Maura Murray

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So Maura is supposedly buried under some concret slab in Benton?
Why don't you ask your friend?

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Bill 05478 wrote:
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Here is an email she sent me as well yesterday.
From: "Admin. Maura Murray Missing" <admin@mauramurraymissing.c om>
To: "Bill Wood" <billwood810@yahoo.com>
I believe the one born in July '66 was married to V__________ who now lives in St. Albans. They divorced and I thought he was the one who married L________ who is the Grafton County Attorney. Wouldn't he be the Jr. or does he have a son named Richard? Think I just answered my own question. V________ seems to have a son named R______, but he seems as though he would have been too young 7 years ago???
ARE YOU INSANE? talk about disrespect to the family. keep your emails with her aunt OFF a public forum. got it. please. thank you. Dawn

you putting blanks hardly keep your info private you should just post it online for pete sake so the perp knows you are on to them if it is a perp. or another innocent persons name smear campaign. good grief.. take a hike new guy.. sorry but that is just wrong.

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and you might want to look up some new laws on internet laws regarding LIBEL............... even if anon posted. THAT IS LIBEL AS ALL GET OUT and regarding an attorney......... yes folks tune up the banjo.. we got a live one here

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dawn sunrise wrote:
and you might want to look up some new laws on internet laws regarding LIBEL.......... even if anon posted. THAT IS LIBEL AS ALL GET OUT and regarding an attorney......... yes folks tune up the banjo.. we got a live one here
You must be one of those Woodsville inbreds!!!

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hannah_b wrote:
Are you referring to the younger Richard Saffo?
We should all remember what happened to the poor people that lived near the area where Maura's car went off the road when their real names were put on a public forum. I'd hate to see that happen to other innocents. And yes, you are innocent until proven guilty.

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ARE YOU INSANE? talk about disrespect to the family. keep your emails with her aunt OFF a public forum. got it. please. thank you. Dawn
you putting blanks hardly keep your info private you should just post it online for pete sake so the perp knows you are on to them if it is a perp. or another innocent persons name smear campaign. good grief.. take a hike new guy.. sorry but that is just wrong.
You must have gone to Woodsville High judging by you grammar Ellie Mae!!! I'll write what I want to write!!! Maybe the scumbag will see it and panic and maybe he won't either way he will know people know if he sees it. And as for leaking info., your great state attorney with the permission of former Governor of New Hampshire Benson, illegally leaked confidential documents back in 2007 pertaining to a case in Massachusetts that had no connection to NH whatsoever so who is more LIBEL you tell me??? It stated right in the documents he released that they were to be kept confidential!!! The great state of NH gets involved with cases that they don't have a right to be in but yet the ones they should be working on they brush under the rug. Seems everyone in that state is messed up or smoking crack. I remember when this forum at one time was accusing the SBD and even at one point the police officer now chief for Haverhill. So go back and read if they haven't been deleted yet and go fuck yourself.

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You must be one of those Woodsville inbreds!!!
Why would you insult the people of Woodsville? If you look under her name you'd see she doesn't live anywhere near Woodsville or NH. So why are you insulting the people of Woodsville by calling them inbreds?

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Why would you insult the people of Woodsville? If you look under her name you'd see she doesn't live anywhere near Woodsville or NH. So why are you insulting the people of Woodsville by calling them inbreds?
You know it doesn't matter where it says you are, mine said CT but I am in VT so location does not mean a thing on here. As far as insulting them, if anything that would be a compliment. Have you ever been there? I don't even recognize my boys anymore, but even they say that that town is very shady and to trust no one.
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Anne wrote:
<quoted text>I have become accustomed to reading this thread every couple weeks because nothing is going on accept personal attacks. It is shocking to arrive and find all this! I have no idea what to make of it all except the vein of truth here is that from the beginning, Mauras disappearance was doomed to be swept under the carpet, so to speak. This is just my opinion.
Sometimes it's helpful to make a list of some things that do not make sense and then come up with answers under what circumstances they WOULD make sense. MM was superior in terms of intelligence, athletic ability, etc. She had always had good judgment,good planning and organizational skills, great personality and well-liked. So let's consider her possible reasons for the following:

1) driving a car that she knew was in bad running condition all of
those miles (she avoided driving this car around Amherst much
of the time because of it's condition)

2) spending money on a fairly good quantity of alcohol when she'd
only withdrew $280 from an ATM

3) no indication she'd made reservations anywhere

4) pushing those close to her away (told her bf she would call him
later but never did)

5) told her father that she would phone him Monday evening but did
not

6) told work supervisor and some professors there was a death in
family when there was no death

7) disappeared within a 15-minute timespan

8) she has never attempted to contact anyone since Feb 9, 2004
(except possible call on Red Cross card, but no confirmation
that was her).

