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Findmaura- that's one reason that I always felt that if the Saturn did hit vasi that it was someone else driving her car at the time.

But on the other hand if she dud leave and hit the kid would she have then walked her supervisor, a security guard, to her car and risk her seeing the damage.

Her boss asked her if she needed company for the night, if she wanted to go to dunkin with her and get some food but Maura turned her down saying she wanted to be alone and go to bed because she had class in the morning.
So it's def possible that she got walked back to the dorm and then turned around to go get her car.

I wonder if anyone knows what her class schedule. I'd be interested to know if she really had class on Friday or not.
Most students at unass don't have Friday classes, but I've also never known anybody in the nursing program there.
Most majors don't have Friday classes but it seems nursing is rather demanding.
I'm gonna try to look up the nursing course catalog to see if her major had Friday classes a lot or not.

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Findmaura- to me it looks like she had been staying off campus and that's why her room was packed.
I believe she was staying off campus with her new bf.
This was just a theory of mine but I feel like Fred confirmed his existence in his written statement to the umass pd.

He said they went to the first xar dealer bc maura's boyfriend had good luck there in the past.
Well Billy never lived in mass, he lived in OH & OK, it's pretty unlikely that he would have bought a car in Northampton.
I think that pretty much confirms that she had a new bf, not definitely but I believe she did.
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Your original post #20604, page 1013, 5th paragraph:
BobJenkins-OG wrote:
Yea Snowy, even your comments about Floyd/McKay and the local from the prominent family.
Floyd and McKay's names were all over the news and more than that they've already been all over the internet in the Media and on forums such as Topix. Both of those guys were bad and clearly they made their own reputations, a few posters speculating on some message board here is hardly gonna make any sort of difference when you consider what their reputations already are. McKay was one of those nazi cops who harrassed people, he straight up was the kind of cop that would mace an old lady, and he actually did do that lol. You can watch a video of him mace a young woman on youtube, he loved hosing people with his Mace. He also had a bad reputation of being a sexist and violence against women. He actually lost his las job due to a domestic vilence incident against his wife, she later dropped the charges which allowed him to even get a job in Franconia. So he made his reputation, not internet posters.
AS for Floyd he clearly is mentally unstable. He's a sick bastard thats obsessed with violence and killing. I already spoke about him in the last pages so I don't need to go on but needless to say this buy made his own reputation. People on Topix discussing things like this are the result of his reputation, not the other way around.
What are you saying that FLoyd is merely an innocent citizen who's just getting the bad end of the stick?
Both FLoyd and McKay are just innocent bystanders that got caught up in the whole mess and if it wasn't for threads on MM everyone would think these guys are great? Come on
Even the local from a prominent family. First of all nobody has ever named this guy on any thread. You can figure out his name if you really try but it's not that easy. But once again, nobody just picked a random innocent name out of a phone book and decided to pick on this guy, there's clearly a reason for this. A lot of locals up there think that he is responsible, including his family members. This is another kid with serious violence against women issues with his ex wife moving out of state because she was so scared of him. That's pretty bad. If its true that he poured a new concret floor in the weeks after feb 9 I would say this guy needs a good lookin at. It appears that LE agrees with me on this as they apparently have tried to get search warrants and permission to search the property.
Even still nobody is saying this kids name, nobody is saying the name of his business. Even if they did it wouldn't really matter that much because his name is already shit around there, that's why everyone thinks that he's probably a murderer. How is that people that post online's fault? It's not. These rumors were rumors around town long before they were written about on topix.
Even still, with these guys people are still pretty cautious not to say that they definetly did anything. We are asking questions that are legitimate to ask. Is half the town right that this kid is responsible?
Also if you notice when I made that post about Floyd and McKay I never said that they did anyhting, I never said that I thought they did. I said that I thought that these men could be capable of something like this but I also asked for reasons these guys couldn't possibly have done it. Really I was looking for a good reason they shouldn't be considered as suspects.
Its funny because I'll get people talking about how insane, how ludicrous that is, well ok it very well may be crazy, but why? Just saying something is crazy doesn't make it so. If something is so crazy it should be easy to show it to be crazy.
I'm tired of people crying over these liars, women beaters and criminals. Do you realize who's reputation your defending? It's not like we are accusing the town's doctor here. These guys made their reputations, what we are discussing is the fall out from that, not the cause of that.
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**Even the local from a prominent family. First of all nobody has ever named this guy on any thread. You can figure out his name if you really try but it's not that easy. But once again, nobody just picked a random innocent name out of a phone book and decided to pick on this guy, there's clearly a reason for this. A lot of locals up there think that he is responsible, including his family members. This is another kid with serious violence against women issues with his ex wife moving out of state because she was so scared of him. That's pretty bad. If its true that he poured a new concret floor in the weeks after feb 9 I would say this guy needs a good lookin at. It appears that LE agrees with me on this as they apparently have tried to get search warrants and permission to search the property.
Even still nobody is saying this kids name, nobody is saying the name of his business. Even if they did it wouldn't really matter that much because his name is already shit around there, that's why everyone thinks that he's probably a murderer. How is that people that post online's fault? It's not. These rumors were rumors around town long before they were written about on topix**
Really? How interesting. Who are the locals that think he's responsible? Did they tell you that?
Did his family tell you they think he's responsible?
How could you know that everyone thinks he's a murderer? Did you come to the area and ask everyone?
You are so full of sh*t it's unbelievable. I won't waste my time explaining right and wrong because you clearly don't know the difference. But if you run your mouth and insinuate someone is thought to me a murderer you should have the gonads to back up what your saying. Can you back it up?

