Maura Murray

As for suspects,no one is above reproach.Im sure Ted Bundy&Jeffrey Dahmer seemed like swell guys to the locals too.

findmaura wrote:

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Has there been an "official" statement ever made clearing SBD???Has there ever been an "official" statement clearing anyone??I regress.

Buried in the reams of the old bullshit on these forums was at least one statement that he had passed a lie detector test. That was good enough for most. And of course he was able to leave the miserable life that people had created for him here, mostly by shack, and go to Florida with not even a whisper from the police, were he passed away.

All that bullshit, simply for trying to help out an inebriated girl who crashed her car on the side of the road.

Lessons learned. If you are in that area, try to help no one, don't get involved in anything, don't admit to seeing anything. Least your name be continuously dragged through the internet mud by faceless drones who insist that only bad is done by people involved in this case. Even after your dead, there is no respite.

Bill

findmaura wrote:

As for suspects,no one is above reproach.Im sure Ted Bundy&Jeffrey Dahmer seemed like swell guys to the locals too.

CRAP!! Where they in the area also? Doesn't really seem like Dahmers M.O. though, does it?

Oh wait. He was dead in '94 and Ted was dead in '89. Phewwww. Guess we can cross them off the list. Oh, was Maura murdered?? I just thought that she ran away from the car after having an accident while driving drunk??? Where did this murder talk come from? Somebody see some evidence somewhere. Hear a struggle, find some blood?

C'mon, lets keep this entertainment going. More made up stuff to keep the old windmill going.

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

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CRAP!! Where they in the area also? Doesn't really seem like Dahmers M.O. though, does it?
Oh wait. He was dead in '94 and Ted was dead in '89. Phewwww. Guess we can cross them off the list. Oh, was Maura murdered?? I just thought that she ran away from the car after having an accident while driving drunk??? Where did this murder talk come from? Somebody see some evidence somewhere. Hear a struggle, find some blood?
C'mon, lets keep this entertainment going. More made up stuff to keep the old windmill going.
Bill

Who said she was drunk or even ran off? Sounds like pure fabrication to me. Where is the proof? Who saw her drinking or drunk? Not by SBD accounts! Who saw her run off from the accident? Certainly nobody in the area came forth with that information. Your theory is she likely ran off because she was drunk and hiding from police yet there is no proof of either.

We all get it!! Just theories. You have one just like everyone else. The difference is that you have a pompus attitude towards everyone that tries to post here.

Perhaps those who attempt to disuade any thoughts or ideas about Maura's disappearance know somebody that might know something. With all these years of people expressing their thoughts and opinions on Forums, perhaps it makes some feel uncomfortable.

JWB wrote:

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Who said she was drunk or even ran off? Sounds like pure fabrication to me. Where is the proof? Who saw her drinking or drunk? Not by SBD accounts! Who saw her run off from the accident? Certainly nobody in the area came forth with that information. Your theory is she likely ran off because she was drunk and hiding from police yet there is no proof of either.
We all get it!! Just theories. You have one just like everyone else. The difference is that you have a pompus attitude towards everyone that tries to post here.

This is still the funniest of arguments. People that want to show what they don't know is why they have the answer. We will go through this for the new peoples benefit.

There are people here that sit behind their computer and incessantly pound out their nonsense and then there are some people here who have been to hundreds even thousands of accidents with minimum of over ten years going to accidents. I wonder if people with that type of experience start to recognize patterns? I wonder if Maura's accident has all the earmarks of a specific type of accident and none of the earmarks of any other type of accident?

I just wonder if someone, with special training, like maybe your mechanic told you s/he thinks that your engine is misfiring. You would say I don't believe you. You don't see the pattern. Does that make you smarter than him/her? Does that mean s/he is wrong? Or does that just make you not bright enough to recognize when someone might know more than you?

Everything that is publicly known about this crash, is easily explained by using a little logic, Occam's razor and being able to see the pattern that has been repeated over and over and over.

How smart are you?

Bill

Shack wrote:

Perhaps those who attempt to disuade any thoughts or ideas about Maura's disappearance know somebody that might know something. With all these years of people expressing their thoughts and opinions on Forums, perhaps it makes some feel uncomfortable.

Woooooooo. Someone knows something. How mysterious. There must be some conspiracy correct? Because it can't simply be a young girl just running away from a car crash because she was drunk. Because if it was that. Something seen hundreds of times in this country every day. Then there would be no story. Except there is no real mystery. And everything points to exactly that.

Talk about a small group of people with a specific agenda and someone specifically that imposes her thoughts and experiences on this case.

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

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CRAP!! Where they in the area also? Doesn't really seem like Dahmers M.O. though, does it?
Oh wait. He was dead in '94 and Ted was dead in '89. Phewwww. Guess we can cross them off the list. Oh, was Maura murdered?? I just thought that she ran away from the car after having an accident while driving drunk??? Where did this murder talk come from? Somebody see some evidence somewhere. Hear a struggle, find some blood?
C'mon, lets keep this entertainment going. More made up stuff to keep the old windmill going.
Bill

Oh,so its your "expert" opinion Maura was driving drunk?Somebody see some evidence somewhere?you "thought" she ran away from the scene?Your determined to convince us..

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Woooooooo. Someone knows something. How mysterious. There must be some conspiracy correct? Because it can't simply be a young girl just running away from a car crash because she was drunk. Because if it was that. Something seen hundreds of times in this country every day. Then there would be no story. Except there is no real mystery. And everything points to exactly that.
Talk about a small group of people with a specific agenda and someone specifically that imposes her thoughts and experiences on this case.
Bill

if this in fact happens hundreds of times each day,as you say,We'd have missing dead girls everywhere.....so the tracking dogs found the spot she levitated bill??

