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Oh, and somebody puts Maura as leaving the campus between 3:30 and 4:30. Yet, places like wiki have this to say:

At about 4 pm, Maura e-mailed one of her work supervisors and some of her teachers to inform them that there had been a death in her family and that she would be out of town for several days, despite there being no such case of death. Maura packed all her belongings into boxes and removed the art from her room walls.[7] Soon after, at 3:30–4:30 pm, a dorm mate says they saw Maura leave the UMass Amherst campus. Maura withdrew $280 from an ATM, and was alone as seen by CCTV footage.[7] Her bank account was left nearly empty, with paychecks due from her job in the coming days. Maura then bought $35–$40 of alcohol, again while alone. Sometime after 4 pm, Maura left Amherst, probably heading up Interstate 91 north. She checked her cellphone messages at 4:37 pm.

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Her laptop that these emails were sent from was left in her dorm. When they say a "dorm mate" saw her leave campus, do they mean someone on the same floor type of thing, or was this person even credible in their sting. The main thing I notice is that Maura sent that email at 4, which places her in her room. Surely they have an exact time from the ATM and unless the liquor store receipt was off timewise, it should be clear enough as to what time that stuff was even purchased. Let's say it was done after 4. She drives the short distance, takes out the money asnd buys the booze. Police say there is enough food found in the car to last a few days. There are pajamas in the trunk and unless they just kinda stayed there all the time, something like a spare set might, why don't they just spell it out for us. Sorry, my main point is did she go back to her room and what time did she return the "scrubs"? The "scrubs" have ebeen referred to as a coat she borrowed once from a dorm mate on one of their clinicals where Maura finds herself forced to stay somewhere overnight due to bad weather. She hasn't got a warm enough coat, the dormate that she returned that to was made late in the day. I think it might matter to know this little detail too.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Alls forgiven but I sure hope you don't think I'm taking a "poke" at you with what I'm about to ask.
I'm really trying to understand something but it's confusing.
You said you were in FL in 08 and your daughter was kidnapped in Aug.08.
It took about 6 months for you to finally get her back which you did on your own with no help from any LE. 4 months to locate her and two months to get her back. And you were a civilian at the time. Starting from Aug 1st it would have been Jan of 09 when you finally got her back. How were you able to do this with a broken back?
Then you stated in post 2289 that you broke your back in 08 and it's still not 100%.
What I don't understand is why the VSP would hire an older man(not that your old) with a broken back that isn't 100%. And how could you possibly pass the physical that is hard even for a much younger man with no back problems?
I'm sure you can clear this up. Thanks.
I was in Florida from Aug 12, 2004 until Dec 25, 2009. My daughter was kidnapped and brought across state lines to NC on or about Aug 6, 2008 during her visitation with her birth mother. She then illegally vanished with her as I had custody. But I had no idea where she had taken her she has family in NY, NC, MA, and Sicily so I set a trap for her mother on MySpace and it worked. Once I did that I hired an attorney and then and only then did the courts help by issuing an order for her to return the child to the State of FL and to my physical custody or face jail time. I regained her permanently on March 12, 2009.

The back is not broken it was a herniated disc L-5, S-1, and a bulging disc L-4, L-5 in which I had surgery to repair the L-5, S-1, and I have always kept myself in shape so I am lucky enough that I heal rather quickly and have a high tolerance for pain. I workout regularly and have for years, by lifting weights and playing sports (mainly hockey), although they really didn't have many places to play hockey in FL. The physical itself to get into the SP here is not difficult, it's the physical training that is difficult. Currently I am doing dispatch at the 911 call center until training camp starts in April, then in August I will be out patrolling. I don't mind being called old I've been called a lot worse. I hope this answers your questions.

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You got to love those internet tough guys. Your all kinds of tough yet you cannot seem to protect your kids from the unspeakable evil that resides in Woodsville. Even as a member of VSP you cannot figure out how to help. If my kids or wife where in those kinds of difficulties, facing murders and death threats, nothing would stop me from getting them. But your a manly man, aren't you?
Also notice, that he has the need to have me give him an answer. He can't survive without an answer. He doesn't care if the answer is true. Just as long as it feeds his need he can live with any lie that fills the need. Regardless of who it might hurt.
Well see you in the funny papers. Please continue, I'll need my laughs for tomorrow.
Bill
All I can say is look at the pot calling the kettle black as always. You seem to be the one that keeps throwing out all the insults, before I even started posting on here I would come here and look at all the posts and sure enough you bounce from person to person belittling and calling them liars, only because you want to be the center of this forum. You don't care about MM all you care about is feeding your own ego so you can feel like big man on campus.

