Maura Murray

GrampaMo wrote:

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Wasn't it you that pummeled a poster here with questions on what they could see from their window while trying to find out where they lived?
If I remember correctly you asked them so many times that they finally reported you
Citigirl is doing the right thing by protecting the identities of those that allowed her to search their land

I guess if you say pummeling a poster is asking if they saw the crash scene from there house after the poster has already posted that they lived in the crash scene area- yes I am guilty of asking a simple question. Get over it cry baby.

JWB wrote:

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I guess if you say pummeling a poster is asking if they saw the crash scene from there house after the poster has already posted that they lived in the crash scene area- yes I am guilty of asking a simple question. Get over it cry baby.

You didn't just ask a simple question. You asked over and over again until I even wondered what the hell was wrong with you.
I will repeat... citigirl is doing the the right thing.

GrampaMo wrote:

<quoted text> You didn't just ask a simple question. You asked over and over again until I even wondered what the hell was wrong with you.
I will repeat... citigirl is doing the the right thing.

I have been advised my my advisor to no longer speak with you.

Anyhow- The sandpit that was searched was also a construction business and the vicinity is fairly close to the crash site. They are involved were involved in making concrete piping etc. This is common knowledge and has been put out there by the investigators working for Fred but blame me for putting it out there if you will. I don't care whose properties were searched. Amy asked a simple question as to the search clips that were shown on the Montel show were located and it is treated like top secret information.

"Canine Teams To Search For Maura Murray

BY GARY E. LINDSLEY, Staff Writer
Wednesday October 4, 2006

Housing, gas cards, food and water are being sought for canine teams that will be searching for Maura Murray. Murray disappeared after a Feb. 9, 2004, car crash in Haverhill, N.H. About five or six canine teams will be searching a large area around the crash site Oct. 21-22, said John M. Healy of Warner, N.H. Warner and other volunteer investigators began working on Murray's disappearance in late 2005.

The canine teams will concentrate on a few sites, including several areas around French Pond Road. Healy said one of the areas the teams will search is a very large sand pit at the Morrill Construction site. "I could bury 3,000 bodies in there," he said."

JWB wrote:

Citigirl- I agree that just because an area was searched doesn't mean that the property owners had anything to do with mauras disappearance and I believe that most posters understand that as well.
It was common knowledge that sandpits were checked and I don't believe anyone was insinuating that anyone with that particular construction company was involved. People are just interested in the scope of the searches that were done.

JWB I understand where you are coming from. But like I said I will not personally post areas that have been searched on a public forum. I have given my info concerning search areas to the proper authorities investigating Mauras disappearance.

jwb wrote:

Anyhow- The sandpit that was searched was also a construction business and the vicinity is fairly close to the crash site. They are involved were involved in making concrete piping etc. This is common knowledge and has been put out there by the investigators working for Fred but blame me for putting it out there if you will. I don't care whose properties were searched. Amy asked a simple question as to the search clips that were shown on the Montel show were located and it is treated like top secret information.

The PIs were not working for Fred.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Citigirl,
I need your help. For the past three or four days there has been much talk about the Vassi hit and run. I have been arguing against it for those three days. One main point that could help end this hit and run talk is discussing personal character. It takes a certain type of person to hit someone and posibly leave them for dead. I can only argue about things that are known. I don't know Maura's character and I was hoping that a statement about her character would come from you. The fact that you read over and not respond to this accusations is troublesome. Finding out about the cc fraud was disappointing, and I would be sick to my stomache if MM went missing because of some botched runaway that left someone injured. This is just my humble opinion, but I'm sure others would be upset as well.

Lighthouse 101 Iam not here on a daily basis to read all postings.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>The PIs were not working for Fred.

From Maura Murray Missing:

"The team has gathered all of the media coverage for study as well as
topographical maps of the area and are in communication, regularly with the
family. They also hope to serve as an interface between the family and law
enforcement.

"There are many things that law enforcement does that they can not reveal, even
to the family", said NHLI President John Healy, "We will try to help the family
understand these things and the whole process, while letting them know this is still
being actively investigated by the volunteers as well as law"

JWB wrote:

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From Maura Murray Missing:
"The team has gathered all of the media coverage for study as well as
topographical maps of the area and are in communication, regularly with the
family. They also hope to serve as an interface between the family and law
enforcement.
"There are many things that law enforcement does that they can not reveal, even
to the family", said NHLI President John Healy, "We will try to help the family
understand these things and the whole process, while letting them know this is still
being actively investigated by the volunteers as well as law"

As I have previously stated the PIs were not working for Fred.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>As I have previously stated the PIs were not working for Fred.

Interesting statement.

Probably a distinction without a difference.

Bill

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>As I have previously stated the PIs were not working for Fred.

ok hair splitting

They were working to help the family and fred is part of the family.