9) refusing assistance from SBD; did not seek assistance from
residents in area according to all reports

Try coming up with reasons why each of these reactions, behaviors would not be illogical. ALSO, leave OUT the possibilities of her running away and/or suiciding; also leave out alien abduction theory, sex slave abduction and stem cell research theory. What logical explanation for her disappearance remains?


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Bill 05478 wrote:
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You know it doesn't matter where it says you are, mine said CT but I am in VT so location does not mean a thing on here. As far as insulting them, if anything that would be a compliment. Have you ever been there? I don't even recognize my boys anymore, but even they say that that town is very shady and to trust no one.
Yes I've been there.
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Sara wrote:
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The Deputy County attorney of GC is female though.
oh, look!! ;>) kuwait!!! boosting credibility, one post at a time. lol
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Why would you insult the people of Woodsville? If you look under her name you'd see she doesn't live anywhere near Woodsville or NH. So why are you insulting the people of Woodsville by calling them inbreds?
and, so, we've come full circle.

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and, so, we've come full circle.
Yep, sure looks like it. Sigh~~~
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I think he might be fighting his way through all the BS to get to the truth as he has done for years.
Better to be pissed off than pissed on.
classic comment, Wowzer!
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Bill 05478 wrote:
It was February 9, 2005 just a few feet from where Maura's black Saturn was found pressed against a snow bank one year before. Joining him were family, friends, a local minister and a herd of media.
By now Fred Murray knew the area intimately. Ever since his daughter went missing, he had spent almost every weekend in the White Mountains, driving up from Bridgeport, Conn., to search for any clue to Maura's disappearance.
Earlier that same Wednesday morning, Fred tipped off the media that he was headed to the N.H. State House in Concord in hopes of meeting newly-elected Governor John Lynch. With media at his heels, Fred did meet with Lynch for about 10 minutes.
This was his latest plea for FBI help in the case. Since Maura was still considered a missing person, the FBI could only join the investigation if invited by New Hampshire State Police.
Fred also asked for the governor's help in releasing police records pertaining to the investigation. He had requested documents from police such as phone logs, and accident reports. The governor assured Fred he would look into the situation.
After the meeting, Fred told reporters he hoped Gov. Lynch would intervene on his behalf, but in an interview two years later he described the meeting as no more than "window dressing" -- an effort to show the public that the governor was a "good guy."
This was Fred's second appeal to a New Hampshire governor. In May of 2004, three months after Maura disappeared, Fred had petitioned then Gov. Craig Benson for help, based in part on a new lead that developed.
A local contractor named Rick Forcier had reported seeing Maura on the night of her accident around 8 about 4 to 5 miles from the scene of her abandoned car. Forcier lived on Wild Ammonoosuc Road about 100 yards from where Maura's car was found.
Forcier was returning home from a contract job in Franconia about 17 miles away when he observed a young woman who fit Maura's description running eastbound on Route 112.
When Forcier was first questioned by police, ten days after Maura disappeared, he did not mention seeing the girl running because he was confused about the dates and mistakenly thought it had been two nights after Maura's accident.
Nearly three months later, after hearing numerous news reports about the search for Maura, Forcier checked his work records and realized it was the same night as Maura's disappearance. Forcier told his story to Fred Murray, who relayed the information to police.
On April 29, Forcier was interviewed by State Police Lt. John Scarinza who checked out Forcier's time records at his job in Franconia and confirmed that his story was credible.
As a result of this new information, a search was conducted on May 8. Canine teams with six dogs and 15 Fish and Game officers searched the area where Forcier may have seen Maura running. No new leads were reported.
That same day Fred held a press conference at the Woodsville American Legion Hall with the parents of Brianna Maitland, a 17 year-old girl who was last seen after leaving her waitress job in Montgomery, Vermont, about six weeks after Maura went missing. Montgomery is located about 90 miles north of Woodsville. Maitland's car was found abandoned about a mile from where she worked. At the same press conference were the parents of Aime Riley who was last seen leaving a bar in Manchester, N.H. in August of 2003. Her body was found in April of 2004 in a pond in Manchester, N.H. about 120 miles south of Woodsville.
The press conference was another attempt by Fred to push for FBI help. He and the other families believed the three cases could be connected and since the Maitland and Murray cases crossed state lines, the FBI should be involved, they reasoned.
plagiarism at its finest.

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Snowy wrote:
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and, so, we've come full circle.
Full circle? Why because I tell the truth about the general area up there. Do you live there? Do you have family there? Do you vacation there? Have you ever even been there? If not then you need to go and you will see exactly what I am talking about. Then I dare you to ask somebody about Maura and see what happens, but first talk about something totally different as you do here, and then throw it in, you will see your conversation will definitely take on a different tone if not end altogether. But, you may get lucky and find someone who wants to talk and then you may actually be helping rather than casting negative doubt on here.

