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WTH-the-original wrote:
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By the way. Glad to see you back.
Bill
Thank you, very much.
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Monday, February 16, 2004
Time unknown - Fred urges New Hampshire State Police Troop F to invite
the FBI into the case. Fred has been told that the only way the FBI
can get involved in the case is if they are invited by the agency
currently overseeing the investigation. Fred later learns that the
only FBI involvement in the case was in the form of interviewing some
of Maura's friends and family from Massachusetts.
http://www.citizendia.org/Maura_Murray

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Seems fair to say, then, that the FBI adheres to standards and protocols, that the NHSP believe they have all the resources required to work the case, and the father disputes their decision. Her status, after all, is listed by the NH DOJ as "Missing Person".

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SnowyB wrote:
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Thank you, very much.
Oh god snowy. There are three or four people who are throwing peanuts at us. HOW WILL WE SURVIVE????

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Let me clear this up for anyone who cares to listen. The FBI has been involved since the very beginning of this case, they have NEVER been uninvited, they have contributed resources to the effort and will likely continue to do so if asked.

Anything other than what I just said is complete and utter bullshit.

You can post all the anonymous links about what someone said to someone about how the FBI needs to be invited, it is just absolutely crap.

If anyone had any idea about how these things really happen, behind the scenes, they would realize how absurd and ridiculous the idea is.

You all make me laugh, I love this place. Ship of retarded fools.

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Your sucking all the fun out of this for the fucktard detective wannabeez and faux intellectualz. lololol Can we get these dumbasses a job please, any job will do.
Don't worry. People like that never "learn" anything. No matter who tells them and what the credentials are. They will continue on, providing hours of fantasy filled entertainment for those that pop in to read. Remember, these people only have very limited life experiences and likely little education. It's hard to draw on experience, when like these people, they have none except sitting in front of a keyboard. Same with education. I assume if they actually attended college they took courses like shell collecting I and II and underwater basket-weaving because I would find it hard to believe any self respecting college would give a degree to people with thinking as muddled as theirs.

So in short, kick back, relax, enjoy the insanity and feel the breeze....

Bill

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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Oh god snowy. There are three or four people who are throwing peanuts at us. HOW WILL WE SURVIVE????
Bill
We must duck :)
I think of Bush dodging the shoes....stay agile.
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WTH-the-original wrote:
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Don't worry. People like that never "learn" anything. No matter who tells them and what the credentials are. They will continue on, providing hours of fantasy filled entertainment for those that pop in to read. Remember, these people only have very limited life experiences and likely little education. It's hard to draw on experience, when like these people, they have none except sitting in front of a keyboard. Same with education. I assume if they actually attended college they took courses like shell collecting I and II and underwater basket-weaving because I would find it hard to believe any self respecting college would give a degree to people with thinking as muddled as theirs.
So in short, kick back, relax, enjoy the insanity and feel the breeze....
Bill
I'm not baked enough for this bullshit but give me a couple hours, another round or ten and I'll blow back through. Stay thirsty man and hit the crack rock if you got it. Here to learn, funny as hell. LOLOLOL

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We must duck :)
I think of Bush dodging the shoes....stay agile.
..and thirsty. 8-)

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Right from the FBI Website

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs

"The FBI has special investigative jurisdiction to investigate violations of state law in limited circumstances, specifically felony killings of state law enforcement officers (28 U.S.C.§ 540), violent crimes against interstate travelers (28 U.S.C.§ 540A0, and serial killers (28 U.S.C.§540B). A request by an appropriate state official is required before the FBI has authority to investigate these matters."
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jwb wrote:
Right from the FBI Website
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs
"The FBI has special investigative jurisdiction to investigate violations of state law in limited circumstances, specifically felony killings of state law enforcement officers (28 U.S.C.§ 540), violent crimes against interstate travelers (28 U.S.C.§ 540A0, and serial killers (28 U.S.C.§540B). A request by an appropriate state official is required before the FBI has authority to investigate these matters."
Now now now jwb we can't go by what the FBI says or what the family says or whats in the media. Bunch of liars all those guys. The anon cop has got this. She's in the woods. He knows so it must be true! Bow before him or be called a vomit swallower.

