Maura Murray

Citigirl- Can I ask you an honest question?

Citigirl- I know I am not in your familys shoes, but I can only imagine the pain that is felt. I hope you know that JWB is here because he cares and I honestly think that 98% of us feel the same. I have been here two years the end of the month after my mom passed I jumped on the internet to try and make since of life, She passed Sept 26 2010 and I joined in 3 days later in conversation I believe.
So - that is why I am here and I have been pounded on that and got defensive and there is the answer.Not looking for sympathy bu understanding of who I am and Why I am here.

Family is all that matters in life- toss in some friends and life is good. Your intimate family is priceless and without them life is small. I can only imagine how i would react or the things I might say if my daughter went missing.Just sayin put the shoe on the other foot.

Thank you for the good judging -aug sept oct are hard for me lost everyone and it sucks, I joke and get honory but I have a big heart that aches for others. Yea I know- we all go through the same thing in our lives. I get that I really do

Damn- sorry all- sometimes you just have to vent and talk to others.

JWB I would guess the majority of the Topix posters just want to find justice for Maura and her family. It comes under the heading of sympathy and empathy.

And, hopefully, just to give you a smile..
you weren't "honery" ..it's spelled "ornery".

Hang in there...with the rest of us.

I will mention that there is very little to no altruism in this world. Most are here because it fills a need of some type. On whatever level they get enjoyment out of it. I can promise you that if you were attached to a shock buzzer, and every time you came to this site you were repeatedly shocked, most likely wouldn't be here.

While sympathy and empathy exist and are easy emotions to claim to have, and even actually have, altruism is in very short supply.

Bill

JWB wrote:

CitigirlI jumped on the internet to try and make since of life, She passed Sept 26 2010 and I joined in 3 days later in conversation I believe.

I understand what you mean. When we lose someone close to us it is so hard to understand and accept the finality. We google and look for answers. In death it is the first time we really understand the word "never" we will never be able to speak with our love ones again. You want to read or have someone tell you something to make you feel better you search for the answers to see if "never" is really never.

WTH-the-original wrote:

I will mention that there is very little to no altruism in this world. Most are here because it fills a need of some type. On whatever level they get enjoyment out of it. I can promise you that if you were attached to a shock buzzer, and every time you came to this site you were repeatedly shocked, most likely wouldn't be here.
While sympathy and empathy exist and are easy emotions to claim to have, and even actually have, altruism is in very short supply.
Bill

I got killed in class one day for making the statement "There is no such thing of a selfless act. An act may appear to us to be selfless, but to the person committing the act it is committed for selfish reasons."

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I got killed in class one day for making the statement "There is no such thing of a selfless act. An act may appear to us to be selfless, but to the person committing the act it is committed for selfish reasons."

Virtually 99.9% of the time, I believe this to be true. Doesn't mean that the person being helped isn't truly being helped. They may very well be, it just can't be chalked up to being altruistic. If doing the act alone, makes you feel good, then its not an altruistic act as far as I'm concerned. I am an EMT. Just because I get up at 4AM to help someone with explosive diarrhea who thinks they are dying (they aren't) doesn't mean I'm altruistic. I do it, because I get satisfaction and knowledge that I consider useful, for me and my family. If on the other hand I knew that in one years time, I had a 50% chance of contracting hepatitis (there isn't, if you protect yourself properly), I would not do this. What people often attribute to altruism, most often, isn't.

Bill

JWB wrote:

Citigirl- I know I am not in your familys shoes, but I can only imagine the pain that is felt. I hope you know that JWB is here because he cares and I honestly think that 98% of us feel the same. I have been here two years the end of the month after my mom passed I jumped on the internet to try and make since of life, She passed Sept 26 2010 and I joined in 3 days later in conversation I believe.
So - that is why I am here and I have been pounded on that and got defensive and there is the answer.Not looking for sympathy bu understanding of who I am and Why I am here.