The majority of the young people (teens to their early 30's) there are on drugs from weed all the way up to heroin and prescription drugs (oxy). I hate to say it but 3 of my 4 boys fall into this category because they have nothing to do there but this. They could always go to the gym there that this mans family owns I guess. This mans own son got the hell out of there, and one of my sons did as well, they managed to stay out of the BS up there.

Like I said earlier you could talk to 3 different people and they will all give you a different story but ask them who they think did it and they all including members of his family, point at the same guy. Now this is locals saying it is one of their own.
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Full circle? Why because I tell the truth about the general area up there. Do you live there? Do you have family there? Do you vacation there? Have you ever even been there? If not then you need to go and you will see exactly what I am talking about. Then I dare you to ask somebody about Maura and see what happens, but first talk about something totally different as you do here, and then throw it in, you will see your conversation will definitely take on a different tone if not end altogether. But, you may get lucky and find someone who wants to talk and then you may actually be helping rather than casting negative doubt on here.
The majority of the young people (teens to their early 30's) there are on drugs from weed all the way up to heroin and prescription drugs (oxy). I hate to say it but 3 of my 4 boys fall into this category because they have nothing to do there but this. They could always go to the gym there that this mans family owns I guess. This mans own son got the hell out of there, and one of my sons did as well, they managed to stay out of the BS up there.
Like I said earlier you could talk to 3 different people and they will all give you a different story but ask them who they think did it and they all including members of his family, point at the same guy. Now this is locals saying it is one of their own.
i don't doubt your sincerity in your beliefs, but remain skeptical of broad accusations founded in gossip and hearsay.
this continues to be an exercise in observing the combined thought processes of nothing more than opinionated individuals supposing a certain end.
i'm inclined to be reality-based....show me, don't tell me. and, so far, there is no proof of what became of MM.

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Snowy wrote:
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i don't doubt your sincerity in your beliefs, but remain skeptical of broad accusations founded in gossip and hearsay.
this continues to be an exercise in observing the combined thought processes of nothing more than opinionated individuals supposing a certain end.
i'm inclined to be reality-based....show me, don't tell me. and, so far, there is no proof of what became of MM.
I would have to agree with you there. It's just that so many people in that town truly believe this man had some kind of role in Maura's disappearance. When it is so overwhelming I tend to start to believe it. He has been on the radar for quite sometime to be honest. This is fact as well, as when they did go to his fathers business shortly after MM vanished to conduct a search the Police were denied access. This after they had poured a new concrete floor in their shop, in the middle of the coldest weather that the northeast has ever seen. It's not often that you see concrete being poured in the middle of winter with sub-zero temps. I also hope I am wrong for the simple fact that I would prefer that my sons were not friends or even know a murderer.
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I would have to agree with you there. It's just that so many people in that town truly believe this man had some kind of role in Maura's disappearance. When it is so overwhelming I tend to start to believe it. He has been on the radar for quite sometime to be honest. This is fact as well, as when they did go to his fathers business shortly after MM vanished to conduct a search the Police were denied access. This after they had poured a new concrete floor in their shop, in the middle of the coldest weather that the northeast has ever seen. It's not often that you see concrete being poured in the middle of winter with sub-zero temps. I also hope I am wrong for the simple fact that I would prefer that my sons were not friends or even know a murderer.
the obvious problem is that if she immediately accepted a ride, either planned or spontaneous, she could have been harmed, disposed of, or may be alive and well some distance from NH.
the circumstances of Maura's disappearance are even less well defined than natalee holloway, who at least was known to be with certain individuals around the time of her disappearance.
as Wowzer tells us, women travel and exercise at all hours on these rural roads, and it's highly unlikely Maura would have stumbled upon a stranger with bad intent. of course, just my opinion...thrown into a hat with all the others.
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I would have to agree with you there. It's just that so many people in that town truly believe this man had some kind of role in Maura's disappearance. When it is so overwhelming I tend to start to believe it. He has been on the radar for quite sometime to be honest. This is fact as well, as when they did go to his fathers business shortly after MM vanished to conduct a search the Police were denied access. This after they had poured a new concrete floor in their shop, in the middle of the coldest weather that the northeast has ever seen. It's not often that you see concrete being poured in the middle of winter with sub-zero temps. I also hope I am wrong for the simple fact that I would prefer that my sons were not friends or even know a murderer.
bloody knife, a-frame, woodchipper....add the concrete floor. that's how i see it.

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