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Two things:

1. Vasi may not have been a hit and run. At the time the speculation was mainly that he had been car-surfing and fell.

2. Maura's home dorm was nearby the dorm where she was working, a quick easy walk, no need to use her car.

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Very good points advocator, I made the same point that vasi may or may not have even been a hit and run.
He was so drunk he doesnt know if he got hit by a car or fell out of/off a car.
He must've been wasted

But ithougjt LE said his injuries were consistent with being hit by a car, did they not? I think I read that in an article but right now I can't say 100% if it was in the media or on s forum.(

As for your second point that's another one of the reasons I've always felt if it was the Saturn that hit vasi it wasn't Maura driving.

But many people theorize, myself included, that Maura was staying off campus, most likely with a new bf. People on the floor of her dorm said they rarely saw her, when I was in the dorm you saw everyone all the time because everyone shares the same bathroom. The only people you didn't see all the time were people that stayed f'd campus with their gf. That's doesnt mean anything definite but the fact that her dormroom was packed, likely still packed, it indicates there's a good possibility she wasn't staying in her dorm room.
I've often wondered if the email was printed out because she was packing her boxes to move in with her new bf, like she kinda felt bad but used that email to remind her he was a cheating asshole. I'm saying that we have no idea that email or the boxes being packed actually mean anything in relation to her heading up nh
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Jwb- she most likely was not driing to mattoon street,. The thing about Triangle street is that it's the shortcut to the other side of town, where many many kids have off campus houses. You take a left at the end of triangle and there's a couple sorority or frat houses and a bunch of other large houses that people often have parties at.
When you drive down that rd (main st) on a thurs, fri or sat night there will be a party at at least one place, usually a few.
There also are several large apartment complexes.
The point being that if she did leave work to either go see someone or go to a party it's very likely that she would've gone down triangle to get there.
I don't believe she ordered pizzas from Brunos, well at least she didn't with the stolen cards. Although Brunos is another place like pinnochios where you can get huge pizzas that are cheap, & they're pretty damn good too. The best, and most popular, pizza is antonio's on Russell street but their pizza is really expensive. Maura was said to be frugal and she sure did seem to like big cheap pizzas.
Maura called rao's coffee shop often and that is on kellog ave but It looks like their hours are only till 10pm- you can get to kellog right off of triangle but taking pleasent st would have been the best road to take from what I see.
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Jenkins- maybe Maura had another BF that lived at Amherst College? Amherst college (boltwood ave) easily accessible from triangle.It is approx 2 miles from u-mass

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GrampaMo wrote:
BobJenkins-OG
**Even the local from a prominent family. First of all nobody has ever named this guy on any thread. You can figure out his name if you really try but it's not that easy. But once again, nobody just picked a random innocent name out of a phone book and decided to pick on this guy, there's clearly a reason for this. A lot of locals up there think that he is responsible, including his family members. This is another kid with serious violence against women issues with his ex wife moving out of state because she was so scared of him. That's pretty bad. If its true that he poured a new concret floor in the weeks after feb 9 I would say this guy needs a good lookin at. It appears that LE agrees with me on this as they apparently have tried to get search warrants and permission to search the property.
Even still nobody is saying this kids name, nobody is saying the name of his business. Even if they did it wouldn't really matter that much because his name is already shit around there, that's why everyone thinks that he's probably a murderer. How is that people that post online's fault? It's not. These rumors were rumors around town long before they were written about on topix**
Really? How interesting. Who are the locals that think he's responsible? Did they tell you that?
Did his family tell you they think he's responsible?
How could you know that everyone thinks he's a murderer? Did you come to the area and ask everyone?
You are so full of sh*t it's unbelievable. I won't waste my time explaining right and wrong because you clearly don't know the difference. But if you run your mouth and insinuate someone is thought to me a murderer you should have the gonads to back up what your saying. Can you back it up?
The writer of voluminous posts correlates rumor / as facts with sloppy-poor thought processes to equal investigative savvy. The entertainment factor prevails by the bizarre fixation and all night presence....it's odd for a younger person.

