Maura Murray

QUICK QUESTION to which the answer has been posted many times before, I’m sure... but here goes:

Where are the possible gas stations and/or convenience stores in VT & NH where Maura might have stopped to fill up her tank and were there security cameras at any of the locations? I’m sure FM and KM would have been on top of that but I’ve never heard if Maura was seen on a CCTV or anywhere along the route, after (presumably) getting off the Interstate.

Frostman wrote:

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I am aware that LE often omits certain information from the public that might only be known to a perp.
If Maura had a black eye or a broken arm in the ATM video I think that LE would have released that information to the public. Don’t you?

I don't think they would release it either. But your saying a perp. as in she was murdered.

Maybe she had a blackeye and she needed to get away to hide the black eye from people.

Maybe when she crashed in NH she didn't want to explain that to LE. Maybe she ran from the accident to protect the person who gave her the black eye? Maybe it wasn't suicide but an accidental death.

Again no facts just questions. Maybe that is what makes this case so weird with the LE communication with others. No sign of a murder, but the person who ran away had physical damage to her face so they can't rule out possible foul play?

I don't know but think about it. This is all speculation.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I don't think they would release it either. But your saying a perp. as in she was murdered.
Maybe she had a blackeye and she needed to get away to hide the black eye from people.
Maybe when she crashed in NH she didn't want to explain that to LE. Maybe she ran from the accident to protect the person who gave her the black eye? Maybe it wasn't suicide but an accidental death.
Again no facts just questions. Maybe that is what makes this case so weird with the LE communication with others. No sign of a murder, but the person who ran away had physical damage to her face so they can't rule out possible foul play?
I don't know but think about it. This is all speculation.

I believe they (LE) WOULD have released the video if she’d been in an arm sling or had a black eye.

And yes, given the lack of any additional information, I believe she was murdered. Many of the disappeared have been abducted within a few moments — they’re seen on one surveillance camera and poof they disappear without a trace or any evidence and don’t show up on the next logically sequential security video. Ten-twelve minutes without video surveillance or witness observations is plenty long enough for Maura to disappear. Whether "Red Truck” grabbed her or she accepted a ride with someone who seemed well intentioned at the time is the only real dilemma for me.

Frostman wrote:

QUICK QUESTION to which the answer has been posted many times before, I’m sure... but here goes:
Where are the possible gas stations and/or convenience stores in VT & NH where Maura might have stopped to fill up her tank and were there security cameras at any of the locations? I’m sure FM and KM would have been on top of that but I’ve never heard if Maura was seen on a CCTV or anywhere along the route, after (presumably) getting off the Interstate.

Stage coach shop

cumb farms in woodsville nh

another woodsville NH station

wells river vt cumb farms just before crossing into NH

P&C truck stop rt 91 off ramp (VT)

I would think that all might have security cameras with the exception of maybe the small woodsville station and the stagecoach shop

JWB wrote:

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Stage coach shop
cumb farms in woodsville nh
another woodsville NH station
wells river vt cumb farms just before crossing into NH
P&C truck stop rt 91 off ramp (VT)
I would think that all might have security cameras with the exception of maybe the small woodsville station and the stagecoach shop

If Maura got off rt 91 in Fairlee vt instead of wells river and took rt 5 north to woodsville then there are more stations.

Question for citigirl if you are still looking in.

wiki says a dorm mate saw her leaving campus. Did Maura have a dorm mate or did she have a single room?

ok ok I guess the lightbulb means a dorm mate can be anyone that lives in the dorm and not just a room mate. I was a commuter lol.

stll interested in your answer citigirl

JWB wrote:

<quoted text> If Maura got off rt 91 in Fairlee vt instead of wells river and took rt 5 north to woodsville then there are more stations.

