Maura Murray

how can you take the squaw comment out of context?

Squaw-walk only means one thing.

Once again, I post another excerpt from an article done.

This is referencing the very first few days after maura went missing when the family and police had converged upon the area maura went missing and were searching for answers.

After being briefed by police, the very first thing Fred thought of was not boogey man and it was not runaway it was suicide as evidenced by what Maura's boyfriend's mom notes below. She was there for the searches as well.

When police assembled the Murray and Rausch families to brief them on the investigation, Maura's father "moaned and rubbed his head and said,�Oh, no,' " according to Sharon Rausch, the mother of Billy Rausch, Maura's then-boyfriend.

"I remember Fred said,�I always have told the kids when I got old and worthless I was going to climb my favorite mountain with a bottle of Jack Daniels and drink myself to death.' That was emotional. He thought what if there was something he didn't know about," Rausch said.

She said authorities thought the alcohol and Tylenol PM Maura brought may have been indications she was going to kill herself. "That's what people do, they drink, take a bunch of pills and die peacefully," she said.

JWB wrote:

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Since Renner added his documents section he eliminated the evidence section of his blog. I am finding the accident reports but I am not finding the Police logs and phone calls.Does Anyone see them or have
links to them?
Thanks

Found what I was looking for (records)under documents. The Tex vehicle was in the Agway parking lot and approached by H2 after Mauras Crash. No vehicle description given but oddly there is a plate number

Interesting FB page "Have you ever met Israel Keyes"? Shows map and timelines, which include Maura's location. They are looking for public assistance.

Apparently Keyes was associated with the Makah Tribe in WA. Their tribal emblem sort of looks like the window decal seen on the vehicle involved in the Cutshall/Allen murders in Renner, CA.

whiston wrote:

Where did Maura Murray vanish to.

Thought possibly you would be interested in an article, dated Aug. 4, 2012 entitled, "Suspected Serial Killer Owns Cabin in Constable" ( www.watertowndailytimes.com ). Constable is located near the Canadian border in Franklin County NY. The drive from Constable NY to Montgomery VT involves slightly over a 2-hour drive.

How disappointing. I go away on a trip and come back to, well nothing.
Where did everyone go? There used to be some interesting knowledgeable posters here and it looks like they have left the forum.
Guess I'll have to find another forum of interest cause this one has certainly gone to he*l.

Orko Kringer wrote:

She said authorities thought the alcohol and Tylenol PM Maura brought may have been indications she was going to kill herself. "That's what people do, they drink, take a bunch of pills and die peacefully," she said.

How or when was it established that she bought Tylenol PM, and the alcohol? Was the receipt found in the car?

aftermath wrote:

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Thought possibly you would be interested in an article, dated Aug. 4, 2012 entitled, "Suspected Serial Killer Owns Cabin in Constable" ( www.watertowndailytimes.com ). Constable is located near the Canadian border in Franklin County NY. The drive from Constable NY to Montgomery VT involves slightly over a 2-hour drive.

Anyone wonder where his name came from?
I found this below:

Keyes, Israel:
Additional military information: Private, Capt. John Maynard's co., Col. Job
Cushing's regt.; from 21 Aug to 23 Aug 1777; company marched to Hadley by
order of Col. Denney on alarm at Bennington; roll dated Shrewsbury; also,
Capt. Ingoldsbee's co., Col. Cushing's regt.; mustered 5 Jul 1779; for town
of Shrewsbury; also, Private, Capt. Thomas Fish's co., Col. Nathan Tyler's
regt.; from 8 Jul to 17 Dec 1779; at Rhode Island; roll sworn to at Newport.
Ref. MA01

With all respect MCSMOM, what relevance is information on a Israel Keyes that was in the revolutionary war?

JWB wrote:

With all respect MCSMOM, what relevance is information on a Israel Keyes that was in the revolutionary war?

Just interesting to see where he might have gotten his name.

I like history.

mcsmom wrote:

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Just interesting to see where he might have gotten his name.
I like history.

I don't belong to facebook MCSMOM and I looked at the maps etc of his timeline the best I could without signing into FB. Is there any information on that facebook page that puts him in the area in 2004?

Thanks

JWB, I looked at the page over the weekend and didn't see anything concrete to connect him to the area at that time. Maybe mcsmom or others caught something I missed. To me it looks like they are just saying this is an area he may have passed through, and they are looking for tips or info from anyone who could place him in the area at these times when people disappeared or were killed.

Thanks Amy, It certaintly will be interesting to follow this case to see if anything else comes out of it pertaining to other missing people.

It did appear to be pinpoits on the map for either Northern NH and Northern Vermont indicating that he had been there at some point in time but I didn't see anything on the written time line indicating exactly where and when..

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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How or when was it established that she bought Tylenol PM, and the alcohol? Was the receipt found in the car?

yes a receipt was found in the car.
that is where the whole debacle with James Renner came in when he noted that authorities had accounted for all of the alcohol maura had.(They did not physically gather up the alcohol, they accounted for it meaning they took notes on what was found at the car and what was found on the receipt that was in the car). Technically, the alcohol was all accounted for, not physically such.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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How or when was it established that she bought Tylenol PM, and the alcohol? Was the receipt found in the car?

Yes the receipt was found in the car.

This is where the whole James Renner debacle came about. He went and talked to law enforcement (recently) and asked about the alcohol and they told him that it was "All Accounted for". He turned around and posted on his blog that the police physcially have all of the bottles of alcohol that maura had on her at the time she disappeared.

In reality, all accounted for means that police took notes on what they found at the accident scene and what they saw on the receipt they collected inside maura's car. Technically, they could account for all of the alcohol. they didn't physically gather up alcohol bottles and put them in a filing cabinet somewhere.

Interesting that he ran marathons in Washington state. Quality Inn choice of hotel in Texas.

I found all the media coverage about Keyes very interesting. It was gratifying to read that VT/NH and FBI were joining forces and communicating.

mcsmom wrote:

Interesting that he ran marathons in Washington state. Quality Inn choice of hotel in Texas.

Also ever notice that construction workers and Army guys also seem to be suspects or persons involved in many cases. Example- The sniper in the DC area for one was an x army soldier. It goes on and on with ex army guys. Whats up with that WTH ? There are many more examples. Never hear of a a navy guy etc... Always seems like Army guys.. Just an observation.

Shack wrote:

I found all the media coverage about Keyes very interesting. It was gratifying to read that VT/NH and FBI were joining forces and communicating.

Totally agree Shack and for them to come right out and say that they are looking at this guy regarding the cass and Murray case says to me that they might have info that he was possibly in this area during those times. Why else would you suggest this guy from the west coast?