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jwb wrote:
ah very good paris I never saw the update. i did email Renner about the time differences way back. good job.
thanks
What time was the Vasi Hit?
From several links it was:

Petrit Vasi was found unconscious at 12.20 am on Friday morning now 2/6/04, at the corner of Triangle and Mattoon streets (proximity?) by Amherst police. The story of his critical head injuries appeared in the student newspaper on 2/9/04, the day Maura left.
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OK- just did the stop frame again on the ID show and this is what i got:

10:10 call to Hanover lasted 29 min (sister ?)Call #1

12;07 am call to 8290 new City (Billy) call #2

Maura breaks down after the call to Billy

3:40 am call to 8290 (Dominos)

an observation: There are many calls to new City (Billy) that only have a one min or so duration.
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The 12:07 am call lasted 7 minutes

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jwb wrote:
The 12:07 am call lasted 7 minutes
Who's last 4 digits are 8290, Billy's or Dominos?
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Just me--paris wrote:
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Who's last 4 digits are 8290, Billy's or Dominos?
oops thanks yea 8290 is new city and 8911 to Dominos.

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jwb wrote:
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oops thanks yea 8290 is new city and 8911 to Dominos.
Thank you. My old notes on all these numbers are somewhere in this mess I call home.
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Just got back from OCONUS travel for work and see that this has finally become the allbobjenkins topix forum. WoW!

How do you have so much time to sit here day and night and hammer out such long rambling posts over and over?

You win the award for topix dedication.
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I just read some of the posts on renners blog, thats some creepy stuff posted about his 4 year old kid? Damn.

If anyone wonders why I stay anonymous on this little forum, the answer is right there. You would be surprised at how easy it is to find out who you are from simple postings on the internet.

It's not a problem until some deranged creep decides to make you his project. Someone with nothing but 20 hours a day and an internet connection with a search engine can make your life miserable.

Let's hope he doesn't decide to make bobjenkins his newest chewtoy, because there is enough info on him to go around.

I suggest everyone reading this consider how identifiable you are and protect yourselves.

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Jwb those calls are from thurs nite, correct?

If it is from thurs at 12:07 than I think we can safely assume it was Billy that brought her to tears like that.

The UMass cops assertion that the call was traced back to on campus really makes no sense though, but I suppose that wouldn't be the first time a cop for caught talking out his ass about this case.

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FrmLE wrote:
I just read some of the posts on renners blog, thats some creepy stuff posted about his 4 year old kid? Damn.
If anyone wonders why I stay anonymous on this little forum, the answer is right there. You would be surprised at how easy it is to find out who you are from simple postings on the internet.
It's not a problem until some deranged creep decides to make you his project. Someone with nothing but 20 hours a day and an internet connection with a search engine can make your life miserable.
Let's hope he doesn't decide to make bobjenkins his newest chewtoy, because there is enough info on him to go around.
I suggest everyone reading this consider how identifiable you are and protect yourselves.
I think you're right and hope everyone takes heed to your advice. In a perfect world, we would not have to worry about such things, but you atre sooooooooo right. I can find someone quicker than the 8 second bullride, and almost always without being thrown off.

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Wow frmLE, I'm impressed.
Thank you for your concern about beagle makin me his next "chew toy"

But honestly beagle can bring it on, I would absolutely love it if this guy tried to come find.
If he thinks I'd be scared of him he's got another thing coming.
But I'm confident he'll never come look for me.
The guy is clearly a coward, hiding behind his computer and his YouTube videos, taunting the family of a missing girl. & now he's taken it to a whole other level by threatening renner's 4 ye old boy, wow just think about how big of a coward this guy must be.
Think he'd b laughing like that to Fred or billy's face? Hell no, no way.
Think he would make a threat to renner's face about his son?? No way

If he wants to make videos about me, have fun dude. Honestly once the Dave sullivans boy video was explained to me and I realized that it wasn't supposed to be some kid w his head cut off but rather me & my blabber mouth, I thought that was the first relatively funny video he made.

One thing I was thinking about though is some of the old posts he made; the ones about him being asked whether he killed mm by a PI.
He goes on and on about how expensive, and experienced this PI is. He then goes on and on about how a PI like that isn't goin to go ask someone if they killed Maura unless they bad a damn good reason to do so., so he's pretty much saying that this PI had a damn good reason to ask him that.. I wish we coup know whethe that meeting ever actually happened or not. It's hard to say because it's been proven that he's lied about other things, like the vandalism to his yard so I'm not sure whether to believe it or not.
Why was je trying to convince everyone that there was a good reason this PI asked him if he killed Maura?

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