It is possible that if the car wasn't running well she might have gotten off I-91 at exit 15 or 16 rather than risk a run in with an 18-wheeler if the Saturn conked out. If she left Amherst at 3:30-ish then the timeline might fit. Dartmouth College Highway might have seemed like a good route on which to find a cheap motel for the night before moseying on up into the mountains to find solitude the next day. If there weren't any suitable accommodations then she might have continued on driving toward Bartlett.

I just don't understand the decision to take Rte 112 over Rte 302 once you were in Woodsville -- unless someone gave your intentionally misleading directions.

Peaceful today, isn't it?:)

JWB wrote:

ok ok I guess the lightbulb means a dorm mate can be anyone that lives in the dorm and not just a room mate. I was a commuter lol.stll interested in your answer citigirl

Single room, no roomies, lotsa doormats, dorm-mates rather. So it’s been written.

Twasn’t moi JWB, I used to think grey lightbulbs meant “clever" and the lit ones meant “brilliant”.

EVERYONE.

Be very careful because there are unscrupulous people here who will tell others in a public forum where you live and your name. I think we all knew this. This isn't right and those people should be held to account. The reason I write this is as a warning because there are some of those people here on this forum. They think that they outed me on another forum. If you poke around on these forums you will easily find who the perpetrators are.

I should point out, that the information they have placed out there in the public domain is bait. It's been there for years. It has nothing to do with me other than it is one layer in my onion protecting me from morons like this. But it is still the only ID I use on these forums.

While it actually tells no one anything about me, it should tell you volumes about the lowlifes that are involved. They were posting what they thought was personal information about me.

Do not come to this forum and interact with these people. They are sociopaths whose use of power on these forums must be absolute. If it is not, if they don't like what you say. If they think you are correct and can't actually debate you in the forum. They will not hesitate to try to drive you from the forum and they will use what amounts to terrorism to get people off.

Saying that, it is good to note that these aren't the sharpest pencils in the box. If you taken even minor precautions they will not be able to find out who you are. But remember, this isn't about they they think they did to me, it's about what they tried to do to me. The fact that they just weren't smart enough to do it, doesn't lessen the despicable nature of the act. This act has been threatened by this same group of people more than once. They have shown that they will try to act on it, even if they aren't smart enough to actually pull it off.

Interact with these people at your peril.

Bill

Frostman wrote:

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It is possible that if the car wasn't running well she might have gotten off I-91 at exit 15 or 16 rather than risk a run in with an 18-wheeler if the Saturn conked out. If she left Amherst at 3:30-ish then the timeline might fit. Dartmouth College Highway might have seemed like a good route on which to find a cheap motel for the night before moseying on up into the mountains to find solitude the next day. If there weren't any suitable accommodations then she might have continued on driving toward Bartlett.
I just don't understand the decision to take Rte 112 over Rte 302 once you were in Woodsville -- unless someone gave your intentionally misleading directions.
Peaceful today, isn't it?:)

Rt 112 comes right up on you in a hurray so Maura must have been looking for it. It is very easy to buzz right by it and continuing on rt 302. You really need to make a conscious effort even if you know it;s there.

yea very peaceful today- maybe family cookouts (wink)

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I don't think they would release it either. But your saying a perp. as in she was murdered.
Maybe she had a blackeye and she needed to get away to hide the black eye from people.
Maybe when she crashed in NH she didn't want to explain that to LE. Maybe she ran from the accident to protect the person who gave her the black eye? Maybe it wasn't suicide but an accidental death.
Again no facts just questions. Maybe that is what makes this case so weird with the LE communication with others. No sign of a murder, but the person who ran away had physical damage to her face so they can't rule out possible foul play?
I don't know but think about it. This is all speculation.