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SnowyB wrote:
that the NHSP believe they have all the resources required to work the case
Absolutely. What these people don't get is that the FBI only uses it's fairy dust and magic wands on important people. Not drunk college runaways. You would need to be at least a senators daughter at least, and not a state senator a federal senator.

Christ, they act like that fairy dust grows on trees.

The concept that NHSP doesn't have the resources needed to handle this case to date is to put it plainly, retarded. And if they need the help, I have no doubt they would request it.

Since the FBI has been viewing this case since the beginning and they haven't seen any of the "red flags" it kind of makes one wonder if there are any red flags since everyone knows how thorough the FBI is. Could it be that the people claiming "red flags" are full of shit? Just wondering.

And also don't forget that according to FrmLE, the FBI has jurisdiction basically anywhere they want. If they thought it rose to the level that they had to be involved in a larger capacity, they don't need anyone's permission. And personally, by listening to him, I believe he is who he says. Others who have never been outside doing anything of consequence, may not.

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Frmle- Thinks you needed a passport to get in canada in 2004.

FRMLE- Thinks the FBI has Jurisdiction over everything including local and state LE.

Buddy, your ship is taking on water fast
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I think FRMLE is post holing in bullshit

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jwb wrote:
FRMLE- Thinks the FBI has Jurisdiction over everything including local and state LE.
I don't ever remember him saying that. Please pull that post up for everyone to see.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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I don't ever remember him saying that. Please pull that post up for everyone to see.
Bill
maybe you should read more and post less
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FrmLE wrote:
I will agree with Jenkins on one point, I believe that Maura probably had thoughts of running away, just get away from all of her problems.
I did this once when I was 8, got a change of clothes in my backpack, some snacks, got on my bike and rode down the road. It went well til I got a few miles away, realized I was tired and scared and missed my mom. Then I went back home.
My point is that although I agree Maura had visions of running away from her problems, the reality is much more complicated than just getting in your car with some wine and a couple hundred dollars and driving North.
It is much harder than you can imagine, to just disappear and start a new life. How far does $280 go? How can she get into Canada with no Passport? What is she driving? How can she check into a hotel without providing an ID and credit card?
How can she get a job without providing a Social security #? With no job, how does she eat? How does she pay for bus tickets? Where does she live? For 8 years?
Let's say she ran off with a Boyfriend, ok so what does he keep Maura in his basement? Does he keep her secret? She doesn't work, doesn't drive, lives off someone elses money, who keeps her a secret?
Is it believable that this insecure-ish young woman leaves her family, her father and mother, her sister, her friends, just disappears with no warning and in 8 plus years, she never misses them once? Never wonders about the Hell her Father is going through? Surely she googles her name, knows what her Family has gone through, and despite that she never makes contact?
Like I said before, I get the desire to disappear, but wanting to do it and doing it are 2 different things.
Of all possibilities, this is the absolute least likely, in my opinion.
here is the passport quote above:

"How can she get into Canada with no Passport?
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Bill are you in the same boat as FRMLE ? start bailing
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Unreal wrote:
Guess none of the anon cop's fake ID undercover drug busts took him to the Big C, Canada that is.
Whay the heck would I need to go into Canada? You kidding me right? Another Country? When did I say I was the friggin border patrol?

I put people in jail for selling drugs and killing children, I did not stand in a heated toll booth on the 'oh so dangerous' US/Canadian border checking passports of frenchies driving to Hampton Beach for Vacation.

I happen to hate Canada, btw.

Yeah, sure, good argument keep trying.

And when did I say the FBI had jurisdicaiton over everyone everywhere? Oh wait, let me guess, you are just lying and embellishing again to make the facts fit your skewed agenda, aren't you? You and bobbyjenkins, liars and spinners, don't worry though, no one notices, lol. ;)

So sad, so pathetic, so obvious.
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jwb wrote:
Bill are you in the same boat as FRMLE ? start bailing
So, you are hinging your entire argument on the fact that I don't know the requirement to get into Canada in 2004? Thats it? That's your argument?

I have never been to Canada, btw. Don't care to go, have no idea what you need to go there. Why would I want to go there when I live in the greatest Country on the Planet?

You are so reaching, lets get back to the FBI being prevented from working Maura's case, lets talk about that instead of all the irrelevant things I don't care to know.

So funny that this is your best argument.

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