 'internet tough guys' put your 'real life' safety in jeopardy.
Posting someone's picture or real name or any other private identifiable info on a public forum puts that person's real life in danger. There is no excuse for that behavior, none.
None of us knows how many crazy people with nothing better to do than stalk people in 'real life' read this forum. What if it's not even the right name, or the right person's photo? Does that matter at all, or is it justifiable to put random people in danger just because a few posters don't care enough about Maura?
No it doesn't. I agree that no one, should under any circumstances have their names outed on a public forum. And I would use any tools at my disposal to find someone who did that to me. Fortunately for me, I know some very savvy people involved in IT and network ID to help find those people. I would also consider a P.I., real ones who specialize in this type of work to find out who it was. Action could be taken from there. If the threat is legitimate and serious enough, police action can and should be used.

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I don't understand, who exactly r u guys saying r bullying people?
What r u guys talking about?
The only bullying I ever c take place on topix is by people like frmLE & WTH/bill.
These guys don't want any discussion unless it entails saying she was drunk and got lost in the woods.
Go back & read the thread.
These guys systematically make fun of people, calling them stupid, morons and things like that not worrying whether the person is actually right or wrong.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone call other people stupid as mich as bill has, except maybe frmLE.
These guys have run all the regular posters off and now all we have left is these guys
So now you guys r deciding to pretend that your the ones being bullied?
Just go back a page and read bills comments on shack.
He has some sort of weird fantasy that she has done all this damage to the locals which is ridiculous.
Nobody has ever shown any damage done by an posts on this site, nothing even close.

Now there's even a fantasy about people vandalizing property, which has never happened.
Sorry but somebody's untrained dog going throug a window is not vandalism, that's bad dog training. What would've happened if a little kid walked through the yard? A dog doesn't know of someone is a searcher or not so how is that anything except bad dog training.

These people posting in the last few days r finally getting what they want, they've run off all the people who just wanna make comments and theories about what happened to Maura. Now They get to pretend she was just a drunk who got lost in the woods.

These guys r bullies plain and simple, anybody can see this except for them, but then again these guys live in a weeks fantasy world where topix is everything and anything said on here deeply effecting the real world.
None of them has ever been able to show ANY damage, real damage, to any of the locals or their property. Didn't happen, completely made up in their heads.
Sorry guys topix isn't real, it's just a few people talking about a case, sorry to break it to u.
But this is exactly what they want, they want to start a fight and discourage people from talkin about maura's case
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Phoebe Prince wrote:
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You want the last dance?
Whoever wrote this is a disgusting piece of shit, straight up.
Wow, you guys r really showing your true colors now, huh?
Wow, just wow

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Whatthehell wrote:
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Whoever wrote this is a disgusting piece of shit, straight up.
Wow, you guys r really showing your true colors now, huh?
Wow, just wow
Jenkins wrote:
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These guys r bullies plain and simple, anybody can see this except for them,
Jenkins wrote:
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This guy is clearly unstable mentally...
He certainly deserves... to get the shit kicked out of him...
I've never seen anyone deserve a bigger ass-beating...
I suggest multiple beatings is what he deserves...
that's clearly what he deserves. Some pain...
C'mon. Just something to remember you by?
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I don't understand, who exactly r u guys saying r bullying people?
What r u guys talking about?.....
Now there's even a fantasy about people vandalizing property, which has never happened....
Yes it has. Someone vandalized Beagle's property shortly after he went to the UMass campus to ask a simple question about what lot would have been used by MM to park her car, based on the type of campus parking sticker she had. This was a couple of years ago, apparently before your time on this discussion, but just because you didn't happen to know about it doesn't mean that many of us don't know what we are talking about.
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WTH-the-original wrote:
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Like people haven't been bullied since the beginning of time. The fact that most of the bullies are far more damaged then the bullied should make you feel better. We have become very touchy feely. And you have no idea whether those people would have committed suicide with or without bullying at some later point because of their low self esteem. Want to know what fixes bullying? Sudden violence to the bullier, corrects the problem. The bullied then knows that he doesn't have to take. He learns the bully is a coward. He learns that he can stand up for himself, not hide behind the rest of the village. He doesn't need the village to make him whole.

Bullying sucks, I have stopped it when I have seen it, but people should be empowering the bullied to fend for themselves. Instead we are employing the village bullshit principle. That just means they are now silent victims. They get to suffer when they are out of sight because they know, without others, they can't take care of themselves. It makes you feel better, but really doesn't do a thing to help the bullied.
The fact that most of the bullies are far more damaged than the bullied doesn't make me feel better. Bullies target people they think are vulnerable. Vulnerable people, by definition, aren't in the best position to defend themselves. Empowerment is good, but sometimes it takes a village to fight back. Victims remain silent often times with good reason, for their own protection. If we don't at least try to stand up and speak on their behalves, but choose rather to sit idly by and watch, how are we any better than the bullies?

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