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Buried in the reams of the old bullshit on these forums was at least one statement that he had passed a lie detector test. That was good enough for most. And of course he was able to leave the miserable life that people had created for him here, mostly by shack, and go to Florida with not even a whisper from the police, were he passed away.
All that bullshit, simply for trying to help out an inebriated girl who crashed her car on the side of the road.
Lessons learned. If you are in that area, try to help no one, don't get involved in anything, don't admit to seeing anything. Least your name be continuously dragged through the internet mud by faceless drones who insist that only bad is done by people involved in this case. Even after your dead, there is no respite.
Bill

I'd sure like to see the links on the lie detector tests..Who took them?Great information,if you could provide it..

WTH

It is not your message but the way you deliver it. You disrespect everyone here and it is getting tiring.I really think you just enjoy arguing aka entertainment for you.

In case you haven't noticed, posters are dropping like flies because no one is interested in playing this cruel game of yours. I don't expect you to change so as I type I know it is a waste of time.

By the way- you still didn't show any proof that Maura had been drinking.The simplest explanation is not always the answer.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Woooooooo. Someone knows something. How mysterious. There must be some conspiracy correct? Because it can't simply be a young girl just running away from a car crash because she was drunk. Because if it was that. Something seen hundreds of times in this country every day. Then there would be no story. Except there is no real mystery. And everything points to exactly that.
Talk about a small group of people with a specific agenda and someone specifically that imposes her thoughts and experiences on this case.
Bill

Everyone I hope all is well.
Bill I stumbled across the old forum and read you were posting in the forum when Mason was posting. He has posted some of his thoughts about how she met foul play. Do you think that his hypothesis doesn't have any weight?

JWB wrote:

WTH
It is not your message but the way you deliver it. You disrespect everyone here and it is getting tiring.I really think you just enjoy arguing aka entertainment for you.
In case you haven't noticed, posters are dropping like flies because no one is interested in playing this cruel game of yours. I don't expect you to change so as I type I know it is a waste of time.
By the way- you still didn't show any proof that Maura had been drinking.The simplest explanation is not always the answer.

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Really. Posters come and go. Most realize there are five pieces of information known publicly in this case and some with average intelligence, sort through it pretty quick and leave. If they were offended by me they would just be popping up all over webslothes or other "moderated" sites. They don't because they recognize that there is nothing here to "figure out".

And your right. I guess the officers report is wrong. What I have personally seen dozens of times, is wrong. What FrmLE has seen is wrong. The alcohol in the car was just being used as an air freshener. The red splashes in the car, must have been a mistake. The bottle found sitting outside the car, planted by someone. The fact she ran from the scene, no one has ever done that before.- JWB, I think your engine is misfiring, but you will tell me I am wrong based upon all your years of sitting behind a computer typing out nonsense.

Whoosh.....whooosh....whoooosh feel the breeze.

Bill

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Everyone I hope all is well.
Bill I stumbled across the old forum and read you were posting in the forum when Mason was posting. He has posted some of his thoughts about how she met foul play. Do you think that his hypothesis doesn't have any weight?

Hi Lighthouse. Mason, posted a lot of stuff. Lots of stuff. A lot I didn't agree with but you would have to point me to something specific or ask me specifically what theory you want me to comment on.

Bill

Bill,have you dug up that link on the lie detector results yet?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW WWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.
Really. Posters come and go. Most realize there are five pieces of information known publicly in this case and some with average intelligence, sort through it pretty quick and leave. If they were offended by me they would just be popping up all over webslothes or other "moderated" sites. They don't because they recognize that there is nothing here to "figure out".
And your right. I guess the officers report is wrong. What I have personally seen dozens of times, is wrong. What FrmLE has seen is wrong. The alcohol in the car was just being used as an air freshener. The red splashes in the car, must have been a mistake. The bottle found sitting outside the car, planted by someone. The fact she ran from the scene, no one has ever done that before.- JWB, I think your engine is misfiring, but you will tell me I am wrong based upon all your years of sitting behind a computer typing out nonsense.
Whoosh.....whooosh....whoooosh feel the breeze.
Bill

Because she had alcohol in the car does not mean she was intoxicated does it? You can assume she was drinking.If she had sipped a little wine it doesn't mean she was intoxicated does it? Is her BAC on the police report? Must have missed it.

Yup, Websleuths is moderated, some Posters "banned"

Here, on Maura's Topix, we just ignore or scroll/skim over the mean or arrogant Postings.

And, fwiw..most Posters sit in front of their computers (not behind)

JWB wrote:

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Because she had alcohol in the car does not mean she was intoxicated does it? You can assume she was drinking.If she had sipped a little wine it doesn't mean she was intoxicated does it? Is her BAC on the police report? Must have missed it.

JWB - I see the humor. I understand that there is a chance that there was foul play. However LE mentioned a pink or red liquid poured out in the snow. Had that been blood I'd think there would be more people thinking foul play.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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JWB - I see the humor. I understand that there is a chance that there was foul play. However LE mentioned a pink or red liquid poured out in the snow. Had that been blood I'd think there would be more people thinking foul play.

I understand there was alcohol at the scene and she (probably) had been drinking but nobody but Maura knows if she was intoxicated. SBD said she wasn't and that is the closest info we have to knowing the truth. that curve is a tuff curve for anyone especially if not familiar with the road.

JWB wrote:

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Because she had alcohol in the car does not mean she was intoxicated does it? You can assume she was drinking.If she had sipped a little wine it doesn't mean she was intoxicated does it? Is her BAC on the police report? Must have missed it.

Why do you think she refused help and left the accident scene?
I've gone off the road a couple of times in the winter and prayed that someone would stop to help me.
If she wasn't drinking then what other reason is there for refusing help and leaving her car?