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WOW! Please let me know when you're coming this way again so I can stay in the house with my doors locked.
Holy crap you really should get some help for that nasty temper. Yikes!
No need to worry you are not an asshole on here and my guess would be not in the real world as well, in fact I bet you have more info than WTF, because of your location to Woodsville . As far as nasty temper, I just don't like that guy, he is just so full of himself, thinks he knows it all, and constantly bullying people on here. He's a joke, he bullies people on here constantly, my theory is as a child he was probably abused or picked on by his peers. So he thinks this makes him a man by thinking he has all the answers and assumes everyone else is lying on here. Is there a certain Trooper you had in mind for me to see when I come over there to let them know what I have been told? I don't know what good it will do but I guess any info even if it is hearsay is better than nothing at all.
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Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done in Earth, as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: for thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
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Bill 05478 wrote:
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Yes but you are such a great super sleuth, detective of the century, that you already have it all figured out. You must because no matter what other people say it seems as far as you're concerned it's only your opinion that matters, because you have it all figured out. Wow with all of your wealth of information you should go help the Cold Case Unit and solve this now, because like I said you have all the answers.
You might think it sucks to not be that smart, but he's doing you a favor and thinking for you. After all, you "misspeak" and "correct" yourself so often no one thinks you know what you are saying. Don't feel bad. At least Topix doesn't know what you write is useless. At least Topix thinks these forums amount to something.
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The new Woodsville zip code you gave Bill.
Thanks for the answer wowzer. That was a mistake on Bill's number. I'll try to get it right next time.
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Bill 05478 wrote:
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Wow you got all that in just 15 minutes of research? I do find that so amusing that you can tell just by looking at fb profiles that this person could not be involved. What do you expect the profile to read, "Hey over here I abducted and killed MM!"? If you can pick out who is not responsible maybe you'd be able to pick out who is, you should go back to fb and review all profiles from people in the general area and point out the killer to SPD. I hope you never sit on a jury, because making decisions without all the facts, as I was guilty of in the opposite direction, could cause a lot of problems for potentially guilty or innocent people. Remember my 4 sons and ex-wife have lived there since 1997, my sons know him, my oldest is married to his niece. They all say that he gets crazy once in a while, and by this I mean psychotic crazy. This is why his ex-wife along with his son have moved over here to St. Albans.
Lastly, if I recall Ted Bundy did not look or act like a killer either, but he was a brutal no mercy killer. If you saw him in public prior to his arrest you never would have suspected him to be a murderer he was a well groomed well educated man, but yet he killed.
Bill, it didnīt even take 15 minutes. You gave enough information including a not too common last name in a small town, and the fact that the family owns a local business. There were only three possible men, one of them having finished the local high school a certain year quite some time ago but still having the fb account of a 15 year old. You described a certain personality in your posts, and this one fits your description to a tee. Itīs called sleuthing, and some of us are pretty good at it. I admit I did wrong by naming him, but if you didnīt intend for the guy to be outed on a forum, then you shouldnīt have given information enough to identify him.
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hannah_b wrote:
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Bill, it didnīt even take 15 minutes. You gave enough information including a not too common last name in a small town, and the fact that the family owns a local business. There were only three possible men, one of them having finished the local high school a certain year quite some time ago but still having the fb account of a 15 year old. You described a certain personality in your posts, and this one fits your description to a tee. Itīs called sleuthing, and some of us are pretty good at it. I admit I did wrong by naming him, but if you didnīt intend for the guy to be outed on a forum, then you shouldnīt have given information enough to identify him.
Yeah fuckface.
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Bill 05478 wrote:
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No need to worry you are not an asshole on here and my guess would be not in the real world as well, in fact I bet you have more info than WTF, because of your location to Woodsville . As far as nasty temper, I just don't like that guy, he is just so full of himself, thinks he knows it all, and constantly bullying people on here. He's a joke, he bullies people on here constantly, my theory is as a child he was probably abused or picked on by his peers. So he thinks this makes him a man by thinking he has all the answers and assumes everyone else is lying on here. Is there a certain Trooper you had in mind for me to see when I come over there to let them know what I have been told? I don't know what good it will do but I guess any info even if it is hearsay is better than nothing at all.
well, less than 12 hours later, i have to say "bully" honors are being bestowed on WTF/Bill. in the "real world" it's ok not to have to couch one's opinions; to be direct is not to "bully"; to disagrees, even strongly, is not to "bully".
is name-calling "bullying"? perhaps.
and, somehow, to present oneself as a "victim" of bullying isn't consistent with the tough guy, "i'm gonna punch yer lights out" , manly-man sort of dude you've put forward here. it's whining.
just my opinion.
later.