Hi all,Jane Cracraft wrote an article for PI magazine the title of it is Pro Bono.take care philip

So what

Just for discussion purposes:

Here is a link that gives driving directions from the dorm maura was working at to the very spot that Petrit Vasi was found lying the road.

Most all of the news reporting speculating on whether or not maura could've been involved in the hit and run ... quickly discounted her involvement by noting that the hit and run took place miles away or that it took place across town, which as you can see is just plain wrong.

http://maps.google.com/maps...

whiston wrote:

Hi all,Jane Cracraft wrote an article for PI magazine the title of it is Pro Bono.take care philip

Here is a link to the article: https://docs.google.com/gview...

I guess what Whiston is saying without saying it is that the private investigator group headed by Healy volunteered their time to investigate this case, which is stated in the article. To say that they "worked for Fred" is a misstatement, and implies that Fred Murray hired them, which is not true. They no more work for the Murray family than NH law enforcement does. They are a free agent volunteering their time to this case. To state they "worked for Fred" paints a completely different picture and can lead to all kinds of assumptions.

You may call citigirl's statement splitting hairs, but I say she is eager to state only facts, which we see her do all the time here. She is really good about that and I am glad she sets the record state often.

As per the security monitor (maura's job title) handbook at UMASS

Shifts for security monitors are (and also were in 2004)

Sunday - Wed 8 p.m. to 12 a.m.
Thursday 8 p.m. to 2 a.m.
Fri - Sat 8 p.m. to 3 a.m.

Security monitors do get breaks each shift thursday through saturday. Maura was working the thursday night schedule when the vasi hit and run took place.

Vie phone recods, Maura called Rao's Coffee cafe at around 8:40 p.m. that thursday night. the call was three minutes long.

Maura attempted to call her boyfriend at both 9:09 p.m. and 9:55 p.m., but could not get a hold of him.

However, it appears he called her back one minute later at 9:56 p.m. and they talked for about six minutes.

Maura then talked to her older sister from 10:10 to 10:38 p.m.

And the only other two calls -- according to maura's cell records came later in the night.

From 12:07 a.m. to 12:14 a.m., maura was again talking to her boyfriend.

the hit and run victim petrit vasi was found at 12:20 a.m. laying in the snow.

Finally at 3:40 a.m., maura dialed dominos pizza and placed a order.(They closed at 4 a.m.)

I am not making any assumptions with this, just laying out the actual facts and leaving it open to debate.

Okay gummy shoes on backwards, many driving up down Vasi street. many people near Vasi street cry. Maura cry so hit Vasi? this thinking backwards. not way of good gummy shoe.

Maruchan wrote:

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Here is a link to the article: https://docs.google.com/gview...
I guess what Whiston is saying without saying it is that the private investigator group headed by Healy volunteered their time to investigate this case, which is stated in the article. To say that they "worked for Fred" is a misstatement, and implies that Fred Murray hired them, which is not true. They no more work for the Murray family than NH law enforcement does. They are a free agent volunteering their time to this case. To state they "worked for Fred" paints a completely different picture and can lead to all kinds of assumptions.
You may call citigirl's statement splitting hairs, but I say she is eager to state only facts, which we see her do all the time here. She is really good about that and I am glad she sets the record state often.

My understanding is a PI aka Private investigator offers services to an individual or family to investigate whereas a detective works for LE.
The (private) investigators where working or should I say helping whom? I am no way an expert in this area and welcome all feedback.

Orko Kringer wrote:

As per the security monitor (maura's job title) handbook at UMASS
Shifts for security monitors are (and also were in 2004)
Sunday - Wed 8 p.m. to 12 a.m.
Thursday 8 p.m. to 2 a.m.
Fri - Sat 8 p.m. to 3 a.m.
Security monitors do get breaks each shift thursday through saturday. Maura was working the thursday night schedule when the vasi hit and run took place.
Vie phone recods, Maura called Rao's Coffee cafe at around 8:40 p.m. that thursday night. the call was three minutes long.
Maura attempted to call her boyfriend at both 9:09 p.m. and 9:55 p.m., but could not get a hold of him.
However, it appears he called her back one minute later at 9:56 p.m. and they talked for about six minutes.
Maura then talked to her older sister from 10:10 to 10:38 p.m.
And the only other two calls -- according to maura's cell records came later in the night.
From 12:07 a.m. to 12:14 a.m., maura was again talking to her boyfriend.
the hit and run victim petrit vasi was found at 12:20 a.m. laying in the snow.
Finally at 3:40 a.m., maura dialed dominos pizza and placed a order.(They closed at 4 a.m.)
I am not making any assumptions with this, just laying out the actual facts and leaving it open to debate.

The coffee shop closes at 10pm so where does this come in if vasi was said to have been hit after 12am?