Maura Murray

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mcsmom wrote:

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I see it differently than you do.
I'd bring a slew of lawyers with me too if I thought LE had made the switcheroo from missing person case to a criminal investigation case for the sole purpose of keeping information from me.
Fred wanted more information from the git go. He was just a "pia" to them at that point. No big deal, he even met with Ayotte.
What seems to be a turning point (to me) is the July 12, 2004 letter to UMASS police from Fred requesting data from Maura's computer hard drive.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Is this the same comuter that the police had and gave to the family only to take it back again?
If I remember correctly the sister had the computer for awhile before it was taken back. I remember we were told some dumb story about how she was unfamiliar with computers so it sat in her closet with nobody even looking to see what information was on it.
Yeh, right. Is that the same computer mcsmom?

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mcsmom wrote:

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Fred requested all UMASS information and data pertaining to her case.

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mcsmom wrote:

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Fred requested all UMASS information and data pertaining to her case.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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That's not at all what I asked.
Since the request for computer information was such a big turning point for you I just wondered if it was the same computer that sat in her sister's closet.Why were we told a cockamamy story about how they weren't familiar with computers so didn't get any information off of it before it was taken back? They had it for weeks/months?
If they didn't have knowledge of computers why didn't they take it to an expert? I just can't believe that no one bothered to check the computer for information.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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That's not at all what I asked.
Since the request for computer information was such a big turning point for you I just wondered if it was the same computer that sat in her sister's closet.Why were we told a cockamamy story about how they weren't familiar with computers so didn't get any information off of it before it was taken back? They had it for weeks/months?
If they didn't have knowledge of computers why didn't they take it to an expert? I just can't believe that no one bothered to check the computer for information.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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WOWZER I'm glad your back. I never thought about the PC until now. What were they doing with her PC while they had it in their possesion. If they were doing nothing then why wouldn't you want LE to have the PC so that maybe they can find out any information.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Thanks Lighthouse.
I don't know what they were doing with it but I don't believe it sat in a closet and no one bothered to see what was on it.
I would think someone would have ran to the nearest computer store to ask them to help get the information off of it if they didn't know how to do it themselves. I never believed that story either. What intelligent young person has no knowledge of computers?
So many lies through the years but the big question is why is there a need to lie about so many things.

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mcsmom wrote:

What bugs me when I think about Maura's case, is why Scarinza clearly misleads Renner into publicizing that Fred failed to interact with LE for two years.
As WTH would say, that's pure BS.
See document number 18, section 31, which states on or about Feb. 24th 2005, Fred met with the respective agencies regarding his request of information from them ( his right under the FOI Act.) At which time respective agencies agreed to improve their communication with him.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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In my non professional opinion Sitting down and "speaking" is different than sitting down and being interrogated. Yes he could have sat down with LE and talked about the search, where they looked and if anything new developed.
The fact that he brought lawyers two years later shows the readers that this time there will be questions directed at him.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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When LE asked for the PC back and the dorm room, and car items where were they? Where they in a lab being looked at? Were the PI's investigating any leads off the items?

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mcsmom wrote:

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They asked for these items back in July, when LE called in Major Crimes( and thereby claiming a criminal case which protects them from releasing info) Coincidentally (or maybe not) at same time Fred sent a letter to UMASS requesting, and again I'll repeat for wowzer ALL information and computer data.
Just prior to that, NHSP made a trip to UMASS.
And up to this point LE had given Fred some of the documents he requested.( call logs )

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mcsmom wrote:

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They asked for these items back in July, when LE called in Major Crimes( and thereby claiming a criminal case which protects them from releasing info) Coincidentally (or maybe not) at same time Fred sent a letter to UMASS requesting, and again I'll repeat for wowzer ALL information and computer data.
Just prior to that, NHSP made a trip to UMASS.
And up to this point LE had given Fred some of the documents he requested.( call logs )

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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MCSMOM = I'm going out on a short limb by assuming that maybe you have a son or daughter. If they went missing and they had a personal PC that probably had internet searches, old emails and other useful information. You would let five months go by before doing anything? And after doing nothing you would get angry if your LE asked for the PC back so that they can look into it.

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mcsmom wrote:

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They asked for these items back in July, when LE called in Major Crimes( and thereby claiming a criminal case which protects them from releasing info) Coincidentally (or maybe not) at same time Fred sent a letter to UMASS requesting, and again I'll repeat for wowzer ALL information and computer data.
Just prior to that, NHSP made a trip to UMASS.
And up to this point LE had given Fred some of the documents he requested.( call logs )

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mcsmom wrote:

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UMASS IT department was one of the first in Maura's room at the time of her disappearance. I would bet her hard drive was sent to forensics, and given to NHSP. I would assume they shared this info with Fred, since NHSP gave him the computer back.
LE doesn't need the computer back" to look into it" they have everything they could ever want from it.
Why would they want it back in July?
There's only one answer to that question.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I don't know the answer I'm stuck in neutral as I have mentioned so maybe you can tell me the answer?
I didn't know UMASS IT department can check students computers. I doubt my college would have the authority to do that. Do you really think a college has the authority to do that, or are you making that information up to dodge a valid question (see below)? I'm not trying to fight with you, but when you make a statement like "UMASS IT department was one of the first in her room," it sounds like you are adding the urgency of the IT department to search her PC, when I don't even think they would be allowed to do it.
Lets pretend that UMASS didn't have the authority to look at MM computer. Would you find it weird that people are searching in the cold NH temps, when someone could be in a warm room searching her PC for clues that could probably be very benficial to her whereabouts or atleast state of mind?