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hannah_b wrote:
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Bill, it didnīt even take 15 minutes. You gave enough information including a not too common last name in a small town, and the fact that the family owns a local business. There were only three possible men, one of them having finished the local high school a certain year quite some time ago but still having the fb account of a 15 year old. You described a certain personality in your posts, and this one fits your description to a tee. Itīs called sleuthing, and some of us are pretty good at it. I admit I did wrong by naming him, but if you didnīt intend for the guy to be outed on a forum, then you shouldnīt have given information enough to identify him.
One there are 2 people in that town with that name. Not one of them is 15 years old and only one of them has a fb account. As a matter of fact one of the younger ones sons who also has the same name does not even live in Woodsville. As for his family owning a local business, they own several but you pick out the concrete company instead out of any of the others such as the gym over there. So I would have to say it was not sleuthing rather most of you who sit here behind the protection of your computer must know him, and by name calling and attacking anyone who may have information against him, you try to focus the attention elsewhere. This is not directed towards you solely hannah it is intended for every other moron on here that would rather just stick their opinion and not take into account any other option. Since I have been on here I have talked to a few of you and now myself have been considering other options based on what the others had to say.

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Shurlimplinzuralinkivich wrote:
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You might think it sucks to not be that smart, but he's doing you a favor and thinking for you. After all, you "misspeak" and "correct" yourself so often no one thinks you know what you are saying. Don't feel bad. At least Topix doesn't know what you write is useless. At least Topix thinks these forums amount to something.
It doesn't matter though just about everyone in Woodsville is related to one another, through inbreeding.

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Shurlimplinzuralinkivich wrote:
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Yeah fuckface.
Oh no not a tough guy sitting behind his computer calling names wow, that really hurt. NOT!!!!! Loser!!!
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rozShoem, seriously? Do you think that the search dogs that tracked her scent to that location they did, would track her scent to that location and then if her body was laying in a ditch where this hit and run happened, would really not find the body?
Do you really think that is likely or even remotely possible? Before you answer I know the tracker and her dog. I have worked with them and know them by reputation. Check on their track record and how they are thought of in the SAR community and let us know what you think.
Bill
Anything is possible and given the importance of finding Maura, I genuinely believe that every and anything is worth exploring. Also, I'm not questioning the ability of the tracker or her dog. What keeps coming back to me is that the search for Maura did not seriously take place for at least 2 to 2.5 days. I have no idea when the dog was brought in. However, in 2 to 2.5 days (or more...) there is a lot of carbon monoxide from passing vehicles along with falling snow, etc. Also...at corners/intersections....espec ially w/2.5' of snow and snowbanks...I know that snowplows usually work throughout the night and day...often winging back snow. There are 3 intersections on the road where I live and I know that I can hear the snowplow for long periods of time at the intersections, winging back snow. They make several passes winging back snow at intersections. Snowplows, at least those in this area, use diesel fuel. The "fragrance" of diesel fuel...especially if concentrated in a given area........makes it difficult to smell anything else. Also cars are stopping-taking off at intersections releasing more carbon monoxide, etc. Also, road salt may cause interference. Also, scent might stop at the point of impact (where vehicle hits a body....if the body soars several feet through the air and then lands quite some distance from the highway in a field or on top of, in back of a snowbank. This may be especially true when the air wreaks of diesel fuel which is more prominent at intersections for reasons mentioned above. I love dogs and own a beautiful Chesapeake. I've owned Dobermans and Labs and even one Dob/Lab mix. They are bright, gifted loving creatures. I know they are capable of great things including work. However, anything is worth trying especially when so much is at stake.