I can't find the comment or article now but do you remember where someone said Maura worked at an art gallery the Sunday before she disappeared?

ha ha Frosty you kill me. Thanks for the laughs

WTH-the-original wrote:

EVERYONE.
Be very careful because there are unscrupulous people here who will tell others in a public forum where you live and your name. I think we all knew this. This isn't right and those people should be held to account. The reason I write this is as a warning because there are some of those people here on this forum. They think that they outed me on another forum. If you poke around on these forums you will easily find who the perpetrators are.
I should point out, that the information they have placed out there in the public domain is bait. It's been there for years. It has nothing to do with me other than it is one layer in my onion protecting me from morons like this. But it is still the only ID I use on these forums.
While it actually tells no one anything about me, it should tell you volumes about the lowlifes that are involved. They were posting what they thought was personal information about me.
Do not come to this forum and interact with these people. They are sociopaths whose use of power on these forums must be absolute. If it is not, if they don't like what you say. If they think you are correct and can't actually debate you in the forum. They will not hesitate to try to drive you from the forum and they will use what amounts to terrorism to get people off.
Saying that, it is good to note that these aren't the sharpest pencils in the box. If you taken even minor precautions they will not be able to find out who you are. But remember, this isn't about they they think they did to me, it's about what they tried to do to me. The fact that they just weren't smart enough to do it, doesn't lessen the despicable nature of the act. This act has been threatened by this same group of people more than once. They have shown that they will try to act on it, even if they aren't smart enough to actually pull it off.
Interact with these people at your peril.
Bill

Warning Warning Poster Alert BOL for all posters posting to the west. fortget the posters to the east as that area has been cleared.

JWB wrote:

<quoted text> Rt 112 comes right up on you in a hurray so Maura must have been looking for it. It is very easy to buzz right by it and continuing on rt 302. You really need to make a conscious effort even if you know it;s there.

Agree. Even when you Google map it or Mapquest the route to Bartlett it always takes you via Rte 302 NOT 112.

How’s Yogi the local bear?

wow - I wish I could throw Bill a whole bag of peanuts and a straight jacket to go along with it.

JWB wrote:

ha ha Frosty you kill me. Thanks for the laughs

What can I say, I’m a glass half full kinda person.

It was only after I gleefully awarded myself several grey lightbulbs a while back, that I discovered they were generally reserved for dolts.

jldross wrote:

<quoted text>I can't find the comment or article now but do you remember where someone said Maura worked at an art gallery the Sunday before she disappeared?

I'm sure someone will be able to find a better reference but here's one:

"On the day she disappeared, Murray e-mailed the art gallery where she worked and her teachers to say she would be gone for a week to attend to a family emergency, Scarinza said." From Enterprise staff writer Elaine Allegrini.

A dozen or so good news articles here:
http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php...

JWB wrote:

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Warning Warning Poster Alert BOL for all posters posting to the west. fortget the posters to the east as that area has been cleared.

I prefer to think of it as watch out for any poster who claims that he will out your information in order to try and make you conform to their manner of thought to shut you up.

It won't work on me but, you have proven what you are capable of trying to do that, but have been shown to be woefully lacking in execution of your goal.

BUT, if we are going to play like that, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. DON'T YOU AGREE? Should I apply my talent for what I do for a living to see if I can out you? I am curious, do you really want to play whose d**k is bigger with me in this realm? I haven't tried yet because my ethics won't let me do this. BUT, no one has been stupid enough to actually try to do this to others, including me on any forum I have been on. But, you and a couple of others are clearly breaking new ground. You sure you want to play?

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I prefer to think of it as watch out for any poster who claims that he will out your information in order to try and make you conform to their manner of thought to shut you up.
It won't work on me but, you have proven what you are capable of trying to do that, but have been shown to be woefully lacking in execution of your goal.
BUT, if we are going to play like that, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. DON'T YOU AGREE? Should I apply my talent for what I do for a living to see if I can out you? I am curious, do you really want to play whose d**k is bigger with me in this realm? I haven't tried yet because my ethics won't let me do this. BUT, no one has been stupid enough to actually try to do this to others, including me on any forum I have been on. But, you and a couple of others are clearly breaking new ground. You sure you want to play?
Bill

wa wa wa what a wus you are. Grow a set
you reap what you sow big guy