I hear ya and I am very sorry for your loss. I've lost my dad but not my mom yet. Everyone reacts in their own way, and it's very easy to misjudge people. When my little brother passed in July it put some things into perspective for me. I have never been one to hold a grudge for long, but the past few months I have learned even more about how life is too short. I wish my last time I saw my brother had been different - that I had helped him more, that something I could have said would have made a difference. You never really know what's going on in someone else's head, even someone you are very close to, and sometimes there really is nothing you can do. That's the sad truth. But at least my family all got to gather around him in the hospital room and say goodbye before they took him off the life support. Families of missing people don't get to do that. You know my reasons for being drawn to this case, and I think you know that I do genuinely care. I also know there is probably nothing a group of strangers on the Internet can say or do for Maura or Maura's family, but I do sympathize and hope they get their answers someday. In the meantime, I do enjoy posting here with you guys and have learned a few things. I hope the next few months aren't too hard for you. There is one heart from me buried under the peanuts.:-)

tg bf almost def seen one car good chance saw both

coeur de lion wrote:

tg bf almost def seen one car good chance saw both

Do you know if they reported what they saw to LE?

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Healy was not at the Oct.2006 search. This house was searched because of what a NH resident had said. There were hits in this house. A couple of PIs told me the carpeting tested positive for blood. We tried to find out if DNA testing was done but never recieved an answer concerning whether or whether or not DNA testing was done. So it is unknown to me if DNA testing was done.

Did a lab test it? Was it even human blood?

Jenkins wrote:

Citi the info wasn't brought to le by the ci's?
I thought the neighbor overheard cw saying that and the neighbor told the pi's, the pi's then brought it to le.
The neighbor went directly to le with that?
Either way, it wasn't the cw himself who brought that info to le, they had to go ask him after someone else told then. That's weird right there, you would think that If you really remember that you saw a missing person running 5 miles down the road that would be something to bring to le ASAP. It just seems unbelievable that he would be telling other people before le.

LE had this info in April of 2004. PIs were not even involved in this case at that point. This is why the search took place on 112 near 116 possibly part of 116 was searched in June or July of 2004. Its been along time and I dont recall the exact dates.

JWB wrote:

Citigirl- Can I ask you an honest question?

Yes. What is your question JWB?

Thanks citi
LE must have taken his sighting at least somewhat seriously as evidenced by the fact that they did do a ground search in that area. That was LE, not the family, that conducted that search up by 116 correct?
I would think that even if they thought it was total bullshit they would still have to do a search up there or otherwise they would look pretty bad considering that sighting was made known to the public.
Citi do you have any idea how intense that ground search was? How many people were involved, were there dogs? I would be very interested to find out how intense that search was; that would be a fairly good indication of how seriously they took that sighting. I definitely don't recall hearing about any sort of large, intense search but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Another Q: do you happen to know about when the first pi's were brought in on this case? Do you know if they were brought in in the first year?
And what about the PI RC Stevens from Northampton that beagle was constantly saying asked him if he had killed her. Did he ever actually do any work on this or is that just another fantasy beagle dreamed up? Except for beagle's references to him I've never seen any other reference to him anywhere else. Doesn't mean they don't exist or he didn't do any work on the case, I've just never seen it. Obviously his involvement was never widely spoken about. Did he ever actually do anything on this case? Was he hired by the family? Do you know if he ever uncovered anything?

like it matters

JWB wrote:

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ah very interesting - I remember listening to Healy on Crimewire talk about another piece of info that they picked up on and they turned it into NHSP- so is there other info than the CW piece that they may be talking about? You say it wasn't the RF info right?

Hey that's a good point jwb; Healy definitely said that they found out info that they turned over to LE, I coulda swore it was the cw sighting but apparently I was wrong. I coulda swore it was info that someone was overheard saying too, maybe I'm mixing third up though.

I wonder what it was, he didn't make any references to it on crimewire? What is this crimewire thing youve been mentioning? Do you have a link?

coeur de lion wrote:

like it matters

I think it does matter. I am wondering how thoroughly the Amherst end of things was investigated.