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well, less than 12 hours later, i have to say "bully" honors are being bestowed on WTF/Bill. in the "real world" it's ok not to have to couch one's opinions; to be direct is not to "bully"; to disagrees, even strongly, is not to "bully".
is name-calling "bullying"? perhaps.
and, somehow, to present oneself as a "victim" of bullying isn't consistent with the tough guy, "i'm gonna punch yer lights out" , manly-man sort of dude you've put forward here. it's whining.
just my opinion.
later.
Well it's great to have an opinion and that is what this is about here to be able to have an opinion and to keep an open mind, which between you and myself in our back and forths have looked at different options that could have played out and because of those convo's I looked at things differently and considered the other options. I have said several times on here but obviously most do not read everything posted just what they want to read, just like selective hearing, that I hope it is not that person because my sons know him, and my sons are also friends with his son. Hell I am even considering that it could be a total outsider of that community. I would definitely prefer that because I have family that lives there. I also used Ted Bundy as an example of how he did not look like a killer but he was one of the worst serial killers ever. Like him maybe this person also moves around, hell Ted Bundy killed from Washington state to Florida. The few people I talked to in Woodsville point their finger at this person as a viable candidate to have done something wrong in this case. They said it I just repeated it. All I wanted to do is possibly find someone on here who might be in that area that might know him to say what they have heard or didn't hear. There are several people that could have done this not just locals.I have kept an open mind, but certain people keep going back several posts ago instead of looking at what has been posted more recently. It's funny though to be called this and that, down right gut wrenching, but if I call anyone anything I'm a supposed internet tough guy. I respect everyone else's opinion and like looking at all the different scenarios that people present that could've happened, that is why I have kept an open mind to this. But some of these same people who proclaim they know everything, do not keep an open mind,maybe it is because they have been on here for so long and have heard it all and to them it feels like going in circles. But, remember there are other people here who have not heard all of the different scenarios yet. Like I said in a previous post, sometimes rehashing things other people may notice something or are able to add something that wasn't there before. I watched someone else get shot down and ridiculed for saying it could've been a hit and run. None of us know what happened for sure and probably never will, all we can go on is what we read or are told second hand (hearsay). WTF (Bill) seems to have all the answers though and if he doesn't like what you have to say, he then attacks with wise ass comments. At least with you you can actually have a discussion and present other what if's.

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Bill 05478 wrote:
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It doesn't matter though just about everyone in Woodsville is related to one another, through inbreeding.
I highly resent that Bill! I have children and good friends in the Woodsville area and they are NOT from inbreeding. How totally insulting.
From the day you started posting you are the one that was telling people that what they said was wrong. And then whenever someone that has been here from the very beginning corrected you, you starting with namecalling and insults.
If Woodsville is such a bad place with such bad people then you should protect your kids and get them out of there in any way possible ASAP.
You are a very nasty, rude and insulting person and if you are here to bash the people of this area, insult them and call them names then why don't you start a new thread so you can bash away.
You'll have a hard time hurting feelings here if that's what you're trying to do because we've been bashed by the best. You can never live up to her bashing. It's caused people hides to thicken as strong as a turtles shell and shoulders to grow much wider.
And if you think calling people inbreeds is going to help you get information you better think again.
I'm going to sit back now and watch this circus for some Sunday afternoon entertainment.
You go for it big boy and solve this case.
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Oh no not a tough guy sitting behind his computer calling names wow, that really hurt. NOT!!!!! Loser!!!
Fuckface.

