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Ridiculous wrote:

I've been reading older posts here this morning. What a dynamic between some of you!
I have some questions concerning Beagle; What has become of him? Is he really the guy that posted those strange vids in Feb? Is it really his blog about being homeless and working at Walmart? He seems to have disappeared from cyber space completely.Does any have factual knowledge that he is all of these people?

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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You're still dancing around the questions and not giving a straight answer so I'll repeat it again.
***That's not at all what I asked.
Since the request for computer information was such a big turning point for you I just wondered if it was the same computer that sat in her sister's closet.Why were we told a cockamamy story about how they weren't familiar with computers so didn't get any information off of it before it was taken back? They had it for weeks/months?
If they didn't have knowledge of computers why didn't they take it to an expert?***

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You're still dancing around the questions and not giving a straight answer so I'll repeat it again.
***That's not at all what I asked.
Since the request for computer information was such a big turning point for you I just wondered if it was the same computer that sat in her sister's closet.Why were we told a cockamamy story about how they weren't familiar with computers so didn't get any information off of it before it was taken back? They had it for weeks/months?
If they didn't have knowledge of computers why didn't they take it to an expert?***

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mcsmom wrote:

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LE went to UMASS and proceeded to check her room and computer, UMASS IT was involved in that process. Scarinza went into the room with Billy found the controversial note. There was urgency obviously.
You need to familiarize yourself with this case, and I'm not trying to argue with you.

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Maruchan wrote:

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I am curious too about his disappearance from cyberspace. He may have just gotten too many people trying to find him and is scared to post any longer on these boards.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Thats not the question that I was asking. My question is what were they doing with the "information" that they were sitting on? Why let the PC stay in the closet when LE can work on it and maybe find something.
It is weird to me why the family of a missing person who aren't doing anything with a computer (which could be a bundle of information) or the belongings in a dorm room, or the car itself be so angry when LE asks to have these items back.
Then when these items are taken back from FM, he then sues for FOI. To me that gets my head scratching.
The sequence of events makes me personally believe that there is a chance the family thought MM would runaway, or knew the reason why she was running away, and they didn't want LE to have access to that information.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I will work harder in trying to familiarize myself with this case. I realize that you aren't being rude.
I just want you to realize that in my opinion Maura is the only ID disappeared case that I know about who ran away twice. Once from school and didn't tell anyone, and then from the car in NH.
They're many questions in my eyes that need to be answered that happened at UMASS. Was MM car really that bad? How come her friends don't recall any new car talk the weekend her father arrived? Wouldn't someone be excited to go car shopping? Why would he bring $4000 cash? Was the "new car" a cover for $4000 cash to be removed from a bank account? If her car was that bad then why would she drive it? And if she did drive it when it was that bad than her reason for fleeing UMASS most have been really important. These are just some of the questions that I would like answered. MM left UMASS and didn't say goodbye to anyone so why did she have to disappear from UMASS?
To me right now the bigger mystery is why did she leave UMASS in the first place?

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mcsmom wrote:

<quoted text>At this juncture however, he was entitled to whatever information they had garnered based on the FOI Act.

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mcsmom wrote:

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I agree with you, why did she leave UMASS?

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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This statement is not likely correct. Also you stated before that Fred won the case initially. That is not correct to my remembrance either. The court stated that the state couldn't just say that nothing was releasable because they said it was related to an active case. The state needed to go over it and determine what might be able to be released. Which they did, and released a small amount of items. Most is still not available, as far as I know.
At least that was what I remember. If someone has a different interpretation I'll listen.
Bill

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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This statement is not likely correct. Also you stated before that Fred won the case initially. That is not correct to my remembrance either. The court stated that the state couldn't just say that nothing was releasable because they said it was related to an active case. The state needed to go over it and determine what might be able to be released. Which they did, and released a small amount of items. Most is still not available, as far as I know.
At least that was what I remember. If someone has a different interpretation I'll listen.
Bill

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amy researches wrote:

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I agree. Remanding it back to superior court wasn't a win. It just forced the state to further explain, which they then did. That's why most of it is still under seal.
"Accordingly, because the respondents have not met their burden to justify withholding the requested documents, we remand the matter for a new hearing. On remand, if the respondents continue to resist disclosure, they must make a presentation that will allow the superior court to determine how disclosure of the requested information could interfere with an ongoing investigation or enforcement proceedings."
http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinion...

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mcsmom wrote:

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I didn't say he won the case, this is what I said below:
Eventually this was settled in court, initially in his favor.
Initially the burden was on the state, and some documents were eventually released.

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<quoted text>At this juncture however, he was entitled to whatever information they had garnered based on the FOI Act.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I was disputing both statements. I didn't consider that a favorable outcome but if you did, OK.
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This second statement confuses me a little more. He is still not entitled to anything new unless the State says releasing it won't harm the case. As long as they maintain it can harm the case, it doesn't need to be disclosed. At least that is how I interpret what the court said.
Bill

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mcsmom wrote:

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I didn't say he won the case, this is what I said below:
Eventually this was settled in court, initially in his favor.
Initially the burden was on the state, and some documents were eventually released.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Forget the court case for a second. What about the car? Doesn't it strike you the least bit odd that the vehicle that your daughter was last in, who might have picked up a hitch hiker or has been car jacked may have some clues, you surrender?
He gives up the car, but wants more information? He gives up the car, but wants the FBI? I'm starting to think that orginally people knew she was running away, and even new her destination, but once she didn't check in, then people became frantic.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Forget the court case for a second. What about the car? Doesn't it strike you the least bit odd that the vehicle that your daughter was last in, who might have picked up a hitch hiker or has been car jacked may have some clues, you surrender?
He gives up the car, but wants more information? He gives up the car, but wants the FBI? I'm starting to think that orginally people knew she was running away, and even new her destination, but once she didn't check in, then people became frantic.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I always find it hysterical that when someone who KNOWS something relevant and relays it to the group in a responsible fashion to try to educate. There is always one or two morons who don't write why they disagree, or admit they don't understand. Instead they throw out unlit bulbs and peanuts.
What morons. Anyone who would like to challenge Amy's expertise on this subject, try writing a response. I am sure you will do fine against her. Actually, I am thinking that she could probably be in a coma for three days and still out think the peanut throwers here.
Bill

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jldross wrote:

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He also said that why she left or where she was going didn't matter, to just find her. If you didn't know the answer of why she left or where she was going, then I think it would matter.