Maura Murray

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

<quoted text>She is described as gettin things from her trunk and then sitting there on the side of the road with her door open leisurely smoking for a few minutes. Whether she was smoking or usIn her phone doesn't matter, point is she was leisurely sitting there with her door open. Who sits there leisurely doing anything when they're so scared of police they're about to walk miles into the woods to their death to avoid them?
Saying she was drunk is an ASSUMPTION straight up.
Saying she was trying to elude LE is an ASSUMPTION.
Your whole theory is based on assumptions and it is not even close to the simplest explanation.

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FrmLE wrote:

Wow, that was funny jwb. Did you spend alot of time on that crafty little post? I really liked how you used the tailpipe to ass metaphor, I'm sure no one else had thought of that, you win the witty prize.
Maybe instead jenkins should tell us how far up the tailpipe he believes the rag was? It is a fair question, if he is saying that he believes the rag was stuffed 'way up there', how far is that exactly?
Is that an unreasonable question to ask?

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JWB wrote:

Nothing personal just couldn't resist.

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Maruchan wrote:

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Your theory posted here, and in many other previous posts, presents as FACT that she was "leisurely" doing things. I have never, not once, read anything on this case that said that she was "leisurely" doing anything, or even hinted at her lollygagging. Since this is your theory, and you use the "leisurely" part to prove a point, please provide an exact quote where this was said.
From Renner's blog:
"One thing that has been re-reported with little verification over the years is the story by Faith Westman, who lived in the house across the street from where Maura's car came to rest on Wild Ammonoosuc Rd., in which she says she saw a man in Maura's car smoking a cigarette. That's not exactly right, she told me last week.
'I heard a crash and then I went to the window. I saw the car. There was a red light in the car, which I thought might be the light from the end of a cigarette,' says Westman.'But I never saw a man and the red light could have been anything. Maybe a cell phone light as she was trying to find a signal to call someone.'
She saw the woman in the car get out and walk around the vehicle as she called the accident in to local authorities--crashes on that curve in the wintertime are not unusual in themselves and she has to do this at least once every season.
John Marrotte is an old, earnest fellow who lives in a house on the North side of the street. Since the trees were bare at the time, he was able to see the car--and the woman--from the window of his kitchen.
'I saw her get out and walk around the car. When I looked out again, the police were there. She was gone. I don't know what happened. Only man who knows is up there.' he points to the sky."

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mcsmom wrote:

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...." and God bless Mommy and Daddy, and Wowzer the real one, for she art thou leads us to Old Peter's Road".....
And if you see Eric, tell him I said hello.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Just me I spoke with the orange peeling guy. This person stated that they saw the vehicle back up. They never stated from where the vehicle backed up from. I dont know if family was directed to the wrong area or if it was just a misunderstanding. I did not become involved in the search for Maura until March of 2004.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>They said they saw a clean rag in the tailpipe. This is my opinion if the rag was stuffed way in there it would not be clean. Responders never would have seen the rag if it was stuffed way in there. CS made fire move away from the vehicle and EMS was only there for minutes.The problem is you read it on Renners blog.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

Maruchan- there most certainly is a quote from FW where she uses the words leisurely and says a few minutes. I think she says three.
This has happened before; someone questioned the leisurely thing, like I made it up or some shit, and I had to go dig up the quote where she uses the word "leisurely"
She definitely uses that word. Originally she said she thought she saw a man "leisurely"smoking a cigarette with the door open.
It's actually very interesting in how FW's story has evolved over the years, highly interesting. It could be a case study in eye-witnesses and how stories change over time. Also in how unreliable eye witness testimony can be sometimes.
Originally her quotes in the articles were far different than they are today. Her quotes back then were unique, she said some very interesting things such as the man leisurely smoking a cigarette. She was saying See saw some things a little different than others. It's interesting how over the years her story has morphed into pretty much everything that has been said in the media, now she's saying pretty much what everybody else is saying. Very interesting.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Renners blog. Is false. Mauras vehicle did not come to rest across from the Ws house .

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

<quoted text>Who the hell is making anything up?

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And what's with smith getting on the ground and looking up her muffler to see the rag? Does anyone else not think that is an extremely odd move to make, especially withing your first few Minutes on scene. Is it possible he was looking for something that could potentially disable the car? Was he looking at the car, and knowing full well that there was a girl missing from the scene, did he look at the car and think sabatoge? I know it seems crazy but what othe reason is there to look up the muffler unless you think something might be in it?

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amy researches wrote:

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Turkeys trot west. Shine 101 lights east. MC with the EW on the DL. Cowbell.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

Just wondering. If someone writes a reply like this:
***Now is the oportunity to tell him how far is far when you cram a rag (or object) up his tailpipe.
Q: How far is far up FRMRLE tailpipe
Mulitple choice answers:
A) till he confesses he is not former LE
B) Till he says he really is WTH
C) Till he can tell you when you needed a passport to get into Canada
D) He admits they should have searched east***
And then says they had an instant visual of it does that make them a pervert?