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One there are 2 people in that town with that name. Not one of them is 15 years old and only one of them has a fb account. As a matter of fact one of the younger ones sons who also has the same name does not even live in Woodsville. As for his family owning a local business, they own several but you pick out the concrete company instead out of any of the others such as the gym over there. So I would have to say it was not sleuthing rather most of you who sit here behind the protection of your computer must know him, and by name calling and attacking anyone who may have information against him, you try to focus the attention elsewhere. This is not directed towards you solely hannah it is intended for every other moron on here that would rather just stick their opinion and not take into account any other option. Since I have been on here I have talked to a few of you and now myself have been considering other options based on what the others had to say.
It is also funny hannah that when I approached someone about this person of interest within seconds of sending an email to them they sent me back a copy of a background check that they ran years ago on both Jr and Sr., not the teenager who also shares the full name. Are you guilty of giving out his name? Yes. Am I guilty for giving out to much info? Yes most definitely. But everything I have read on here since Thursday aside from certain people attacking others on here, no just me. I have concluded that there is no way any of us could ever narrow this down to just one person, there are way to many scenarios that could have played out that night. Although she comes across strong at times I would say Snowy plays a big part in the fact that over the last 3 days I have considered other options, But WTF (Bill) is as evidenced here seems to be here just to antagonize and get people to see it his way and only his way. If you don't you are automatically considered a moron. JMO
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Well it's great to have an opinion and that is what this is about here to be able to have an opinion and to keep an open mind, which between you and myself in our back and forths have looked at different options that could have played out and because of those convo's I looked at things differently and considered the other options. I have said several times on here but obviously most do not read everything posted just what they want to read, just like selective hearing, that I hope it is not that person because my sons know him, and my sons are also friends with his son. Hell I am even considering that it could be a total outsider of that community. I would definitely prefer that because I have family that lives there. I also used Ted Bundy as an example of how he did not look like a killer but he was one of the worst serial killers ever. Like him maybe this person also moves around, hell Ted Bundy killed from Washington state to Florida. The few people I talked to in Woodsville point their finger at this person as a viable candidate to have done something wrong in this case. They said it I just repeated it. All I wanted to do is possibly find someone on here who might be in that area that might know him to say what they have heard or didn't hear. There are several people that could have done this not just locals.I have kept an open mind, but certain people keep going back several posts ago instead of looking at what has been posted more recently. It's funny though to be called this and that, down right gut wrenching, but if I call anyone anything I'm a supposed internet tough guy. I respect everyone else's opinion and like looking at all the different scenarios that people present that could've happened, that is why I have kept an open mind to this. But some of these same people who proclaim they know everything, do not keep an open mind,maybe it is because they have been on here for so long and have heard it all and to them it feels like going in circles. But, remember there are other people here who have not heard all of the different scenarios yet. Like I said in a previous post, sometimes rehashing things other people may notice something or are able to add something that wasn't there before. I watched someone else get shot down and ridiculed for saying it could've been a hit and run. None of us know what happened for sure and probably never will, all we can go on is what we read or are told second hand (hearsay). WTF (Bill) seems to have all the answers though and if he doesn't like what you have to say, he then attacks with wise ass comments. At least with you you can actually have a discussion and present other what if's.
Too much shit to read, fuckface.
So, I didn't read that shit.

Probably all misspeaks anyways.
Douchebag.
Stick your whiny crybaby bullshit up your ass.

I wish people would stop attacking me.

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I highly resent that Bill! I have children and good friends in the Woodsville area and they are NOT from inbreeding. How totally insulting.
From the day you started posting you are the one that was telling people that what they said was wrong. And then whenever someone that has been here from the very beginning corrected you, you starting with namecalling and insults.
If Woodsville is such a bad place with such bad people then you should protect your kids and get them out of there in any way possible ASAP.
You are a very nasty, rude and insulting person and if you are here to bash the people of this area, insult them and call them names then why don't you start a new thread so you can bash away.
You'll have a hard time hurting feelings here if that's what you're trying to do because we've been bashed by the best. You can never live up to her bashing. It's caused people hides to thicken as strong as a turtles shell and shoulders to grow much wider.
And if you think calling people inbreeds is going to help you get information you better think again.
I'm going to sit back now and watch this circus for some Sunday afternoon entertainment.
You go for it big boy and solve this case.
OHHH did I hurt your feelings? I really don't care you inbred bitch!!!! As for my sons like I said before one is out of there finally and the rest are working on leaving including my ex-wife. So watch the circus you dumb bitch because everyone on here is so one sided to the point that it seems you all are trying to hide something.

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